Around the league 2016-2017

[Kobblehead]

The passion, drive and professional mentality doesn't seem to be there with Wood.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I was gonna make a joke about if people think Isaiah Thomas is a star, he's more of a brown dwarf

Don't do this. Don't.

My goodness, man, it's a perfectly fine analogy, it just happens to "come off" in such a way to people who don't know anything about astronomy or astrophysics. I've studied both for years, and if you're using the term "star" the term I used is merely a star that has not ignited to fully become a true star. Implying that Isaiah Thomas is not a real NBA star, but falls short of one.

You can look up what the term means if you want, it's pure coincidence.

People are so uptight, man.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Cavs go up 2-0, but man does their defense suck. I wonder how many years of true contention that team has left. The Sixers may rise to the top at the perfect time.

[shawn_hemp]

I was gonna make a joke about if people think Isaiah Thomas is a star, he's more of a brown dwarf

Don't do this. Don't.

My goodness, man, it's a perfectly fine analogy, it just happens to "come off" in such a way to people who don't know anything about astronomy or astrophysics. I've studied both for years, and if you're using the term "star" the term I used is merely a star that has not ignited to fully become a true star. Implying that Isaiah Thomas is not a real NBA star, but falls short of one.

You can look up what the term means if you want, it's pure coincidence.

People are so uptight, man.

Lol I got it

But it is 2017...

[76ciology]

Cavs go up 2-0, but man does their defense suck. I wonder how many years of true contention that team has left. The Sixers may rise to the top at the perfect time.

Cavs don't need to play defense against the Pacers. Playing only on one side of the court allows them to pace themselves for the entire play-off run.

Game nowadays is measured by how much offensive firepower you got. Defense is just secondary, an extra gear to pull away or to raise your game higher.

[76ciology]

Rox trying to beat the Warriors by the power of 3s to match up their starting unit and a strong 2nd unit to have an edge.

Spurs? They'll switch every screens, slow down the game and have reliable bigs like LMA and Pau when it gets into a heavy iso game. Off the bench, I expect Pau to step up and try to get them the edge.

[76ciology]

Watching the Celtics you get the impression of how much you need a top player in the league. They look like a 1st-2nd round team despite having the first seed. And the league will do it's magic to make sure they won't get into the finals.

[LloydFree]

Watching the Celtics you get the impression of how much you need a top player in the league. They look like a 1st-2nd round team despite having the first seed. And the league will do it's magic to make sure they won't get into the finals.

It's not the league's fault they start a Center who doesn't rebound and a 5'8 shooting guard.

[XtremeDunkz]

Cavs go up 2-0, but man does their defense suck. I wonder how many years of true contention that team has left. The Sixers may rise to the top at the perfect time.

Cavs don't need to play defense against the Pacers. Playing only on one side of the court allows them to pace themselves for the entire play-off run.

Game nowadays is measured by how much offensive firepower you got. Defense is just secondary, an extra gear to pull away or to raise your game higher.

Lebrons played 42 minutes in both games so far and they have barely won both. That is not what Cleveland wants. If Indiana can grab a game at home and make this go 5 at least that is a good sign for Milwaukee or Toronto.

[shawn_hemp]

I remember throwing shade at the Celtics earlier in the season about how their core group leaves a lot to be desired and how that muddled up their draft strategy that fell into their laps and they all just said I was salty that the Sixers tanked for 3 seasons while they were competitive enough and still got good assets

Now they will probably be reactionary and trade Jae Crowder or Avery Bradley and wind up going nowhere with IT

[Sixerscan]

Cavs go up 2-0, but man does their defense suck. I wonder how many years of true contention that team has left. The Sixers may rise to the top at the perfect time.

Cavs don't need to play defense against the Pacers. Playing only on one side of the court allows them to pace themselves for the entire play-off run.

Game nowadays is measured by how much offensive firepower you got. Defense is just secondary, an extra gear to pull away or to raise your game higher.

Lebrons played 42 minutes in both games so far and they have barely won both. That is not what Cleveland wants. If Indiana can grab a game at home and make this go 5 at least that is a good sign for Milwaukee or Toronto.

Lebron hasn't lost a first round game in almost 5 years. Maybe this Indy team will do it but I'll believe it when I see it.

[76ciology]

Watching the Celtics you get the impression of how much you need a top player in the league. They look like a 1st-2nd round team despite having the first seed. And the league will do it's magic to make sure they won't get into the finals.

It's not the league's fault they start a Center who doesn't rebound and a 5'8 shooting guard.

Haha that one too. But ainge has no choice but to settle for leftovers.

[shawn_hemp]

Cavs don't need to play defense against the Pacers. Playing only on one side of the court allows them to pace themselves for the entire play-off run.

Game nowadays is measured by how much offensive firepower you got. Defense is just secondary, an extra gear to pull away or to raise your game higher.

Lebrons played 42 minutes in both games so far and they have barely won both. That is not what Cleveland wants. If Indiana can grab a game at home and make this go 5 at least that is a good sign for Milwaukee or Toronto.

Lebron hasn't lost a first round game in almost 5 years. Maybe this Indy team will do it but I'll believe it when I see it.

Just realized it, but that was to the Sixers right?

Ok I just looked that up, no idea where I got that from.

I vaguely remember beating some LeBron led team for a game in the first round? Maybe we got swept actually. Idk

[Sixerscan]

Lebrons played 42 minutes in both games so far and they have barely won both. That is not what Cleveland wants. If Indiana can grab a game at home and make this go 5 at least that is a good sign for Milwaukee or Toronto.

Lebron hasn't lost a first round game in almost 5 years. Maybe this Indy team will do it but I'll believe it when I see it.

Just realized it, but that was to the Sixers right?

Ok I just looked that up, no idea where I got that from.

I vaguely remember beating some LeBron led team for a game in the first round? Maybe we got swept actually. Idk

Yeah the Sixers took a game off of them the year before. LouWill with a big shot at the end to seal it.

[76ciology]

My guess is Grizz got better chance in winning against the Spurs if they play fast pace and space game than trying to mirror the Spurs game. Grizz needs another play maker after Conley. Right now the bigs are crossed out and it's basically kawhi vs carter or grizz wings.

[76ciology]

Pacers should play Lance at PG whenever Cavs is with LBJ to counter the 1-3 PnR. That Teague vs LBJ match-up is really hurting them. Then maybe let Teague do damage off the bench.

[shawn_hemp]

My guess is Grizz got better chance in winning against the Spurs if they play fast pace and space game than trying to mirror the Spurs game. Grizz needs another play maker after Conley. Right now the bigs are crossed out and it's basically kawhi vs carter or grizz wings.

I was kind of hoping to see Tony Allen guard Kawhi. I think the games would be a lot closer if Allen was playing.

[76ciology]

To end the 1st quarter Cavs played a line-up of..
Deron
JR
Korver
RJ
Love

Interesting. It's as if they say.. "F defense. Let's see if your second unit can match our offense."

[XtremeDunkz]

My guess is Grizz got better chance in winning against the Spurs if they play fast pace and space game than trying to mirror the Spurs game. Grizz needs another play maker after Conley. Right now the bigs are crossed out and it's basically kawhi vs carter or grizz wings.

I still remember how cool it was back when the Pistons held 5 straight opponents under 70 points. What masterful defense that was. Say what you want about 90's/early 2000's ball but at least teams could have their own identity. I hope a couple rule changes come in to play soon, because if we get good by launching 3's all game I will stop watching the NBA. It just isn't exciting to see the same thing every time.

[76ciology]

My guess is Grizz got better chance in winning against the Spurs if they play fast pace and space game than trying to mirror the Spurs game. Grizz needs another play maker after Conley. Right now the bigs are crossed out and it's basically kawhi vs carter or grizz wings.

I still remember how cool it was back when the Pistons held 5 straight opponents under 70 points. What masterful defense that was. Say what you want about 90's/early 2000's ball but at least teams could have their own identity. I hope a couple rule changes come in to play soon, because if we get good by launching 3's all game I will stop watching the NBA. It just isn't exciting to see the same thing every time.

You will limit the 3s if you can switch the screens without creating any mismatches. And i think it will be possible when you have a big PG like Simmons and Giannis. downside is you'll end up with a heavy ISO game, which is pretty much whats happening with the Cavs when they are getting countered by their opponents by switching every screens instead of risking open 3s.

Personally, I enjoy watching the Warriors and Cavs play. Game has more diversity IMO. You see traditional bigs, stretch 4s and to some times really small frontcourt like a RJ-Love frontcourt a while ago and there's a lot of read and react goes into todays game that is less predictable than the 90s way of running set plays then if it's denied you just pound it to the post with 10 secs or less in the shotclock.

I havent look at the numbers, but seems to me that the heavy 3 game is also leading to less FTs that is a huge plus for me. The worst thing for me in watching basketball is spending a lot of time watching guys shoot FTs. The OKC-Heat finals and Mavs-Heat (wade-shaq) for me were ruin by the number of free throws on those series.