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Re: And Then There Was One: Thank Nation 2. Raps pick 23rd 

Post#1761 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:42 am

LonZoBallin wrote:Kinda a good game for blow up hopes bc we need DD to have some Big games. Don't want him to be known as a season player. He played great today on the big stage. Bucks had 20 turnovers and Greek Freak played horrible.

I'm thinking DD will have more trade value than PG and maybe even JButler.

On George bc of contract. PG has one year left and many believe he wants to go to LA.

JButler it's close, I like JButler better but he only has 2 years left. Derozan has proven himself more for a longer time and has 4 years left just starting his prime. That's a lot of control! Has played on a winning team for multiple years now. I think he might have close to JButler value when all things are considered.


BK falls to #3, Josh Jackson and Fultz get picked in the top 2. Boston doesn't want a point guard with Thomas so we give them DD for bradley and Bk #3 overall?


I do not think Masai or Ainge want to play Russian roulette with who comes out on top and clobbers the other. Seriously.
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Re: And Then There Was One: Thank Nation 2. Raps pick 23rd 

Post#1762 » by HeadtopChunes » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:44 am

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Ettore Messina


Messina is interesting, hes big on running things through the post. The problem is right now I don't think Jv has the IQ or Passing ability to facilitate that. But Ibaka might.


Ibaka plus Poetl.

I can see Poetl excelling in that role he's a very high IQ player. With the right guidance he's gonna be very good.

Bebe is interesting too because in terms of passing ablitly he's probably the best big on the roster. If Bebe could stop being bullied down low he'd be a real force. Alley oop threat, top tier rim protecter great passer and decent jumper. IMO he'd be good trade bait for a team willing to develop him. Maybe for a pick or to take Carolls contract.
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Re: And Then There Was One: Thank Nation 2. Raps pick 23rd 

Post#1763 » by MavCarter » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:27 pm

Haven't really payed attention to the college season, what's the problem with harry giles? He was projected a top 5 pick but had a pretty underwhelming season
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Post#1764 » by Psubs » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:32 pm

McGregFan wrote:Haven't really payed attention to the college season, what's the problem with harry giles? He was projected a top 5 pick but had a pretty underwhelming season

Knee injury
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Post#1765 » by MavCarter » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:34 pm

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McGregFan wrote:Haven't really payed attention to the college season, what's the problem with harry giles? He was projected a top 5 pick but had a pretty underwhelming season

Knee injury


Is he injury prone? Didn't he have an ACL injury in HS too?
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Post#1766 » by S ID » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:56 pm

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McGregFan wrote:Haven't really payed attention to the college season, what's the problem with harry giles? He was projected a top 5 pick but had a pretty underwhelming season

Knee injury


Is he injury prone? Didn't he have an ACL injury in HS too?

"In June 2013, Giles suffered a torn ACL, MCL and meniscus in his left knee. Two years later, the 18-year-old partially tore his right ACL shortly after the 2015-16 season tipped off"

I would still take him.
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Post#1767 » by WeTheNorth123 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:01 pm

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Psubs wrote:Knee injury


Is he injury prone? Didn't he have an ACL injury in HS too?

"In June 2013, Giles suffered a torn ACL, MCL and meniscus in his left knee. Two years later, the 18-year-old partially tore his right ACL shortly after the 2015-16 season tipped off"

I would still take him.



i would not....i see his realistic ceiling as noah vonlegh
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Post#1768 » by S ID » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:28 pm

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Is he injury prone? Didn't he have an ACL injury in HS too?

"In June 2013, Giles suffered a torn ACL, MCL and meniscus in his left knee. Two years later, the 18-year-old partially tore his right ACL shortly after the 2015-16 season tipped off"

I would still take him.



i would not....i see his realistic ceiling as noah vonlegh

If our organization can make Caboclo who just started playing basketball when he was drafted into a competent player then they can make Giles a better player than someone who's averaging 4 points in his 3rd year.
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Post#1769 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:50 pm

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CoachJReturns wrote:I'd do it, though I don't think they would. I think they're dedicated to a full rebuild through the draft.

Not so sure about that. Cuban is extremely thankful for all Dirk has done for that franchise, and he'd try his best to give him one last shot at a ring. DD/Barnes/Dirk/Noel is quite good.

Hey, if he'd bite I'm down. That's nowhere near a championship caliber team though. Not even close.


As a Dallas fan I wouldn't mind a Demar Barnes and Noel future, but I wouldn't give up this pick for him, we have to go through a proper rebuild.

As a raptor fan, getting a pick in the 8-10 range of this draft for Demar, is not the way to go imo.
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Post#1770 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:26 am

Hamidou Diallo declared. The kid is a high prospect. He seems perfect for a team like us to groom on the 905. I'd give him a promise.

He might just be testing the waters though, and actually head to UK next season.
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Post#1771 » by CoachJReturns » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:50 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Hamidou Diallo declared. The kid is a high prospect. He seems perfect for a team like us to groom on the 905. I'd give him a promise.

He might just be testing the waters though, and actually head to UK next season.

Good option for us. If there's no movement and we stay at 23, I'd rather we take a younger guy with upside over another junior, or senior who looks like no more than a bench player. Gotta upgrade the talent somehow.
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Post#1772 » by Wally West » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:45 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Hamidou Diallo declared. The kid is a high prospect. He seems perfect for a team like us to groom on the 905. I'd give him a promise.

He might just be testing the waters though, and actually head to UK next season.

Thanks for posting. Just saw this. What were his stats in high school?
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Post#1773 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:28 am

found the guy Masai is drafting for sure.



6'8 220lbs 7'2 wingspan

looks like he's in the french pro A league
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Post#1774 » by Psubs » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:11 am

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Hamidou Diallo declared. The kid is a high prospect. He seems perfect for a team like us to groom on the 905. I'd give him a promise.

He might just be testing the waters though, and actually head to UK next season.

Good option for us. If there's no movement and we stay at 23, I'd rather we take a younger guy with upside over another junior, or senior who looks like no more than a bench player. Gotta upgrade the talent somehow.


Just keep passing on the Malcolm Brogden types. :D
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Post#1775 » by CoachJReturns » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:29 am

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Hamidou Diallo declared. The kid is a high prospect. He seems perfect for a team like us to groom on the 905. I'd give him a promise.

He might just be testing the waters though, and actually head to UK next season.

Good option for us. If there's no movement and we stay at 23, I'd rather we take a younger guy with upside over another junior, or senior who looks like no more than a bench player. Gotta upgrade the talent somehow.


Just keep passing on the Malcolm Brogden types. :D

Frankly there aren't any juniors and seniors that I'm terribly interested in taking, though I wouldn't mind Robinson who I was high on before his mediocre season. I still like his tools though. Among highly productive collegiate players, I think I like Evans as a guy with starter potential in the future.
I've been wrong before though. I think I'm typically right only 50 percent of the time with picks and with the 23rd pick I'm guessing my selections are no better than anyone else's.
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Post#1776 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:34 am

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Hamidou Diallo declared. The kid is a high prospect. He seems perfect for a team like us to groom on the 905. I'd give him a promise.

He might just be testing the waters though, and actually head to UK next season.

Good option for us. If there's no movement and we stay at 23, I'd rather we take a younger guy with upside over another junior, or senior who looks like no more than a bench player. Gotta upgrade the talent somehow.


Just keep passing on the Malcolm Brogden types. :D

First of all, you mean the Norman Powell types. Second, Powell types aren't dime a dozen. Sometimes you need to swing for the fences. Brogdon isn't leading you anywhere.
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Post#1777 » by S.W.A.N » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:00 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
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CoachJReturns wrote:Good option for us. If there's no movement and we stay at 23, I'd rather we take a younger guy with upside over another junior, or senior who looks like no more than a bench player. Gotta upgrade the talent somehow.


Just keep passing on the Malcolm Brogden types. :D

First of all, you mean the Norman Powell types. Second, Powell types aren't dime a dozen. Sometimes you need to swing for the fences. Brogdon isn't leading you anywhere.


So you want Giles.
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Post#1778 » by super_balls » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:06 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:found the guy Masai is drafting for sure.



6'8 220lbs 7'2 wingspan

looks like he's in the french pro A league


Wow, he looks real good. Masai does love the french league. Any idea of what his stats look like?
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Post#1779 » by OAKLEY_2 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:16 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
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CoachJReturns wrote:Good option for us. If there's no movement and we stay at 23, I'd rather we take a younger guy with upside over another junior, or senior who looks like no more than a bench player. Gotta upgrade the talent somehow.


Just keep passing on the Malcolm Brogden types. :D

First of all, you mean the Norman Powell types. Second, Powell types aren't dime a dozen. Sometimes you need to swing for the fences. Brogdon isn't leading you anywhere.



Projecting BPA for say freshmen at 20-23 is much harder than at 1-10. Hence why we have drafted seniors at 20(s) three times except for Bruno. To date our best pick was a senior in the second round overlooked by the rainmakers. Swinging for the fences at 23 is a fool's errand. We need to pick the the player who might range from 20-45 and ticks boxes like Powell did and then strategize how best to get them. Do we need to acquire one of Philly's second rounders to get say Thornwell who looks very much like a Norm player. Should we stash a Euro at 23 like Kurucs? Is a player from South Carolina going to be as good as players who faced California or L.A. caliber competition. I think more goes into this than scaling physical specimen's who merely appear to be athletes with potential.
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Post#1780 » by OAKLEY_2 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:19 pm

Correction seniors twice at 20 and obscure 10 year old kid from Brazil once.

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