WCQF | (4) LA Clippers vs Utah Jazz (5) | UTA 3-2

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Series Prediction

Clippers in 4
5
1%
Clippers in 5
29
8%
Clippers in 6
71
20%
Clippers in 7
60
17%
Jazz in 4
10
3%
Jazz in 5
11
3%
Jazz in 6
99
28%
Jazz in 7
74
21%
 
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Re: WCQF | (4) LA Clippers vs Utah Jazz (5) | TIED 2-2 

Post#1981 » by OkcSinceSGA » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:52 am

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Not to mention that the Clippers probably never even played the Jazz at full strength during the season, we had our regular starting lineup for like 12 games?


This is the first 50 win season and playoff appearance for the Jazz in how long? Act like you got some sense man. I love the Jazz. They deserve it. But don't act like this team just won a title.

How is that acting up?

He's stating facts, Utah has been riddled with injuries all season and won 51 games nonetheless, that isn't bragging, that's a fact.

And disagree with me if you want but I firmly believe that Snyder is a better coach than Doc. Even Clippers fans agree with me, I see multiple Clippers fans calling for his head.


CP3 and Griffin each missed 23 games if you weren't aware. If your excuse is injuries you're preaching to the wrong fan base. Have you followed our team in recent years? As for Doc of course he's worse. He's never outcoached anybody in a series that I could recall. I thought he did McHale, then the 3-1 choke happened.
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Post#1982 » by Catchall » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:52 am

So Speights wasn't a big factor tonight. Scored 1 point on 0-3 from the field.

Rivers and Felton combine to go 0-7.

Crawford cooled all the way off.
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Post#1983 » by SkyHook » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:53 am

floppymoose wrote:JoeyLightYears is not a Warriors fan, btw. I assume it's obvious but just in case it isn't.


He does sound like he's channeling Joe Lacob though. :lol:
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Post#1984 » by Roscoe Sheed » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:54 am

Clippers couldn't afford poor performances by Speights and Crawford in this game. Also, some crucial calls/non-calls went against them. Hill took 4 steps before passing to Hood. The play with cp3 and Hayward should have been a jump ball and johnson shoved off with his off arm on mbah moute on his last shot
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Post#1985 » by OkcSinceSGA » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:54 am

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Else_where wrote:The thing is even Clippers fans here talk like series is over and say Jazz will be crushed in next round. Why don't you have confidence and say you can win in 7?


Because we know our team. They are mentally weak and poorly coached. Once they are down, it's pretty much over. Hell even 3-1 series leads aren't safe.

Fair enough but then they call jazz fans in here cocky when they say exactly same things as you did


No. The couple Jazz fans talking about would of been sweep etc and saying they are significantly better is what is cocky. It's not cocky to predict a Jazz win with Griffin down and a 3-2 lead+momentum now.
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Post#1986 » by JoeyLightYears » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:54 am

floppymoose wrote:JoeyLightYears is not a Warriors fan, btw. I assume it's obvious but just in case it isn't.


I am a fan of the advanced mathematics that has made this game such a joy to watch. Why watch two pointers when you can get a whole extra point with threes? It just so happens that the Dubs are the best in the world at playing "the beautifuler game" (more beautiful than the Spurs original "beautiful game" which only had like 10 threes a game instead of the 30-40 necessary to make for truly fascinating basketball). Like most current Dubs fans, I'm a Laker fan when they are good.
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Post#1987 » by Else_where » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:55 am

As a Warriors fan, i think Jazz will take one from us and another game will go down the wire
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Post#1988 » by og15 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:55 am

Else_where wrote:The thing is even Clippers fans here talk like series is over and say Jazz will be crushed in next round. Why don't you have confidence and say you can win in 7?

I can understand people's pessimism. No one trusts our complimentary players. They couldn't be trusted with two shot creators / scorers, so how can they be trusted with just one?

One man offense teams don't win in the playoffs against comparably good teams unless they can play elite defense. Clippers don't have the players to play elite defense, so we must now trust that either a guy who shoots like 37/28 in the playoffs as a Clipper in Jamal Crawford, Redick who has been shut down 4/5 games or Austin who just came back from an injury the didn't let him stay in shape are going to step up enough in both the next two games to give Paul enough support. Either that or trust that the team will figure out how to not be super small and get killed by Utah's bigger wings.

The pessimism is understandable. This is a two man team offensively, the one man version is good enough to compete with similar teams or to beat weaker teams but one player can only do so much. We all know that and we've all seen thay play out in many series'.

Even then, us as fans believing they can win means nothing. Chris Paul believes they can win and plays to an end that should get them to win, but that isn't going to make them win if others don't perform well enough on both ends.
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Post#1989 » by Ichimoku » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:55 am

I'm not a fan of any team, but happy to see that the better team is closer to win the series. Jazz are clearly a better team with Gobert and hope that will close it out in Game 6. They play a very nice basketball on both end of the floor and Clippers in my opinion play one of the most boring basketball in the last 2-3 seasons. Warriors - Jazz should be much more interesting than Warriors - LAC without Blake.

Joe Johnson and George Hill show what does experience means in the playoffs ! :)
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Post#1990 » by Ruckusmh » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:56 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:Clippers couldn't afford poor performances by Speights and Crawford in this game. Also, some crucial calls/non-calls went against them. Hill took 4 steps before passing to Hood. The play with cp3 and Hayward should have been a jump ball and johnson shoved off with his off arm on mbah moute on his last shot

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Post#1991 » by mvpshaq32 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:56 am

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Method28 wrote:Doubt it, either of these teams will get blown out by GSW

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I wouldn't doubt it, but Jazz/Warriors is going to feature some incredibly beautiful basketball. it's a must watch for hoop junkies for the offensive execution, in-game and game-to-game adjustments, and defensive schemes both teams will plan for.


Not going to get ahead of myself, but the gameplan for the Jazz in a hypothetical Warriors matchup would be to make it as ugly as possible lol. If beautiful basketball is being played in that series, the Jazz are in trouble. We are experts at mucking it up and making it a blow for blow slow paced grind.


I don't know, I watch Jazz games often for Gordon Hayward and they are like the Warriors in the sense they don't try to win on talent, but by out-executing you. Ball movement, nobody cares who scores, very strategic offensive sets, great defensive personnel.

Their defense is gritty and so are the Warriors. That part could make it ugly but it's interesting to see the chess match both teams play to make the adjustment when they figure out how the other team is defending them.
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Post#1992 » by SkyHook » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:57 am

Else_where wrote:As a Warriors fan, i think Jazz will take one from us and another game will go down the wire


While I would obviously love to watch a Jazz//Dubs series, I am counting exactly zero chickens right now. We still need one win.
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Post#1993 » by JoeyLightYears » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:57 am

Else_where wrote:As a Warriors fan, i think Jazz will take one from us and another game will go down the wire


My app says that they will get swept and never even get within 10 points after any halftime. We shall see who prevails!
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Post#1994 » by OkcSinceSGA » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:57 am

And yes, Utah is a much harder matchup for GS nowadays. Clippers have had Spurs number, so they would of been better off seeded at 3 to play SA next. Wouldn't of mattered with Blake out and Doc coaching probably.
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Post#1995 » by Else_where » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:58 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:Clippers couldn't afford poor performances by Speights and Crawford in this game. Also, some crucial calls/non-calls went against them. Hill took 4 steps before passing to Hood. The play with cp3 and Hayward should have been a jump ball and johnson shoved off with his off arm on mbah moute on his last shot

You really wanna blame this on the refs? They gave you life after life.
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Post#1996 » by MistyMountain20 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:58 am

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MistyMountain20 wrote:Serious question? If they secured the ball and scored either a two or three, they would have given themselves a chance at making it a one possession game.


chris paul, with 14 seconds left, shooting his second of two free throws, in a 4 point game, just sank the second.

maybe you could explain to him basketball strategy?


lol, someone is very hung up on this. I didn't watch the Jazz-Clippers game, but as I said before I was explaining the rational to you. I never said it was the uniform choice. Fairly obvious different teams/coaches/players will play that differently. Seems kind of dumb from the Clippers tbh, since they had no timeouts and didn't have time to get into a back and forth. But Chris Paul can never be wrong. Good call.
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Post#1997 » by TheNewEra » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:58 am

How is Doc considered a good coach when he has no pulse on Jamal Crawfords shot selection? On top of that how do you keep letting small players match up on joe johnson
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Post#1998 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:58 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:Clippers couldn't afford poor performances by Speights and Crawford in this game. Also, some crucial calls/non-calls went against them. Hill took 4 steps before passing to Hood. The play with cp3 and Hayward should have been a jump ball and johnson shoved off with his off arm on mbah moute on his last shot

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Post#1999 » by Asif16 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:58 am

Clippers are this close to blowing it up I think. I wonder if losing this series might be what gets it done.
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Post#2000 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:59 am

Asif16 wrote:Clippers are this close to blowing it up I think. I wonder if losing this series might be what gets it done.

Hopefully then CP3 comes and joins Jimmy 8-)

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