Mock Off-Season: Stage 1

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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#141 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:52 pm

bdpecore wrote:
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Any thoughts on my earlier trade proposals of either Henson and our 2018 1st (Lottery Protected)for Pick #27
or
Henson and #18 for #27?


would be contingent on moving lopez first... but i do have interest

I'll circle back to you when it gets closer to the draft.


sounds good
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#142 » by jayjaysee » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:56 pm

bdpecore wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:
bdpecore wrote:We are interested in moving Delly to clear out cap space.


Indy is interested in Delly. Maybe Jefferson for Henson and Delly? Like that fit with Teague/Lance/PG - assuming we don't make any bigger moves..

I would be open to this trade. You get younger while we create some additional cap space this season and down the road. Would you be willing to add a 2nd Rd pick so we at least get something of value for Delly?


Yeah, I'd add 47th.

I'd like Henson bringing some rim protection, try and force some Henson/Turner line ups. Delly can soak up all of Teague's backup minutes and should be able to play between Teague and George. Indy can still create cap space later if JJ or Gordon want to come to Indy (Ellis+Lance+17th for a distant 2nd) but even in that dream, I'd rather have Henson and Delly off the bench than Jefferson and Brooks.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#143 » by BullyKing » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:09 pm

wackbone wrote:The Houston Rockets have interest in the following players (Only including guys who are potential trade pieces):


Philadelphia: Justin Anderson, Jahlil Okafor


If you have any of these players, contact me to see if we can work out a potential deal. Depending on what you are sending, we have our whole team besides Harden available, with Beverley and Capela very difficult to get.


Philadelphia is willing to entertain offers on either or both of these players.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#144 » by jayjaysee » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:15 pm

Prokorov wrote:
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Brook Lopez available? Something with Al, we have the cap space to absorb difference, and 17 for Lopez and something.

Maybe Acy+Lopez+27 for Jefferson+17?



#27
Lopez
Nicholson
Acy

for
#17
Jefferson

Done deal?


This feels over reactionary.. But with Nicholson included, I wouldn't want to move back in the draft.. He's really not good at basketball..
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#145 » by Ballerhogger » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:18 pm

aramada wrote:CHICAGO BULLS

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We are keeping Fred Hoiberg for now. He has shown improvement and taken a lopsided roster to the playoffs. (Off the record justification - His remaining guaranteed money is a sensitive topic with ownership, two years after paying Thibs to do nothing).
We are letting Randy Brown go and would like to hire Corliss Williamson from the Orlando Magic as our #2 Assistant Coach behind Jim Boylen. He will be helping our bigs, especially Bobby Portis, given their very close relationship.
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Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#146 » by bdpecore » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:19 pm

jayjaysee wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:
Indy is interested in Delly. Maybe Jefferson for Henson and Delly? Like that fit with Teague/Lance/PG - assuming we don't make any bigger moves..

I would be open to this trade. You get younger while we create some additional cap space this season and down the road. Would you be willing to add a 2nd Rd pick so we at least get something of value for Delly?


Yeah, I'd add 47th.

I'd like Henson bringing some rim protection, try and force some Henson/Turner line ups. Delly can soak up all of Teague's backup minutes and should be able to play between Teague and George. Indy can still create cap space later if JJ or Gordon want to come to Indy (Ellis+Lance+17th for a distant 2nd) but even in that dream, I'd rather have Henson and Delly off the bench than Jefferson and Brooks.

I'm game if you are but guessing we need to wait to make it official until we get closer to the draft.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#147 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:20 pm

jayjaysee wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:
Brook Lopez available? Something with Al, we have the cap space to absorb difference, and 17 for Lopez and something.

Maybe Acy+Lopez+27 for Jefferson+17?



#27
Lopez
Nicholson
Acy

for
#17
Jefferson

Done deal?


This feels over reactionary.. But with Nicholson included, I wouldn't want to move back in the draft.. He's really not good at basketball..


yeah i mean, id be including him to dump him :)

for me Lopez for #17 is pretty fair value. and then including #27 and Acy id need something a bit more.

what about the same deal with Justin Hamilton in place of Nicholson? hamilton is only 3 million and is a stretch 5?
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#148 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:21 pm

bdpecore wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:
bdpecore wrote:I would be open to this trade. You get younger while we create some additional cap space this season and down the road. Would you be willing to add a 2nd Rd pick so we at least get something of value for Delly?


Yeah, I'd add 47th.

I'd like Henson bringing some rim protection, try and force some Henson/Turner line ups. Delly can soak up all of Teague's backup minutes and should be able to play between Teague and George. Indy can still create cap space later if JJ or Gordon want to come to Indy (Ellis+Lance+17th for a distant 2nd) but even in that dream, I'd rather have Henson and Delly off the bench than Jefferson and Brooks.

In game if you are but I'm guessing we need to wait to make it official until we get closer to the draft.


Can we expand this to a 3 team deal?

id send Lopez to indy and take henson and we can add in the picks needed?

ive been talking deals with both of you, this deal would kind of kill both :(
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#149 » by spankymoore7 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:27 pm

[quote="wackbone"]The Houston Rockets have interest in the following players (Only including guys who are potential trade pieces):

Charlotte: Nic Batum, MKG, Marvin Williams

Michael wants to change things up for Charlotte. What deals would you propose?
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Post#150 » by bdpecore » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:33 pm

Prokorov wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:
Yeah, I'd add 47th.

I'd like Henson bringing some rim protection, try and force some Henson/Turner line ups. Delly can soak up all of Teague's backup minutes and should be able to play between Teague and George. Indy can still create cap space later if JJ or Gordon want to come to Indy (Ellis+Lance+17th for a distant 2nd) but even in that dream, I'd rather have Henson and Delly off the bench than Jefferson and Brooks.

In game if you are but I'm guessing we need to wait to make it official until we get closer to the draft.


Can we expand this to a 3 team deal?

id send Lopez to indy and take henson and we can add in the picks needed?

ive been talking deals with both of you, this deal would kind of kill both :(

I'm fine with this but not really sure what else you'd be wanting from our end since I'm happy with my return. What if we took back Nicholson and #29 in exchange for Hawes (exp) and Indy's 2nd?
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#151 » by Knickfan1982 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:34 pm

sportscrazy"
Charlotte Hornets: spankymoore7
Cleveland Cavaliers: Dan Verze

[quote="spankymoore7 wrote:
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Dan Verze wrote:.

[/quote]


Timberwolves here. Kinda curious as to what the Bobcats would want for Batum or Gilchrist and the Cavs would want for Tristan Thompson.
Why rely on nuance, facts and logic when you can bludgeon the other side with mindless repetition of "Duuur McDaniel's has potential :tooth and still be treated as if you were reasonable.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#152 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:37 pm

bdpecore wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
bdpecore wrote:In game if you are but I'm guessing we need to wait to make it official until we get closer to the draft.


Can we expand this to a 3 team deal?

id send Lopez to indy and take henson and we can add in the picks needed?

ive been talking deals with both of you, this deal would kind of kill both :(

I'm fine with this but not really sure what else you'd be wanting from our end since I'm happy with my return. What if we took back Nicholson and #29 in exchange for Hawes (exp) and Indy's 2nd?



what is your guys deal?

the center of my deal with him was Lopez/#27 for Al/#17. so id likely want to give him lopez and #27 for #17
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#153 » by bdpecore » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:41 pm

Prokorov wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Can we expand this to a 3 team deal?

id send Lopez to indy and take henson and we can add in the picks needed?

ive been talking deals with both of you, this deal would kind of kill both :(

I'm fine with this but not really sure what else you'd be wanting from our end since I'm happy with my return. What if we took back Nicholson and #29 in exchange for Hawes (exp) and Indy's 2nd?



what is your guys deal?

the center of my deal with him was Lopez/#27 for Al/#17. so id likely want to give him lopez and #27 for #17

Jefferson and #47 for Delly and Henson

So maybe something like this works for all parties.

Indy Out: #17, #47 and Jefferson
Indy In: Lopez, Delly and Acy

Brooklyn Out: Lopez, Acy, Nicholson and #29
Brooklyn In: Henson, Hawes, #17 and #47

Milwaukee Out: Henson, Delly and Hawes
Milwaukee In: Jefferson, Nicholson and #29
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#154 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:41 pm

bdpecore wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
bdpecore wrote:In game if you are but I'm guessing we need to wait to make it official until we get closer to the draft.


Can we expand this to a 3 team deal?

id send Lopez to indy and take henson and we can add in the picks needed?

ive been talking deals with both of you, this deal would kind of kill both :(

I'm fine with this but not really sure what else you'd be wanting from our end since I'm happy with my return. What if we took back Nicholson and #29 in exchange for Hawes (exp) and Indy's 2nd?


This would work for me:

Indy Out: #17 and Jefferson
Indy In: Lopez, Delly and Acy

Brooklyn Out: Lopez, Acy, Nicholson and #29
Brooklyn In: Henson, Hawes, #17

Milwaukee Out: Henson, Delly and Hawes
Milwaukee In: Jefferson, Nicholson and #29
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Post#155 » by bdpecore » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:46 pm

Prokorov wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Can we expand this to a 3 team deal?

id send Lopez to indy and take henson and we can add in the picks needed?

ive been talking deals with both of you, this deal would kind of kill both :(

I'm fine with this but not really sure what else you'd be wanting from our end since I'm happy with my return. What if we took back Nicholson and #29 in exchange for Hawes (exp) and Indy's 2nd?


This would work for me:

Indy Out: #17 and Jefferson
Indy In: Lopez, Delly and Acy

Brooklyn Out: Lopez, Acy, Nicholson and #29
Brooklyn In: Henson, Hawes, #17

Milwaukee Out: Henson, Delly and Hawes
Milwaukee In: Jefferson, Nicholson and #29

I'm good with my portion. jayjaysee what do you think?

jayjaysee wrote: ?
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#156 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:48 pm

bdpecore wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
bdpecore wrote:I'm fine with this but not really sure what else you'd be wanting from our end since I'm happy with my return. What if we took back Nicholson and #29 in exchange for Hawes (exp) and Indy's 2nd?


This would work for me:

Indy Out: #17 and Jefferson
Indy In: Lopez, Delly and Acy

Brooklyn Out: Lopez, Acy, Nicholson and #29
Brooklyn In: Henson, Hawes, #17

Milwaukee Out: Henson, Delly and Hawes
Milwaukee In: Jefferson, Nicholson and #29

I'm good with my portion. jayjaysee what do you think?


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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#157 » by jayjaysee » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:53 pm

bdpecore wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
bdpecore wrote:In game if you are but I'm guessing we need to wait to make it official until we get closer to the draft.


Can we expand this to a 3 team deal?

id send Lopez to indy and take henson and we can add in the picks needed?

ive been talking deals with both of you, this deal would kind of kill both :(

I'm fine with this but not really sure what else you'd be wanting from our end since I'm happy with my return. What if we took back Nicholson and #29 in exchange for Hawes (exp) and Indy's 2nd?


Indy doesn't have the cap space to take Lopez and Delly while only trading Al.. I don't think either of you are wanting to take Ellis... And I'm not sure it gets too complicated/unrealistic (sportcrz can make the call) but if it is.. I'd do something like;

Ellis, Al, 17, 47 for Lopez, Delly, 27

If you guys wanted to fit your deal around that, it seems like it could work. But I think I'm more interested in Delly than Henson or Lopez so the Milwaukee side is more important to me..

Makes it Henson+Ellis+17 for Lopez+27 as an add to what I'd do with Milwaukee. It seems reasonable and lets me lower my standard on a starting two guard with Lopez taking Henson's spot.

Ellis is an expiring... But he's probably gotta go to Brooklyn as he's already checked the Bucks out once in his career.

Edit/

if my deal for lopez was salary+17 for Lopez+27..

and my deal for Delly+Henson was always 47+salary..

I'm not sure how the new deal has me giving up 17, only one salary, and not getting back a later pick :/
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#158 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:04 pm

jayjaysee wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Can we expand this to a 3 team deal?

id send Lopez to indy and take henson and we can add in the picks needed?

ive been talking deals with both of you, this deal would kind of kill both :(

I'm fine with this but not really sure what else you'd be wanting from our end since I'm happy with my return. What if we took back Nicholson and #29 in exchange for Hawes (exp) and Indy's 2nd?


Indy doesn't have the cap space to take Lopez and Delly while only trading Al.. I don't think either of you are wanting to take Ellis... And I'm not sure it gets too complicated/unrealistic (sportcrz can make the call) but if it is.. I'd do something like;

Ellis, Al, 17, 47 for Lopez, Delly, 27

If you guys wanted to fit your deal around that, it seems like it could work. But I think I'm more interested in Delly than Henson or Lopez so the Milwaukee side is more important to me..

Makes it Henson+Ellis+17 for Lopez+27 as an add to what I'd do with Milwaukee. It seems reasonable and lets me lower my standard on a starting two guard with Lopez taking Henson's spot.

Ellis is an expiring... But he's probably gotta go to Brooklyn as he's already checked the Bucks out once in his career.

Edit/

if my deal for lopez was salary+17 for Lopez+27..

and my deal for Delly+Henson was always 47+salary..

I'm not sure how the new deal has me giving up 17, only one salary, and not getting back a later pick :/


you would be getting #27 from me in the deal.

Ellis is alot to take in.... id be giving up lopez and taking on 20+M in salary i dont want to move up 10 spots.... in which case id probably look to trade lopez as a straight salary dump.

but i the bucks would take ellis back id add in value... maybe the #22 pick.
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#159 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:07 pm

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Charlotte Hornets: spankymoore7
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[quote="spankymoore7 wrote:
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Dan Verze wrote:.




Timberwolves here. Kinda curious as to what the Bobcats would want for Batum or Gilchrist and the Cavs would want for Tristan Thompson.[/quote]

any interest in lopez?

Lopez + 22 + 27 for the wolves pick?
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Re: Mock Off-Season: Stage 1 

Post#160 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:08 pm

spankymoore7 wrote:
wackbone wrote:The Houston Rockets have interest in the following players (Only including guys who are potential trade pieces):

Charlotte: Nic Batum, MKG, Marvin Williams

Michael wants to change things up for Charlotte. What deals would you propose?


Lopez + #27 for Batum?

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