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Re: This offseason 

Post#341 » by pickIBL » Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:10 pm

Melo's mistake was not realizing that denver and karl is as good as it gets.

Jeanne would be the must have. So unique, perfect guy to develop in the Gatorade league.

I believe if Hezonja can get out of Orlando he'll be just fine. Marks should try to pry him.

You gotta buy low.

But seriously guys... look up Kyle Hines. He's a freak of nature. As the vet assets get sent out he'd be a nice add from the red army team.

VERY broad shoulders and long arms.
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Post#342 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:11 pm

Melo was dogging it when I saw him versus the Nets last month at MSG. No thanks. We're fine.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#343 » by Prokorov » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:45 pm

pickIBL wrote:
Paradise wrote:
pickIBL wrote:Synder coached Milos in Europe. He's been linked to mainly the Spurs and Jazz. He's been clear that he will only play for a winner.

Deandre Kane is probably more realistic. Teo's teammate Kyle Hines is coming off his contract. He can play.

He wants to start and wants to get paid as well, though. If he were to sign with Utah under those circumstances that would likely mean George Hill becomes available and will walk. Either situation works for me.


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Teo may have made his interest clear causing the jazz to factor that in. Plus his age and injuries of course. Overpaying a little guard on the wrong side of 30 makes little sense for the jazz or nets. Patty Mills would make more sense.

Kane and Huertel would be my 2 cents.


patty mills changes nothing. give us another role playing backup on a team full of roll playing backups. hill would make us a playoff team.

look im all for being anti-hill cause of the money. but mills is not what we need
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Re: This offseason 

Post#344 » by reelsgm » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:46 pm

pickIBL wrote:Melo's mistake was not realizing that denver and karl is as good as it gets.

Jeanne would be the must have. So unique, perfect guy to develop in the Gatorade league.

I believe if Hezonja can get out of Orlando he'll be just fine. Marks should try to pry him.

You gotta buy low.

But seriously guys... look up Kyle Hines. He's a freak of nature. As the vet assets get sent out he'd be a nice add from the red army team.

VERY broad shoulders and long arms.

Jonathan Jeanne, 7'2" but looks 150lbs, a light breeze knocks him down. Take some getting-used-to having people refer to the D-League as the Gatorade league now.

What are your thoughts about how Sergio Rodriguez compares with Milos Teodosic?
Sergio and Milos have parallel careers winning the same awards, both 30yo & recognized as top Euro PGs.
Rumor is Sixers won't bring Sergio ($6.8M salary) back after a middling season where he lost starting job to TJ McConnell because of his inability to defend NBA starting guards.

Would paying $6M for 1yr of Sergio who already has NBA experience be a good alternative if Milos wants 3yr/$36million?
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Re: This offseason 

Post#345 » by jbeachboy » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:47 pm

sixers are letting sergio go because they want ben simmons to run point guard.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#346 » by reelsgm » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:07 pm

jbeachboy wrote:sixers are letting sergio go because they want ben simmons to run point guard.

Personally I don't believe it's in the Colangelo's DNA to give the keys to an untested rookie PG even one who was first pick overall.

TJ McConnell starts until at least ASB unless while working his minutes up - Simmons can somehow convince the Colangelos he wont muck things up.
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Post#347 » by Vae Victus » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:07 pm

Melo aint coming to the 20 win Nets and his attitude is literally the last thing Markinson would want on this team. Not to mention there might be some bad blood between Lin and Melo. The NYK restricted poison pill contract fiasco along with Melo's choice words on dissing Lin on the way out, is a massive violation of NBA player code.... you dont EVER talk about how overpaid other players are.

But in the hypothetical world of Melo waiving his NTC and coming to town in exchange for scraps (Booker, Hamilton, KJ, BOS 1st). Lets say he promises Markinson he'll never be a troublemaker and privately apologizes to Lin for his stupidity before. MOST importantly Lala is forcing him to stay in the NYC area cuz of the greater importance of her own career :D

And then BRK making a choice FA wing signing...

C - BroLo, Acy, WAS pick
PF- Melo, RHJ, 2nd round
SF- Levert, Harris, SKil
SG- Porter/Hill?, SKil, Whitehead
PG- Lin, Dimwid, Whitehead

Melo is too big and slow for SF so moving to smallball 4 makes the most sense at this point in his career. Team decides to go "all-in" and go for either Porter or Hill (prefer Porter, but Hill > KCP if a max slot must be spent).

This is without a doubt a playoff team. Defense is a bit spotty at the 4/5, but if Melo tries hard on D he should be servicable. LOTS of 3pt shooting 1-5 and the team offense would be utterly potent.

But yea, he's an **** no chance Marks would trade for him even if PJax was willing to accept dog crap and Melo was willing to waive his NTC just to get out of town. Too high of a chance he'd wreck team chemistry.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#348 » by FlipFlopShot » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:52 pm

Vae Victus wrote:Melo aint coming to the 20 win Nets and his attitude is literally the last thing Markinson would want on this team. Not to mention there might be some bad blood between Lin and Melo. The NYK restricted poison pill contract fiasco along with Melo's choice words on dissing Lin on the way out, is a massive violation of NBA player code.... you dont EVER talk about how overpaid other players are.

But in the hypothetical world of Melo waiving his NTC and coming to town in exchange for scraps (Booker, Hamilton, KJ, BOS 1st). Lets say he promises Markinson he'll never be a troublemaker and privately apologizes to Lin for his stupidity before. MOST importantly Lala is forcing him to stay in the NYC area cuz of the greater importance of her own career :D

And then BRK making a choice FA wing signing...

C - BroLo, Acy, WAS pick
PF- Melo, RHJ, 2nd round
SF- Levert, Harris, SKil
SG- Porter/Hill?, SKil, Whitehead
PG- Lin, Dimwid, Whitehead

Melo is too big and slow for SF so moving to smallball 4 makes the most sense at this point in his career. Team decides to go "all-in" and go for either Porter or Hill (prefer Porter, but Hill > KCP if a max slot must be spent).

This is without a doubt a playoff team. Defense is a bit spotty at the 4/5, but if Melo tries hard on D he should be servicable. LOTS of 3pt shooting 1-5 and the team offense would be utterly potent.

But yea, he's an **** no chance Marks would trade for him even if PJax was willing to accept dog crap and Melo was willing to waive his NTC just to get out of town. Too high of a chance he'd wreck team chemistry.


That isn't a spotty defense. It is nonexistent. We will have to move Lopez and I don't see that change making any difference. The biggest impact would be getting Porter and we already knew that.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#349 » by kamaze » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:06 am

pickIBL wrote:
Paradise wrote:
pickIBL wrote:Synder coached Milos in Europe. He's been linked to mainly the Spurs and Jazz. He's been clear that he will only play for a winner.

Deandre Kane is probably more realistic. Teo's teammate Kyle Hines is coming off his contract. He can play.

He wants to start and wants to get paid as well, though. If he were to sign with Utah under those circumstances that would likely mean George Hill becomes available and will walk. Either situation works for me.


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Teo may have made his interest clear causing the jazz to factor that in. Plus his age and injuries of course. Overpaying a little guard on the wrong side of 30 makes little sense for the jazz or nets. Patty Mills would make more sense.

Kane and Huertel would be my 2 cents.


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Post#350 » by hood30 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:06 am

reelsgm wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:sixers are letting sergio go because they want ben simmons to run point guard.

Personally I don't believe it's in the Colangelo's DNA to give the keys to an untested rookie PG even one who was first pick overall.

TJ McConnell starts until at least ASB unless while working his minutes up - Simmons can somehow convince the Colangelos he wont muck things up.


Simmon will be the PG when he comes back from injury since the coach Brown has already stated exactly that. He's a point forward and they sure didn't draft him #1 overall to come off the bench.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#351 » by pickIBL » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:07 am

Prokorov wrote:
pickIBL wrote:
Paradise wrote:He wants to start and wants to get paid as well, though. If he were to sign with Utah under those circumstances that would likely mean George Hill becomes available and will walk. Either situation works for me.


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Teo may have made his interest clear causing the jazz to factor that in. Plus his age and injuries of course. Overpaying a little guard on the wrong side of 30 makes little sense for the jazz or nets. Patty Mills would make more sense.

Kane and Huertel would be my 2 cents.


patty mills changes nothing. give us another role playing backup on a team full of roll playing backups. hill would make us a playoff team.

look im all for being anti-hill cause of the money. but mills is not what we need

even if hill stays healthy he isn't a first option nor will he take you to the playoffs.

Mills will be cheaper. If he was starting for the jazz you would value him more.
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Post#352 » by pickIBL » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:14 am

reelsgm wrote:
pickIBL wrote:Melo's mistake was not realizing that denver and karl is as good as it gets.

Jeanne would be the must have. So unique, perfect guy to develop in the Gatorade league.

I believe if Hezonja can get out of Orlando he'll be just fine. Marks should try to pry him.

You gotta buy low.

But seriously guys... look up Kyle Hines. He's a freak of nature. As the vet assets get sent out he'd be a nice add from the red army team.

VERY broad shoulders and long arms.

Jonathan Jeanne, 7'2" but looks 150lbs, a light breeze knocks him down. Take some getting-used-to having people refer to the D-League as the Gatorade league now.

What are your thoughts about how Sergio Rodriguez compares with Milos Teodosic?
Sergio and Milos have parallel careers winning the same awards, both 30yo & recognized as top Euro PGs.
Rumor is Sixers won't bring Sergio ($6.8M salary) back after a middling season where he lost starting job to TJ McConnell because of his inability to defend NBA starting guards.

Would paying $6M for 1yr of Sergio who already has NBA experience be a good alternative if Milos wants 3yr/$36million?

I already pointed out plenty of skinny nba players of the past who developed in another thread. If Jeanne is committed he's a high ceiling guy. After the gobert miss he wont slide.

Milos is the most dynamic playmaker on the planet. He's also a party animal, drinker, smoker, womanizer who will get his money and a chance to contend. If Milos will come for 3/36 I'd pay the man. If you can pluck the rights to tomic I'd give him close to that too. If the talent will come... pay up.
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Post#353 » by kamaze » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:14 am

pickIBL wrote:Melo's mistake was not realizing that denver and karl is as good as it gets.

Jeanne would be the must have. So unique, perfect guy to develop in the Gatorade league.

I believe if Hezonja can get out of Orlando he'll be just fine. Marks should try to pry him.

You gotta buy low.

But seriously guys... look up Kyle Hines. He's a freak of nature. As the vet assets get sent out he'd be a nice add from the red army team.

VERY broad shoulders and long arms.




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Re: This offseason 

Post#354 » by kamaze » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:32 am

pickIBL wrote:
reelsgm wrote:
pickIBL wrote:Melo's mistake was not realizing that denver and karl is as good as it gets.

Jeanne would be the must have. So unique, perfect guy to develop in the Gatorade league.

I believe if Hezonja can get out of Orlando he'll be just fine. Marks should try to pry him.

You gotta buy low.

But seriously guys... look up Kyle Hines. He's a freak of nature. As the vet assets get sent out he'd be a nice add from the red army team.

VERY broad shoulders and long arms.

Jonathan Jeanne, 7'2" but looks 150lbs, a light breeze knocks him down. Take some getting-used-to having people refer to the D-League as the Gatorade league now.

What are your thoughts about how Sergio Rodriguez compares with Milos Teodosic?
Sergio and Milos have parallel careers winning the same awards, both 30yo & recognized as top Euro PGs.
Rumor is Sixers won't bring Sergio ($6.8M salary) back after a middling season where he lost starting job to TJ McConnell because of his inability to defend NBA starting guards.

Would paying $6M for 1yr of Sergio who already has NBA experience be a good alternative if Milos wants 3yr/$36million?

I already pointed out plenty of skinny nba players of the past who developed in another thread. If Jeanne is committed he's a high ceiling guy. After the gobert miss he wont slide.

Milos is the most dynamic playmaker on the planet. He's also a party animal, drinker, smoker, womanizer who will get his money and a chance to contend. If Milos will come for 3/36 I'd pay the man. If you can pluck the rights to tomic I'd give him close to that too. If the talent will come... pay up.




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Post#355 » by Curns13 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:33 am

Prokorov wrote:
pickIBL wrote:
Paradise wrote:He wants to start and wants to get paid as well, though. If he were to sign with Utah under those circumstances that would likely mean George Hill becomes available and will walk. Either situation works for me.


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Teo may have made his interest clear causing the jazz to factor that in. Plus his age and injuries of course. Overpaying a little guard on the wrong side of 30 makes little sense for the jazz or nets. Patty Mills would make more sense.

Kane and Huertel would be my 2 cents.


patty mills changes nothing. give us another role playing backup on a team full of roll playing backups. hill would make us a playoff team.

look im all for being anti-hill cause of the money. but mills is not what we need

Mills would immediately be our best bench guy and could start when needed. If we dont get Porter or Hill, he'd be a great consolation prize.
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Post#356 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:42 am

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Global Game wrote:In terms of player production and team marketing, two years of Carmelo Anthony is a great return on investment.

Trade: Booker, Kilpatrick, Hamilton, McDaniels, and Goodwin for Carmelo Anthony
Trade: Dinwiddie and Harris for Alexis Ajinca

Draft: Sindarius Thornwell
Draft: PF/C

Sign: Thomas Heurtel, Anthony Randolph, and Nicolo Melli (or Derrick Brown)

Lin/Heurtel/Whitehead
Levert/Thornwell
Anthony/Jefferson/Acy
Randolph/Melli/Nicholson
Lopez/Ajinca/PF-C


Didn't Anthony Randolph sign an extension with Real Madrid? I've liked how he's developed so far in Euroleague, but I'm still not sure if he's an NBA starter.

I'm kind of wary on Melo too. That kind of kills the Nets' ability to sign young players, which they seem to be focusing on lately.


Randolph has until June to reach a deal with a NBA team.
His rim protection, 3 point shooting, length, and athleticism are all upgrades at the position for the team.
(Last three years 3 pt % - 39%, 34%, 38%)
He upgrades the position for 3 years on great contract.

Caldwell Pope and Otto Porter are no more worth developing than Jefferson, Thornwell, Whitehead, and Levert. The latter are far less expensive.

Pope and Porter won't produce better numbers than Carmelo. Melo's deal is 2 years.

I'd say a big hell no to Melo, but Anthony Magic Randolph is intriguing.
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Post#357 » by kamaze » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:51 am

How about JayMychal Green from Memphis? he's a free agent. They're playing the Spurs right now.
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Post#358 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:54 am

Curns13 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
pickIBL wrote:Teo may have made his interest clear causing the jazz to factor that in. Plus his age and injuries of course. Overpaying a little guard on the wrong side of 30 makes little sense for the jazz or nets. Patty Mills would make more sense.

Kane and Huertel would be my 2 cents.


patty mills changes nothing. give us another role playing backup on a team full of roll playing backups. hill would make us a playoff team.

look im all for being anti-hill cause of the money. but mills is not what we need

Mills would immediately be our best bench guy and could start when needed. If we dont get Porter or Hill, he'd be a great consolation prize.

I don't dislike Mills, but I don't love him and more importantly I am not a fan of 2 point guard sets, especially as starters and especially someone as short/small as Mills.

Hill is a combo guard and a legitimate starter, along with, more importantly, a long and strong defender fully capable of defending other starter if not star guards, either 1's or 2's. I don't love him either but he makes a lot more sense from a purely basketball standpoint even though he'll cost a fortune compared to who he actually is and his age.
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Post#359 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:00 am

kamaze wrote:How about JayMychal Green from Memphis? he's a free agent. They're playing the Spurs right now.

He'd be a nice secondary signing, or guy we go after if we miss out on our initial targets.
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Post#360 » by pickIBL » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:05 am

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Curns13 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
patty mills changes nothing. give us another role playing backup on a team full of roll playing backups. hill would make us a playoff team.

look im all for being anti-hill cause of the money. but mills is not what we need

Mills would immediately be our best bench guy and could start when needed. If we dont get Porter or Hill, he'd be a great consolation prize.

I don't dislike Mills, but I don't love him and more importantly I am not a fan of 2 point guard sets, especially as starters and especially someone as short/small as Mills.

Hill is a combo guard and a legitimate starter, along with, more importantly, a long and strong defender fully capable of defending other starter if not star guards, either 1's or 2's. I don't love him either but he makes a lot more sense from a purely basketball standpoint even though he'll cost a fortune compared to who he actually is and his age.
just wait til the back end of that max overpay. Instead of using the space to make up for the celtics trade to get back assets you got a contract you are stuck with
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