This offseason

[Prokorov]

The way Marks is making it sound, he wants to play the long game and not rush anything.

not to be hyperbolic or anything, but a full season of the guys we had at the end of the season + Milos instead of Foye could legit make a push for the playoffs same as Boston did in Brad Stevens second year.

Look at the makeup of the Celtics, they are built on a crop of young athletes that hustle and the team comes in waves. That is the exact formula of the latter part of our season. When our starters went to the bench we brought on guys that would run harder than the opponents subs thus usually building leads or closing the gaps. Thing that puts us in a better position than Boston as far as roster construction is that we have a true center on the team.

it truly sucks that we don't have our picks but right now Marks is building a stable of kids that will be the future role players with which our foundation is built.

If this is our lineup next year we will always have multiple ball handlers (BH) on the court
Lin (BH), Din (BH), Archie (BH)
Milos (BH), IW (BH), SKilz (bh)
CLV (BH), KJ (bh), Harris
RHJ (bh), Booker (bh), Acy
Brook, Ham, Nich

***lower case means they are capable of bringing it up but cannot initiate the offense

I'm sure we can find a take for Ham or Skilz or Harris to open up a spot for one of our firsts, I'm praying that we can get OG!!!

I agree that team COULD make the playoffs, but may be better off missing it... id rather go with the same strategy as this year giving our two new rookies tons of playing time along with letting guys like goodwing, KJ whitehead struggle in big roles. it will payoff later in the season when those guys show real development just like they did this year

id take 32 wins and big development and experience for young guys over 40 wins and a first round exit

obviously, if you can do both, you doit... but id be pretty upset if we ditched what worked so well this year unless we add some real talent in FA

[NyCeEvO]

i feel bad for the fools that give roberson 70+ million

I still suffer trauma from Post-Billy King syndrome. Therefore, I don't laugh at the prospect of another team signing a player to a cap killing contract until it's actually done and there's no chance for us to sign them.

[MrDollarBills]

Giving a strong offer to a guy like Hardaway makes more sense than ponying up to the over 30 crowd

I don't think Hardaway is really that good tbh to be offering a ton of money to

I think Porter is worth the max based on potential and current ability. we actually need a guy like him in the line up.

yeah i want no part of hardaway.

i also want no part of porter for more then 15 million. elite three point shooter but just a roll guy. same with KCP.

only guy id overpay in RFA is noel because legit centers who can defend the pick and roll and switch on to smalls are so tough to find. look at the impact thon maker is having for instance.

otherwise give me Milos, the two rookies we draft and just roll with that for 30 or so wins and another season developing young guys

I have no problem with this method.

I really would prefer that the Nets not clog up the rotation and continue with another year of development for the 3 kids + the two rookies we take and add sensible FA signings

why tie up cap space when we are nowhere near ready yet. we need to improve the roster so that the offense can work better with parts that fit, but in a way that doesn't kill flexibility.

Now if we can get a PJ Tucker in here to add a veteran presence in the starting line up, that's a smart move. too.

I think a 10-12 win jump next season is not at all unrealistic. in fact, we should expect it from this team especially with some positive additions, a healthy Lin, and 2nd year improvement from LeVert.

I don't care about wins frankly. Just progress. Capping ourselves out for a 38 win team is not progress. 31 wins, improvement from LV/RHJ/Whitehead, development time for two rookies, and making sensible moves (Lopez trade to a contender for 2018 pick and expirings?) to me will be progress.

Plus, Kenny could definitely use another year to find out what works for him and what doesn't as a coach. this is a process.

[jbeachboy]

we dont need pj tucker , we need someone with high upside and potential and is younger.

[Paradise]

James Johnson anyone?

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[shakendfries]

James Johnson anyone?

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If Pat Riley wouldn't even let us steal Tyler Johnson, I doubt he'd let us snatch James

[Papi_swav]

James Johnson anyone?

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If Pat Riley wouldn't even let us steal Tyler Johnson, I doubt he'd let us snatch James

Yes please, I was hoping we signed him for cheap last year. I agree with shakendfries , Riley said he would like to keep his guys.

[DeRoma]

Some Bucks fan suggested in T&S board a trade offer that I think is pretty appealling

John Henson
17th pick

for
27th pick

I would try to add Trevor Booker and Sean Kilpatrick in this offer. What do you guys think?

I say we do it in a heartbeat if Justin Patton falls all the way to the 17th

Then trade Brook Lopez to a team like Sacramento for the 10th pick... I'll even sell him low just to get another draft pick. That way we get 3 in this draft.

We can even get Mitchell move Whitehead as a 3rd string to both guard positions. Which we can then add another playmaker at the wing position or look for stretch 4.

Our team can potentially look like:

Lin / Dinwiddie / Whitehead
Redick???? / Mitchell??? /Goodwin
LeVert / Kurucs???? /McDaniel
RHJ / Muscala??? / Acy
Patton??? / Henson / Nicholson

[Paradise]

Some Bucks fan suggested in T&S board a trade offer that I think is pretty appealling

John Henson
17th pick

for
27th pick

I would try to add Trevor Booker and Sean Kilpatrick in this offer. What do you guys think?

I say we do it in a heartbeat if Justin Patton falls all the way to the 17th

Then trade Brook Lopez to a team like Sacramento for the 10th pick... I'll even sell him low just to get another draft pick. That way we get 3 in this draft.

We can even get Mitchell move Whitehead as a 3rd string to both guard positions. Which we can then add another playmaker at the wing position or look for stretch 4.

Our team can potentially look like:

Lin / Dinwiddie / Whitehead
Redick???? / Mitchell??? /Goodwin
LeVert / Kurucs???? /McDaniel
RHJ / Muscala??? / Acy
Patton??? / Henson / Nicholson

Who's going to score the ball, though?


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[FlipFlopShot]

Some Bucks fan suggested in T&S board a trade offer that I think is pretty appealling

John Henson
17th pick

for
27th pick

I would try to add Trevor Booker and Sean Kilpatrick in this offer. What do you guys think?

I say we do it in a heartbeat if Justin Patton falls all the way to the 17th

Then trade Brook Lopez to a team like Sacramento for the 10th pick... I'll even sell him low just to get another draft pick. That way we get 3 in this draft.

We can even get Mitchell move Whitehead as a 3rd string to both guard positions. Which we can then add another playmaker at the wing position or look for stretch 4.

Our team can potentially look like:

Lin / Dinwiddie / Whitehead
Redick???? / Mitchell??? /Goodwin
LeVert / Kurucs???? /McDaniel
RHJ / Muscala??? / Acy
Patton??? / Henson / Nicholson

Who's going to score the ball, though?


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Who cares who. The development team is drooling.

[MrDollarBills]

Some Bucks fan suggested in T&S board a trade offer that I think is pretty appealling

John Henson
17th pick

for
27th pick

I would try to add Trevor Booker and Sean Kilpatrick in this offer. What do you guys think?

I say we do it in a heartbeat if Justin Patton falls all the way to the 17th

Then trade Brook Lopez to a team like Sacramento for the 10th pick... I'll even sell him low just to get another draft pick. That way we get 3 in this draft.

We can even get Mitchell move Whitehead as a 3rd string to both guard positions. Which we can then add another playmaker at the wing position or look for stretch 4.

Our team can potentially look like:

Lin / Dinwiddie / Whitehead
Redick???? / Mitchell??? /Goodwin
LeVert / Kurucs???? /McDaniel
RHJ / Muscala??? / Acy
Patton??? / Henson / Nicholson

Why would Sacramento trade the 10th pick in the draft for a one year rental of Brook Lopez?

[MrDollarBills]

Some Bucks fan suggested in T&S board a trade offer that I think is pretty appealling

John Henson
17th pick

for
27th pick

I would try to add Trevor Booker and Sean Kilpatrick in this offer. What do you guys think?

I say we do it in a heartbeat if Justin Patton falls all the way to the 17th

Then trade Brook Lopez to a team like Sacramento for the 10th pick... I'll even sell him low just to get another draft pick. That way we get 3 in this draft.

We can even get Mitchell move Whitehead as a 3rd string to both guard positions. Which we can then add another playmaker at the wing position or look for stretch 4.

Our team can potentially look like:

Lin / Dinwiddie / Whitehead
Redick???? / Mitchell??? /Goodwin
LeVert / Kurucs???? /McDaniel
RHJ / Muscala??? / Acy
Patton??? / Henson / Nicholson

Who's going to score the ball, though?


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Who cares who. The development team is drooling.

Nah I'd rather keep Lopez and draft a center that can be groomed behind him. That's the more sensible approach and keeps the team competitive in the interim. Dumping Lopez with zero scoring to replace him is counter productive.

[Prokorov]

Some Bucks fan suggested in T&S board a trade offer that I think is pretty appealling

John Henson
17th pick

for
27th pick

I would try to add Trevor Booker and Sean Kilpatrick in this offer. What do you guys think?

I say we do it in a heartbeat if Justin Patton falls all the way to the 17th

Then trade Brook Lopez to a team like Sacramento for the 10th pick... I'll even sell him low just to get another draft pick. That way we get 3 in this draft.

We can even get Mitchell move Whitehead as a 3rd string to both guard positions. Which we can then add another playmaker at the wing position or look for stretch 4.

Our team can potentially look like:

Lin / Dinwiddie / Whitehead
Redick???? / Mitchell??? /Goodwin
LeVert / Kurucs???? /McDaniel
RHJ / Muscala??? / Acy
Patton??? / Henson / Nicholson

Who's going to score the ball, though?


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levert, reddick, and Lin.... mitchell if we got him. its really not that much offense to replace.

get 6 or so points from your new starting center get an extra 4 ppg from levert (so 12 ppg) and then your new SG (reddick) gives you an extra 8 per game on top of what foye gave us (reddick scored 15 now foye gave us 5)

We need to start transitioning our scoring to the wings anyhow. you dont win today with your center being your go to scorer.

[Prokorov]

Who's going to score the ball, though?


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Who cares who. The development team is drooling.

Nah I'd rather keep Lopez and draft a center that can be groomed behind him. That's the more sensible approach and keeps the team competitive in the interim. Dumping Lopez with zero scoring to replace him is counter productive.

i think we would be much more competitive if we could trap or switch on pick and rolls.... and i think next year is a great time to finally start transitinoning our scoring from C to wing.

[Paradise]

Who cares who. The development team is drooling.

Nah I'd rather keep Lopez and draft a center that can be groomed behind him. That's the more sensible approach and keeps the team competitive in the interim. Dumping Lopez with zero scoring to replace him is counter productive.

i think we would be much more competitive if we could trap or switch on pick and rolls.... and i think next year is a great time to finally start transitinoning our scoring from C to wing.

11-14 with Lopez and Lin is an indicator we can survive fine with Lopez. Nobody is saying we keep him long term but for the sake of continuity, we should hold onto him and let whatever big we draft come along slowly. Whitehead for example was never expected to be a starter this season. Neither will be the 2 picks we draft unless they really surprise.


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[Hello Brooklyn]

Want young players, but don't want to over pay the **** out of them.

What a dilemma.

Looks like were signing Rudy Gay.

[Prokorov]

Nah I'd rather keep Lopez and draft a center that can be groomed behind him. That's the more sensible approach and keeps the team competitive in the interim. Dumping Lopez with zero scoring to replace him is counter productive.

i think we would be much more competitive if we could trap or switch on pick and rolls.... and i think next year is a great time to finally start transitinoning our scoring from C to wing.

11-14 with Lopez and Lin is an indicator we can survive fine with Lopez. Nobody is saying we keep him long term but for the sake of continuity, we should hold onto him and let whatever big we draft come along slowly. Whitehead for example was never expected to be a starter this season. Neither will be the 2 picks we draft unless they really surprise.


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Yeah i mean obviously at full strength we arent a terrible team. and im ok with keeping him for half to a season and then dumping him if thats how it works out... but at the same time next year is another development season and eventually we need to start playing a winning style of defense and getting guys reps in a defense where they have to rotate once we trap the pick and roll is important... that chemistry on rotations can take a long time. so for me the sooner we cang et a center in who can do it, the sooner we can build that comfort as a team.

[DeRoma]

Some Bucks fan suggested in T&S board a trade offer that I think is pretty appealling

John Henson
17th pick

for
27th pick

I would try to add Trevor Booker and Sean Kilpatrick in this offer. What do you guys think?

I say we do it in a heartbeat if Justin Patton falls all the way to the 17th

Then trade Brook Lopez to a team like Sacramento for the 10th pick... I'll even sell him low just to get another draft pick. That way we get 3 in this draft.

We can even get Mitchell move Whitehead as a 3rd string to both guard positions. Which we can then add another playmaker at the wing position or look for stretch 4.

Our team can potentially look like:

Lin / Dinwiddie / Whitehead
Redick???? / Mitchell??? /Goodwin
LeVert / Kurucs???? /McDaniel
RHJ / Muscala??? / Acy
Patton??? / Henson / Nicholson

Why would Sacramento trade the 10th pick in the draft for a one year rental of Brook Lopez?

I'm just saying we can trade Lopez for the highest pick available in order for the team to have 3 picks in 10-15, 17, and 22. I doesn't necessarily need to be Sacramento. It's is going to be for the highest bidder.

We can also get OG. Instead of Kurucs or Mitchell. The flexibility and the many good option of this draft is key for getting as much potential assets for the future.

I do agree tho that if we trade Brook for a rook, that it will take a big hit in the win/lost department.

[Prokorov]

Some Bucks fan suggested in T&S board a trade offer that I think is pretty appealling

John Henson
17th pick

for
27th pick

I would try to add Trevor Booker and Sean Kilpatrick in this offer. What do you guys think?

I say we do it in a heartbeat if Justin Patton falls all the way to the 17th

Then trade Brook Lopez to a team like Sacramento for the 10th pick... I'll even sell him low just to get another draft pick. That way we get 3 in this draft.

We can even get Mitchell move Whitehead as a 3rd string to both guard positions. Which we can then add another playmaker at the wing position or look for stretch 4.

Our team can potentially look like:

Lin / Dinwiddie / Whitehead
Redick???? / Mitchell??? /Goodwin
LeVert / Kurucs???? /McDaniel
RHJ / Muscala??? / Acy
Patton??? / Henson / Nicholson

Why would Sacramento trade the 10th pick in the draft for a one year rental of Brook Lopez?

I'm just saying we can trade Lopez for the highest pick available in order for the team to have 3 picks in 10-15, 17, and 22. I doesn't necessarily need to be Sacramento. It's is going to be for the highest bidder.

We can also get OG. Instead of Kurucs or Mitchell. The flexibility and the many good option of this draft is key for getting as much potential assets for the future.

I do agree tho that if we trade Brook for a rook, that it will take a big hit in the win/lost department.

i think his point is the highest bigger might be in the 20s. i think indy at 17 is the highest we'd see.

either way im with you... you 100% deal him to anyone willing to give a first this year or in 2018

[Packers+NetsWIN]

Some Bucks fan suggested in T&S board a trade offer that I think is pretty appealling

John Henson
17th pick

for
27th pick

I would try to add Trevor Booker and Sean Kilpatrick in this offer. What do you guys think?

I say we do it in a heartbeat if Justin Patton falls all the way to the 17th

Then trade Brook Lopez to a team like Sacramento for the 10th pick... I'll even sell him low just to get another draft pick. That way we get 3 in this draft.

We can even get Mitchell move Whitehead as a 3rd string to both guard positions. Which we can then add another playmaker at the wing position or look for stretch 4.

Our team can potentially look like:

Lin / Dinwiddie / Whitehead
Redick???? / Mitchell??? /Goodwin
LeVert / Kurucs???? /McDaniel
RHJ / Muscala??? / Acy
Patton??? / Henson / Nicholson

Who's going to score the ball, though?


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Who cares who. The development team is drooling.

I like your plan but I would much rather take mirza televotic. Mirza has one less year on his contract in comparison to henson so the team can maintain cap space flexibility. And with Atkinson's style of offense, I think televotic would flourish with the green light to shoot 3 pointers. And henson average more minutes per game than teletovic did this past regular season so I think the bucks would be more amenable to trade him over henson.

Also I would not trade lopez unless it was for a top 10 pick in this year's draft or a 2018 pick from a bad team. 20 point scoring centers are extremely rare. I think everyone here is dismissing how good for an all offensive player he really is. He is great in the post, can shoot the midrange and the three, and he evens hits his free throws at a high rate for a center (as much as i'd like to have someone like Whiteside or Jordan, their free throw shooting would drive me crazy). I personally think in the eyes of teammates if it bad if you have to pull your best player in the last 2 minutes of a game because he can't hit free throws in a tight game. Lastly, everyone on here as been preaching culture and building the team up the right way. What better way to do that than to keep your best player who has consistently said he wants to be here and is willing to recruit free agents no matter if the season before he played on a playoff team or the worst team in the league. I think dedication like that would be a positive for the culture Marks is building. I understand that his defensive is bad but he is a good rim protector and surrounding him with good defenders like rhj, levert, and redick (hopefully, I think he would be a great fit and clippers might not have enough money to keep him)

But I digress, so do the trade with teletovic instead of henson. I agree with picking Patton at 17 and teletovic would fit in nicely next to him. Trade Booker for a second round pick in either the 2017 draft (euro stash) or the 2018 draft. Trade Hamilton for whatever pick anyone will offer or a large expiring. With the 22nd pick take og, Kurucs or bacon and with the second round pick take a euro stash.

This way the team looks like:

Lin / Dinwiddie / Whitehead
Redick or teodosic??? / Kilpatrick /Goodwin
LeVert / OG or Kurucs or bacon???? /McDaniel
RHJ / Teletovic / Acy
Lopez / Patton / Nicholson