Playoffs 2017: WC First Round - Houston Rockets (3) vs Oklahoma City Thunder (6)

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Re: Playoffs 2017: WC First Round - Houston Rockets (3) vs Oklahoma City Thunder (6) 

Post#401 » by Osirus89 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:06 am

The Hack wrote:Curious what OKC fans think of Kanter.
He was visibly pissed when they brought Sabonis in instead of him after Adams got his 5th. Not sure how much he helps them when he's in the game, but from what I see his attitude is pretty horrible. You guys see him on a daily basis....what do you think?

He sucks. Nice guy and likes being in OKC, but he sucks. The contract was questionable when Durant and Russ where together. Now that it is just Russ, that contract is a plague.

He thought he was pissed when Domantas was put in instead of him, but he will be really upset when he is sent up the river in a trade.
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Post#402 » by Osirus89 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:28 am

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Well said.


Whether we win or lose this series, I'll just be glad it is over. I would rather have played Golden State than Houston. It would have been 4 quick blowouts. Now I have to sit through pundits talking about OKC supporting cast vs Houston supporting cast.

News flash: What is the most prized commodity in basketball currently: 3pt shooting
What does OKC suck at: 3pt shooting.
You can compare Oladipo and Gordon /Adams and Capela/ Roberson and Ariza/ Gibson vs Anderson any way you want to.

We can't shoot the ball therefore we are the worse team. Its really that simple. Russ shooting 18 times in a 4th quarter is implicitly saying "My team won't get in done, looks like I will have to. "

PS. We also have one of the worst backup PGs of all time and they have Lou williams :banghead:
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Post#403 » by spearsy23 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:30 am

Russ should pull a Kobe and refuse to shoot for a half.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#404 » by bondom34 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:59 am

Just realized how stressed out this team makes me.
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Post#405 » by spearsy23 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:12 am

bondom34 wrote:Just realized how stressed out this team makes me.

I'm frustrated that we don't know how good this team could be. I'm okay with it not being very good, but I wish we could see it with a competent coach to know for sure it's a talent issue.

I've been a lot less emotionally invested this year though. I'm sure it's a combination of lower expectations and a change in priorities, but it's a lot healthier way to watch for sure.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#406 » by bondom34 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:25 am

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bondom34 wrote:Just realized how stressed out this team makes me.

I'm frustrated that we don't know how good this team could be. I'm okay with it not being very good, but I wish we could see it with a competent coach to know for sure it's a talent issue.

I've been a lot less emotionally invested this year though. I'm sure it's a combination of lower expectations and a change in priorities, but it's a lot healthier way to watch for sure.

Yeah I was getting there but this series has pissed me off again with the hot takes and bad opposing fans.
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Re: Playoffs 2017: WC First Round - Houston Rockets (3) vs Oklahoma City Thunder (6) 

Post#407 » by ThunderCeltic » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:07 am

Wish you all could be int he Peake for Game 3 tomorrow night. Here are our shirts.

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Post#408 » by Pillendreher » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:22 am

Read on Twitter


He really doesn't know Grant sucks.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#409 » by spearsy23 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:45 am

Pillendreher wrote:
Read on Twitter


He really doesn't know Grant sucks.

I honestly can't tell if Katz is low key trolling Donovan or if every answer he gives is just this stupid.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#410 » by Antinomy » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:22 am

Oladipo just isn't a guy who can be a #2 option on offense. He's too indecisive about his moves. He'll catch & hold the ball for a few seconds thinking about a 3 then he'll jab step & think about calling for a screen, then he'll hesitate coming off the screen and end up shooting a 19 footer. He can't finish at the rim, can't handle the ball, can't play make, etc...imagine if we had CJ McCollum instead. Although he is worse on D, his ability on offense would more than make up for it.

At this point, I'd rather keep Roberson than Oladipo. I don't know why OKC extended him early if they knew they were gonna overpay him anyway. Could've atleast saved the cap space for this summer. Now they have 3 logjam contracts.

When your second, third AND fourth highest paid players are ALL underachieving, it's time to clear the deck
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Post#411 » by Pillendreher » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:40 pm

I have to say I like these new DT guys.

http://dailythunder.com/thoughts-from-game-2/
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#412 » by NaturalThunder » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:23 pm

Osirus89 wrote:
BobThunder wrote: snip.

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Well said.


Whether we win or lose this series, I'll just be glad it is over. I would rather have played Golden State than Houston. It would have been 4 quick blowouts. Now I have to sit through pundits talking about OKC supporting cast vs Houston supporting cast.

News flash: What is the most prized commodity in basketball currently: 3pt shooting
What does OKC suck at: 3pt shooting.
You can compare Oladipo and Gordon /Adams and Capela/ Roberson and Ariza/ Gibson vs Anderson any way you want to.

We can't shoot the ball therefore we are the worse team. Its really that simple. Russ shooting 18 times in a 4th quarter is implicitly saying "My team won't get in done, looks like I will have to. "

PS. We also have one of the worst backup PGs of all time and they have Lou williams :banghead:

It's really starting to bug me that non-OKC fans and the national media still haven't figured out that our players are a terrible fit. Yes, in vacuum and in the right situation, players like Oladipo, Kanter, Adams, Roberson, and Gibson are more than serviceable NBA players (although I still waffle on Kanter); but together all on the same team, they are a HORRIBLE fit. That's our "most serviceable" group of NBA players other than Russ and it's basically four bigs (I think of Robes as more of a true frontcourt SF) and one wildly inconsistent guard. In that group you have the following:

Oladipo: What even is he at this point? He's our only non-Russ player who is capable of creating his own shot but he plays passive way too often and, even when he is aggressive, he's still a terrible finisher at the basket.

Adams: A supposed-to-be defensive anchor who doesn't rebound or defend particularly well anymore and needs almost all of his offense generated/created by Westbrook.

Kanter: Excellent scoring big and good rebounder but he is so disastrously terrible on defense that in today's NBA, and especially in the playoffs, he can't really even play unless it's against the right team.

Roberson: Excellent/elite perimeter defender who covers a lot of flaws on an otherwise terrible defensive team. However, he's a trainwreck on offense. He can't dribble, he can't shoot, and he doesn't commit himself enough to cutting or attacking the offensive glass.

Gibson: Really, this guy is exactly what we thought he was: a near-perfect role playing glue-guy. His one downfall since he joined the Thunder? The moron in a suit and tie with a tub of grease in his hair masquerading as an NBA head coach.

And then there's the rest: Abrines (excellent shooter, terrible defender); McDermott (used to be a good 3P shooter until he joined the Thunder; terrible defender); Sabonis (semi-promising rookie who just sucks right now); Grant (garbage); Singler (even more garbage than Grant); Christon (even more garbage than Grant and Singler).


This thought that we have good NBA players isn't wrong. We have about six solid to good NBA players. But the narrative that Westbrook's supporting cast isn't bad and "Westbrook doesn't make his teammates better" is all kinds of wrong if you dig below the surface. In today's space-and-pace, shoot a crapton of threes NBA, our roster is horribly constructed; we have way too many bad shooters and/or one-way guys who are decent/great on one end but equally not-decent/terrible on the other end. And our idiot head coach is still playing 12 guys in game 84 of the season because he has no clue what he's doing.

And really, especially in today's NBA, our biggest flaw/downfall is our severe lack of floor-spacers.
Said in a thread about which point guards would make OKC better if they replaced Westbrook:
Coxy wrote:I think with a PG like George Hill, they'd be better than current.
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Post#414 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:15 pm

Hope that our role player can play way better at home. They usually do, but this team is such a mess right now that... I don't know.

Also afraid about Westbrook being very tired after having to do so much last game and this season overall.

It's time for Oladipo to show up...
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Post#415 » by ThunderBolt » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:24 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Hope that our role player can play way better at home. They usually do, but this team is such a mess right now that... I don't know.

Also afraid about Westbrook being very tired after having to do so much last game and this season overall.

It's time for Oladipo to show up...


In game 2 Westbrook played the same amount of minthats that lebron James was averaging for the entire season. I don't think he was tired. I think he was frustrated.
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Re: Playoffs 2017: WC First Round - Houston Rockets (3) vs Oklahoma City Thunder (6) 

Post#416 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:27 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:Hope that our role player can play way better at home. They usually do, but this team is such a mess right now that... I don't know.

Also afraid about Westbrook being very tired after having to do so much last game and this season overall.

It's time for Oladipo to show up...


In game 2 Westbrook played the same amount of minthats that lebron James was averaging for the entire season. I don't think he was tired. I think he was frustrated.


I think it was both. It's not so much about minutes. It's also about the effort you have to do during those minutes. Westbrook has to drive on offense, shoot, pass, rebound ... LBJ has some help and can let Kyrie driving, find open spots etc...
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Post#417 » by NaturalThunder » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:44 pm

I'm not real sure where to put this so I'm putting it here.

This was actually posted on the GB.

Coxy wrote:I think with a PG like George Hill, they'd be better than current.


That place is rapidly devolving towards Inside Hoops level of stupidity.
Said in a thread about which point guards would make OKC better if they replaced Westbrook:
Coxy wrote:I think with a PG like George Hill, they'd be better than current.
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Post#418 » by bondom34 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:53 pm

NaturalThunder wrote:I'm not real sure where to put this so I'm putting it here.

This was actually posted on the GB.

Coxy wrote:I think with a PG like George Hill, they'd be better than current.


That place is rapidly devolving towards Inside Hoops level of stupidity.

Saw that thread. Almost died :lol:.
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Post#419 » by hardenASG13 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:05 am

Okc is favored by 2.5 tonight....suprising, but encouraging line
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Post#420 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:07 am

+2,5 for houston is a good bet. I wouldn't bet on the winner. Think it's a flip.

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