Kristaps Porzingis WILL PLAY for Latvia in EuroBasket2017

[god shammgod]

[Capn'O]

His actions at the end of the season at least raised your eyebrow right?

Totes McGoats. They did.

I see it as twofold though. The way Jackson and (mostly) his surrogates like Rosen and Lazyeye dealt with Melo this year had to raise his eyebrows. Now, I think the better place to address it is actually in the exit meeting. Then maybe you pull some other stunt to say - "hey, if you mess with me like that there's gonna be resistance." I don't think he responded right. But if this is gonna be his team, he's gonna have to start trying to play his "juice cards."

Also, I don't think Jackson's ire would have moved to KP in the same way. KP's definitely over his head in that regard in that he doesn't really understand how Phil operates and why... but that doesn't separate him from the majority of people/players. Particularly at the onset of the relationship.

[mpharris36]

Facts.

This situation does need some smoothing over. But the way the fanbase just turned on him is redonkulous.

have a lot of people turned on him? I guess I have been ignoring them. I don't respect what he did. But I also am not an idiot to even consider trading him. The celtics could offer me both picks and I probably wouldn't do it because I think KP is that good.

we should probably wait until all the facts are in

[Oscirus]

Can't believe dudes want to trade KP.

Can't believe dudes want to keep somebody already planning his exit strategy in year 2. Who else from 2015 is acting like this much of a bitch?

Kobe already planning about his move to the lakers when he was not even in nba lul, magic to openly saying only want to go to nba if drafted by lakers, and dont forget boozer lol.

One got traded, one got drafted by his preferred team and Boozer,I believe screwed over his initial team.

[ibraheim718]

The bottom line is it takes a particular kind of person to succeed playing pro sports in New York. They have to be flatliners. We haven't had one on the basketball team for a while. Maybe kp ain't cut out for being the focal point of the franchise. That's why this draft is so important.

[Phish Tank]

KP is gonna be a Knick for a long time and you'll will like it. tbh.

Facts.

This situation does need some smoothing over. But the way the fanbase just turned on him is redonkulous.

greenie said u would turn on kp after melo left. he aint even gone yet. well damn.

Yup. Granted, she wrote the playbook. But she definitely called it.

Fans don't have to turn on him but for anyone to pretend the way he handled the end of the season was appropriate just to prevent trolls from cackling isn't good either.

He fcuked up.. twice. His situation is starting to become worrisome regarding his brothers.. in my eyes. We should be allowed to express our concern and even for the more emotional our unhappiness with what we're hearing.

Let's have a conversation in between all the greenie--shammgod bullschit. His actions at the end of the season at least raised your eyebrow right?

this and this.

[Oscirus]

Can't believe dudes want to trade KP.

Can't believe dudes want to keep somebody already planning his exit strategy in year 2. Who else from 2015 is acting like this much of a bitch?

Who else from 2015 had:

1) An owner have a former player thrown out of an arena, and then trashed him in the press.
2) A team President using his media buddy to rip the team.
3) A team President ripping the team's star player via twitter.
4) A team President ripping the team's star player at the end of year press conference.
5) A team President who won't let the coach, coach his way.
6) A team President who decided to try and contend, by making awful moves, then... maybe decided to tank? who the f' knows

I'm sure I'm missing more, but seems KP isn't acting like a bitch, he is just responding to the FO that acts like a bitch.

Letting that bitch of a FO know to shape up, or he'll be shipping out, might actually make improvements happen. We can only hope.

Except the bitch commented on none of that. As a matter of fact he likely doesn't even know why he's doing this since it since this is all coming from Janis. But if he has that much of a problem with the front office then they need to ship him out now while his value is high.

Of course the Knicks are going to **** up and hold on to him way too long.

[Oscirus]

Lavar ain't got **** on Janis. Imagine having both of those relatives on this team? The press would have a field day.

[FreeSpiritNY]

kp is not untouchable and his play and antics recently prove that. this guy can't even stay healthy a whole yr. plzz let's get off the hype train

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He honestly isn't that great, he can't defend in this league. He doesn't know how to defend the 3 point line. All he does is shoot threes. But other fans will argue he's a 7'3 unicorn. It doesn't matter how tall you are if your going to shoot and not connect at a good clip. You can be 9ft and I won't care. He either needs to shut up gain size and stop following a player who cheats on his wife. I would trade him for Top 3 pick this year. Willy is going to end up being better than him. Book it.

he can't defend in this league

Huh, that's weird
According to http://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-overall opponents shoot 5 percent worse than average when guarded by him, 11 percent worse when around 6 feet of the basket
And when KP was on the floor, our defense gave up one point less per 100 possessions than when he was on the bench
http://stats.nba.com/team/#!/1610612752/onoffcourt-advanced/?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=NET_RATING&dir=1

He doesn't know how to defend the 3 point line

And opponenets shoot 1.6 percent worse than average when guarded by him at the 3pt line
http://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-3pt

All he does is shoot threes

He attempted more than twice as many 2s as 3s, and considering he shoots 3s above league average, I have no problem with that
I bet you yell at kids to get off your lawn, too

Is that for a full season? I'll check the links when I get home? But I actually watch the games and when ever there was a bucket that needed to be stopped that would go to kps man in the corner and they would pop a three

[MartinsLusis]

idk whatever happens happens but I just want fox on this team. Once I saw him cry after he lost that sold me. He hates to lose..thats a leader we need. He has the desire skills and passion that I want here

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So you're bashing KP for calling the team out after 2 utterly shi**y seasons and saying that winning is paramount for him, and yet you want a guy who cries after a loss because he hates to lose and wants to win? Well, KP hates losing as well.

[ibraheim718]

His actions at the end of the season at least raised your eyebrow right?

Totes McGoats. They did.

I see it as twofold though. The way Jackson and (mostly) his surrogates like Rosen and Lazyeye dealt with Melo this year had to raise his eyebrows. Now, I think the better place to address it is actually in the exit meeting. Then maybe you pull some other stunt to say - "hey, if you mess with me like that there's gonna be resistance." I don't think he responded right. But if this is gonna be his team, he's gonna have to start trying to play his "juice cards."

Also, I don't think Jackson's ire would have moved to KP in the same way. KP's definitely over his head in that regard in that he doesn't really understand how Phil operates and why... but that doesn't separate him from the majority of people/players. Particularly at the onset of the relationship.

Yeah some of us new it was just Phil Jackson being Phil Jackson. Melo might have gotten a heads up from Kobe about how Phil operates through the press which might have lessened the effectiveness of what Phil tries to do which is probably why it never worked.

Porzingis needs to chill the fcuk out. And however Bat schit crazy Phil may be he still needs to respect him and not showing up to the exit meeting I found highly disrespectful. He came off as a little spoiled entitled brat.

[Capn'O]

His actions at the end of the season at least raised your eyebrow right?

Totes McGoats. They did.

I see it as twofold though. The way Jackson and (mostly) his surrogates like Rosen and Lazyeye dealt with Melo this year had to raise his eyebrows. Now, I think the better place to address it is actually in the exit meeting. Then maybe you pull some other stunt to say - "hey, if you mess with me like that there's gonna be resistance." I don't think he responded right. But if this is gonna be his team, he's gonna have to start trying to play his "juice cards."

Also, I don't think Jackson's ire would have moved to KP in the same way. KP's definitely over his head in that regard in that he doesn't really understand how Phil operates and why... but that doesn't separate him from the majority of people/players. Particularly at the onset of the relationship.

Yeah some of us new it was just Phil Jackson being Phil Jackson. Melo might have gotten a heads up from Kobe about how Phil operates through the press which might have lessened the effectiveness of what Phil tries to do which is probably why it never worked.

Porzingis needs to chill the fcuk out. And however Bat schit crazy Phil may be he still needs to respect him and not showing up to the exit meeting I found highly disrespectful. He came off as a little spoiled entitled brat.

By that same token though - for those of us that have watched Phil... I'd be VERY surprised if he gave up on him at this point unless he really is sky high on Fultz.

[Muizha]

SMH at people turning on KP. I guess the Knicks as a team has been a good reflection of its fans for the last couple of decades...

[ibraheim718]

The problem with taking advice from family is they're either going to be too hard on you or too soft. The best advice and guidance comes from someone who is not personally invested in the outcome.

[MartinsLusis]

Interesting dynamic with him and his brother. It's definitely preferable that he associates himself with family rather than bloodsuckers and hangers-on but I don't know, would prefer he be his own man more. Seems like his brother influences a lot of his training and from what I understand it's not like his brother is a pro or anything.

He was a 10 year pro in Europe. He also played for the Latvian national team a few years. He was actually quite good. Not nearly the best but had some good qualities.

[ibraheim718]

Totes McGoats. They did.

I see it as twofold though. The way Jackson and (mostly) his surrogates like Rosen and Lazyeye dealt with Melo this year had to raise his eyebrows. Now, I think the better place to address it is actually in the exit meeting. Then maybe you pull some other stunt to say - "hey, if you mess with me like that there's gonna be resistance." I don't think he responded right. But if this is gonna be his team, he's gonna have to start trying to play his "juice cards."

Also, I don't think Jackson's ire would have moved to KP in the same way. KP's definitely over his head in that regard in that he doesn't really understand how Phil operates and why... but that doesn't separate him from the majority of people/players. Particularly at the onset of the relationship.

Yeah some of us new it was just Phil Jackson being Phil Jackson. Melo might have gotten a heads up from Kobe about how Phil operates through the press which might have lessened the effectiveness of what Phil tries to do which is probably why it never worked.

Porzingis needs to chill the fcuk out. And however Bat schit crazy Phil may be he still needs to respect him and not showing up to the exit meeting I found highly disrespectful. He came off as a little spoiled entitled brat.

By that same token though - for those of us that have watched Phil... I'd be VERY surprised if he gave up on him at this point unless he really is sky high on Fultz.

Nah you don't give up on anybody not at that age with that much talent but you have to start handling him differently and it changes your projection and assessment of him even if it's just a little bit.

Look the fans saying trade him are being ridiculous.. a logical person should know that but that doesn't stop these other posters from acting like everyone is saying trade him just because they're disappointed.. you can though.

[DOT]

He honestly isn't that great, he can't defend in this league. He doesn't know how to defend the 3 point line. All he does is shoot threes. But other fans will argue he's a 7'3 unicorn. It doesn't matter how tall you are if your going to shoot and not connect at a good clip. You can be 9ft and I won't care. He either needs to shut up gain size and stop following a player who cheats on his wife. I would trade him for Top 3 pick this year. Willy is going to end up being better than him. Book it.

he can't defend in this league

Huh, that's weird
According to http://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-overall opponents shoot 5 percent worse than average when guarded by him, 11 percent worse when around 6 feet of the basket
And when KP was on the floor, our defense gave up one point less per 100 possessions than when he was on the bench
http://stats.nba.com/team/#!/1610612752/onoffcourt-advanced/?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=NET_RATING&dir=1

He doesn't know how to defend the 3 point line

And opponenets shoot 1.6 percent worse than average when guarded by him at the 3pt line
http://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-3pt

All he does is shoot threes

He attempted more than twice as many 2s as 3s, and considering he shoots 3s above league average, I have no problem with that
I bet you yell at kids to get off your lawn, too

Is that for a full season? I'll check the links when I get home? But I actually watch the games and when ever there was a bucket that needed to be stopped that would go to kps man in the corner and they would pop a three

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

[MartinsLusis]

They definitely don't think the Knicks are good lol. It's clear when a team is bad and it's fine for the players to recognize that. But it's an unusual thing to hear it repeated so freely.

If we consider the team he played on, I think he did great.

I think it was meant in a different way - he had a team with 2 ball dominant All Stars - Melo and Rose. He scored 18 ppg even despite that and also despite team freezing him out at the end of the games on many occasions.

[MartinsLusis]

So how many times should he be in the weight room a day for you to be happy? 3 times? 4 times? 10 hours? 20 hours?

I didn't say that. If you read some of the earlier posts, his bro basically told the press that he's not going to be bulking up super crazy. That's different from being in the weight room. He can work on his lower body all he wants, but his upper body will be a string bean. They're not emphasizing upper body strength as much.

I read the whole script they never mentioned specifically what his training would be. The only time I saw it mentioned was last off season. Feel free to provide me an actual link because in this presser he didn't mention strictly working on lower body. It's hard to "live in the gym" and only work on your lower body. Your body would need necessary rest days and in that "KP returns to Latvia" video he's shown lifting weights and working on his upper body.

He said that the workout plan is similar to the last summer's workout. That means first and foremost lower body strength, quickness and explosion.

[HarthorneWingo]

idk whatever happens happens but I just want fox on this team. Once I saw him cry after he lost that sold me. He hates to lose..thats a leader we need. He has the desire skills and passion that I want here

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So you're bashing KP for calling the team out after 2 utterly shi**y seasons and saying that winning is paramount for him, and yet you want a guy who cries after a loss because he hates to lose and wants to win? Well, KP hates losing as well.

I think KP's shown he's got some maturing to do. If he's frustrated with the team's progress and the "dysfunction," then you don't skip the exit interview, YOU GO TO IT and voice your concerns to management. Obviously, the Knicks don't want to see this kind of acting act by its future star player. As I've said before, I think Melo's been KP's ear a lot. Especially down the stretch when they were both sitting together whispering sweet nothings in each other's ear.