2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion

[Pillendreher]

It's really hard to take ANYTHING the Lakers did as normative this season. It was obvious they were basically doing everything they could to lose (minus last couple games) to ensure best possible chance at draft picks.

I think as a 6th man (where defense really doesn't matter near as much) Clarkson could really succeed.

That's mostly his role now. And it's 15 ppg on bad efficiency with no defense. He ranks a few spots over Cam Payne in RPM, for an extra 10 mil a year, if that were the case I'd just keep Semaj.

With the emergence of Delon Wright and the impending FA of Ibaka and Lowry, I think Joseph would be available

He's not cheap either tho.

[spearsy23]

That's mostly his role now. And it's 15 ppg on bad efficiency with no defense. He ranks a few spots over Cam Payne in RPM, for an extra 10 mil a year, if that were the case I'd just keep Semaj.

With the emergence of Delon Wright and the impending FA of Ibaka and Lowry, I think Joseph would be available

He's not cheap either tho.

7-8 mill is pretty cheap for a 20-25 mpg player today. He would probably get 10+ on the open market.

[bondom34]

With the emergence of Delon Wright and the impending FA of Ibaka and Lowry, I think Joseph would be available

He's not cheap either tho.

7-8 mill is pretty cheap for a 20-25 mpg player today. He would probably get 10+ on the open market.

Yeah I like him as a target if they can move Kanter, it cuts salary overall if they do both.

[Pillendreher]

With the emergence of Delon Wright and the impending FA of Ibaka and Lowry, I think Joseph would be available

He's not cheap either tho.

7-8 mill is pretty cheap for a 20-25 mpg player today. He would probably get 10+ on the open market.

I thought he gets like 12 million. 7-8 is certainly better.

[Dn4sty]

He's not cheap either tho.

7-8 mill is pretty cheap for a 20-25 mpg player today. He would probably get 10+ on the open market.

Yeah I like him as a target if they can move Kanter, it cuts salary overall if they do both.

It won't cut salary enough to bring them below the cap, so you basically need to make sure you can squeeze everything you can get out of a Kanter trade as you will never really get the chance to spend the supposed 10 million you would save

[spearsy23]

7-8 mill is pretty cheap for a 20-25 mpg player today. He would probably get 10+ on the open market.

Yeah I like him as a target if they can move Kanter, it cuts salary overall if they do both.

It won't cut salary enough to bring them below the cap, so you basically need to make sure you can squeeze everything you can get out of a Kanter trade as you will never really get the chance to spend the supposed 10 million you would save

You'd be looking at a three way trade where team A gets enes, we get Joseph, and Toronto gets cap space.

[Dn4sty]

Yeah I like him as a target if they can move Kanter, it cuts salary overall if they do both.

It won't cut salary enough to bring them below the cap, so you basically need to make sure you can squeeze everything you can get out of a Kanter trade as you will never really get the chance to spend the supposed 10 million you would save

You'd be looking at a three way trade where team A gets enes, we get Joseph, and Toronto gets cap space.

Nets get Kanter and a second round pick(s)
Thunder get Toronto 1st, Cory Joseph and Norman Powell
Toronto gets Jerami Grant and Thunder 1st

[bondom34]

It won't cut salary enough to bring them below the cap, so you basically need to make sure you can squeeze everything you can get out of a Kanter trade as you will never really get the chance to spend the supposed 10 million you would save

You'd be looking at a three way trade where team A gets enes, we get Joseph, and Toronto gets cap space.

Nets get Kanter and a second round pick(s)
Thunder get Toronto 1st, Cory Joseph and Norman Powell
Toronto gets Jerami Grant and Thunder 1st

That's way too much for OKC, and Brooklyn has Lopez. Don't need Kanter.

[Dn4sty]

You'd be looking at a three way trade where team A gets enes, we get Joseph, and Toronto gets cap space.

Nets get Kanter and a second round pick(s)
Thunder get Toronto 1st, Cory Joseph and Norman Powell
Toronto gets Jerami Grant and Thunder 1st

That's way too much for OKC, and Brooklyn has Lopez. Don't need Kanter.

Too much for OKC to pay? Acquire? The draft pick swap would only move OKC down 2 spots.

Also Lopez could easily be dealt this summer.

[Funcrusher]

Yeah, so..... Oladipo and Kanter (and eventually Adams) have to go. I know it's one game, but this boils down to just incompatible personnel and **** coaching. It probably won't be this bad for the rest of the series (who knows, with Billy, anything is possible when he puts his mind to it) but these are not 2nd, 3rd options on a contending team.

Gotta try to trade DMD, DMS, Singler and some draft picks to tanking teams that have young talent and are looking to even out their roster. Philly and Brooklyn are two that come to mind. See if you can get a package that include any of RoCo, one of the backup pg's, and a solid backup C like Richaun Holmes. Maybe go for SK in Brooklyn.

Like others have said, I know our chances at trading for premier players and, in particular, signing free agents isn't great, but, as much as we might want to forget after this game, Kanter and Oladipo are valuable pieces, and on the right team they can be productive. Honestly, I don't think reconstructing the roster is a question of what is possible but whether Presti is truly willing to dismantle this team.

[bondom34]

Nets get Kanter and a second round pick(s)
Thunder get Toronto 1st, Cory Joseph and Norman Powell
Toronto gets Jerami Grant and Thunder 1st

That's way too much for OKC, and Brooklyn has Lopez. Don't need Kanter.

Too much for OKC to pay? Acquire? The draft pick swap would only move OKC down 2 spots.

Also Lopez could easily be dealt this summer.

Too much to acquire. And no real reason for Brooklyn to downgrade.

[spearsy23]

I'd call Orlando and see if they would add anything to make a Vuc/Adams deal work. He proved he can be a positive defensive player this year and his ability in the pick and pop would give us some extra space. If we could get him and another rotation caliber piece I'd call it a big win.

[bondom34]

As insane as it is I kinda like seeing if the Cavs would do something around Love for Adams plus whatever else.

[spearsy23]

As insane as it is I kinda like seeing if the Cavs would do something around Love for Adams plus whatever else.

No lie, as bad as it should make me feel, I'd be legit excited if we were starting Russ/Robes/3-point-shooter/Love/Enes next year. That team would score at will. Also, love would get post touches again.

[bondom34]

As insane as it is I kinda like seeing if the Cavs would do something around Love for Adams plus whatever else.

No lie, as bad as it should make me feel, I'd be legit excited if we were starting Russ/Robes/3-point-shooter/Love/Enes next year. That team would score at will. Also, love would get post touches again.

They'd give up 130 a night but be fun to watch. And we know Russ/Love is a duo that get along. I've been tempted to post it on the trade board but know it's a bit of a homer deal.

[spearsy23]

List of realistic players to target
Joe Ingles
Tyler Johnson
Will Barton
Jared Dudley
Khris Middleton [maybe not realistic, but I'd see about Adams]
Pat Connoughton
All of those guys hit 37% or higher from three and have an assist% above 12 and are legit wing sized.

As secondary playmakers with wing size who at least are a threat from the three point line there are
Tyreke Evans
Nicolas Batum
Danilo Gallinari
Then, guys who are good defenders and will hit an open 3
Thabo Sefalosha (bring Thabo home!)
Wes Matthews
Robert Covington
Pj Tucker


If we could get one guy out of each category without moving Russ/dipo/robes/Steven then I think we could be a great team. If we could get two then I think we could be on par with Utah/LA, and I think it's a realistic goal.

[kdthunderup]

Everyone is being too harsh on Adams, he is way better than this, it has to be an injury or something. We all know he is a beast, wait until next season before we even think about trading him.

Oladipo is tradeable but only if the right move comes along, I would also wait on him a bit since I think his value can go up some more.

Kanter for me is the guy we should be pressuring to trade, can't have a guy with his contract being unplayable half the time.

[kdthunderup]

List of realistic players to target
Joe Ingles
Tyler Johnson
Will Barton
Jared Dudley
Khris Middleton [maybe not realistic, but I'd see about Adams]
Pat Connoughton
All of those guys hit 37% or higher from three and have an assist% above 12 and are legit wing sized.

As secondary playmakers with wing size who at least are a threat from the three point line there are
Tyreke Evans
Nicolas Batum
Danilo Gallinari
Then, guys who are good defenders and will hit an open 3
Thabo Sefalosha (bring Thabo home!)
Wes Matthews
Robert Covington
Pj Tucker


If we could get one guy out of each category without moving Russ/dipo/robes/Steven then I think we could be a great team. If we could get two then I think we could be on par with Utah/LA, and I think it's a realistic goal.

I'd love to get Covington, underrated player on an amazing contract. Maybe we can package the rookie we draft this year with Abrines potentially? 76ers might be looking to move him with Simmons and Saric probably taking up a huge chunk of the forward minutes next season.

Another move I'd look into would be going after Ilyasova in the free agency, I think it was a mistake trading him and would fit in well with our starting lineup. Sabonis is still a couple of seasons away from being a starter imo and Gibson doesn't fit our needs for what we need in a 4.

Westbrook
Oladipo
Covington
Ilyasova
Adams

I think that lineup is much more balanced then what we currently have and is somewhat achievable/realistic.

[Pillendreher]

Everyone is being too harsh on Adams, he is way better than this, it has to be an injury or something. We all know he is a beast, wait until next season before we even think about trading him.

He hasn't been a good player for 3 months. And many mistakes are mental, not physical.

[Funcrusher]

spearsy23 wrote:
List of realistic players to target
Joe Ingles
Tyler Johnson
Will Barton
Jared Dudley
Khris Middleton [maybe not realistic, but I'd see about Adams]
Pat Connoughton
All of those guys hit 37% or higher from three and have an assist% above 12 and are legit wing sized.

As secondary playmakers with wing size who at least are a threat from the three point line there are
Tyreke Evans
Nicolas Batum
Danilo Gallinari
Then, guys who are good defenders and will hit an open 3
Thabo Sefalosha (bring Thabo home!)
Wes Matthews
Robert Covington
Pj Tucker

kdthunderup wrote:
I'd love to get Covington, underrated player on an amazing contract. Maybe we can package the rookie we draft this year with Abrines potentially? 76ers might be looking to move him with Simmons and Saric probably taking up a huge chunk of the forward minutes next season.

I really don't think they should move Abrines. He's not ready to be a starter yet and last night was last night but he's got potential to be a solid 3rd, 4th option scorer that at the very least doesn't kill you on the defensive end. If you try to move him and Oladipo, it'll be hard to make up for the production lost at a position we're already thin at. Also, Abrines is not enough of an impact player right now to make me think Philly would except an offer like that considering they're already loaded at the 2.