NFL Draft Discussion

[jwise44]

Stupid me planned a date with the new lady not thinking about the draft so I'm just getting home and reading about the draft

Really wanted an o lineman and to stay put (and I hope we get someone to start over Watson so we don't throw him to the wolves)

[shawn_hemp]

There was a lot of people there, and it was actually pretty nice out here tonight.

The first round is cool but the 2nd day is usually where you see the more well ran franchises separate from the pack with their moves

Picks I liked: Eagles (Derek Barnett), Falcons (Takkarist McKinley), Panthers (Christian McCafferey), New Orleans (Marshon Lattimore)

Picks I didn't really like:

Jacksonville (Leonard Fournette) - feel like he will just get met at the line of scrimmage a lot playing on the Jags. And he won't be able to run as many people over in the NFL as he did in college. Not really known as a pass catcher so he can only really help you if you can at least get him enough time to break the line of scrimmage and build up some speed to power his way to yards. The Jags should really draft some offensive lineman with the rest of their picks or I don't get this pick at all.

Chicago (Mitch Trubisky) - I really don't get the Mike Glennon signing now. And why did they move up at all? I bet SF was pulling some Kevin Costner type **** from draft day and saying that someone was gonna trade up and take Trubisky at 2 and Chicago was like "and a 3rd rounder next year!" and SF was like "yeah that'll work" and still got the guy they wanted anyway because Chicago is a dumpster fire at this point. I tried for a solid 5 minutes to try to figure out some type of world where this move makes sense in hindsight but it just never happened.

Chiefs (Patrick Mahomes II) - typical Andy Reid 1st round draft pick. Some guy that was on nobody's radar and is probably a huge reach. IDK, never even heard of this guy so I can't even comment on him, but I was kind of expecting the Chiefs to take Dalvin Cook when I found out there was a trade.

Miami (Charles Harris) - a lot of the highlights they showed to hype the guy up wasn't even that impressive. Most of the plays he made took an inordinately long amount of time before they finally concluded. You have to be able to get to the QB FAST in the NFL because the QBs are so good that the ball is coming out of their hands before the defender can even get there. And the O Lineman are all huge in the NFL, Harris seemed like he struggled to get off blocks in college, Idk at least it seemed like it. Maybe ESPN just put together a bad highlight reel for this guy idk

[Cactus Jack]

The first round is cool but the 2nd day is usually where you see the more well ran franchises separate from the pack with their moves

Hawks with 6 picks on day 2. Cleveland has like 1000 picks. Should be fun.

[RIPskaterdude]

A few thoughts:

McCaffrey to the Panthers is a pick I both love and hate. In almost every single scenario, I am generally super against picking a running back in the top 10. And the Panthers have a few positions I would have rather seen picked up with that pick. But McCaffrey is one of my favorite NCAA athletes of the past decade and I think he could be a real difference maker for Carolina. If utilized properly he could be a Rookie of the Year candidate.

I love Deshaun Watson on the Texans and I think he could make a very serious immediate impact. But they paid a STEEP price for him, and gave up a lot. If he doesn't pan out, this could hurt them big time. My money though says they'll be glad they did.

Biggest winners of day 1:

Cleveland Browns (never thought I'd say that) - Garrett was the only right choice at #1, then they were smart to trade down from 12 and got a big time guy in Peppers and a solid TE in Njoku

Washington Redskins - Even in their wildest dreams, there is no way the Redskins front office could have imagined they'd have a shot at Jonathan Allen with the 17th pick.

How are the Niners not a winner of day 1? Best draft in the 1st round imo

[bleu]

Stupid me planned a date with the new lady not thinking about the draft so I'm just getting home and reading about the draft

Really wanted an o lineman and to stay put (and I hope we get someone to start over Watson so we don't throw him to the wolves)

Haha same my man! I caught the first couple picks then went on a date, but we started with dinner and billiards at a bar that had some tv's with the draft on. So I wasn't able to pay much attention or react to the Panthers pick, but at least I was able to follow along a little bit

[bleu]

A few thoughts:

McCaffrey to the Panthers is a pick I both love and hate. In almost every single scenario, I am generally super against picking a running back in the top 10. And the Panthers have a few positions I would have rather seen picked up with that pick. But McCaffrey is one of my favorite NCAA athletes of the past decade and I think he could be a real difference maker for Carolina. If utilized properly he could be a Rookie of the Year candidate.

I love Deshaun Watson on the Texans and I think he could make a very serious immediate impact. But they paid a STEEP price for him, and gave up a lot. If he doesn't pan out, this could hurt them big time. My money though says they'll be glad they did.

Biggest winners of day 1:

Cleveland Browns (never thought I'd say that) - Garrett was the only right choice at #1, then they were smart to trade down from 12 and got a big time guy in Peppers and a solid TE in Njoku

Washington Redskins - Even in their wildest dreams, there is no way the Redskins front office could have imagined they'd have a shot at Jonathan Allen with the 17th pick.

How are the Niners not a winner of day 1? Best draft in the 1st round imo

I do love the Niners draft so far. Thomas and Foster are both huge defensive assets, that D should be pretty stout. I think we see them grab a QB tomorrow

[Cactus Jack]

A few thoughts:

McCaffrey to the Panthers is a pick I both love and hate. In almost every single scenario, I am generally super against picking a running back in the top 10. And the Panthers have a few positions I would have rather seen picked up with that pick. But McCaffrey is one of my favorite NCAA athletes of the past decade and I think he could be a real difference maker for Carolina. If utilized properly he could be a Rookie of the Year candidate.

I love Deshaun Watson on the Texans and I think he could make a very serious immediate impact. But they paid a STEEP price for him, and gave up a lot. If he doesn't pan out, this could hurt them big time. My money though says they'll be glad they did.

Biggest winners of day 1:

Cleveland Browns (never thought I'd say that) - Garrett was the only right choice at #1, then they were smart to trade down from 12 and got a big time guy in Peppers and a solid TE in Njoku

Washington Redskins - Even in their wildest dreams, there is no way the Redskins front office could have imagined they'd have a shot at Jonathan Allen with the 17th pick.

How are the Niners not a winner of day 1? Best draft in the 1st round imo

Niners have had a nice draft so far. Chicago got desperate & likely panicked with the 2/3 swap. Awful move from my pov. So, SF gets credit for pulling that deal off. Foster is a nice get too. Solid draft so far.

Very questionable moves by both KC & Houston as well. Why give up so much draft capital? Picks this year & a 2018 1st, etc. Those deals always seem to backfire on teams who are desperate for QB's.

Cleveland, SF, Buffalo are my winners on day one.

[bleu]

A few thoughts:

McCaffrey to the Panthers is a pick I both love and hate. In almost every single scenario, I am generally super against picking a running back in the top 10. And the Panthers have a few positions I would have rather seen picked up with that pick. But McCaffrey is one of my favorite NCAA athletes of the past decade and I think he could be a real difference maker for Carolina. If utilized properly he could be a Rookie of the Year candidate.

I love Deshaun Watson on the Texans and I think he could make a very serious immediate impact. But they paid a STEEP price for him, and gave up a lot. If he doesn't pan out, this could hurt them big time. My money though says they'll be glad they did.

Biggest winners of day 1:

Cleveland Browns (never thought I'd say that) - Garrett was the only right choice at #1, then they were smart to trade down from 12 and got a big time guy in Peppers and a solid TE in Njoku

Washington Redskins - Even in their wildest dreams, there is no way the Redskins front office could have imagined they'd have a shot at Jonathan Allen with the 17th pick.

How are the Niners not a winner of day 1? Best draft in the 1st round imo

Niners have had a nice draft so far. Chicago got desperate & likely panicked with the 2/3 swap. Awful move from my pov. So, SF gets credit for pulling that deal off. Foster is a nice get too. Solid draft so far.

Very questionable moves by both KC & Houston as well. Why give up so much draft capital? Picks this year & a 2018 1st, etc. Those deals always seem to backfire on teams who are desperate for QB's.

Cleveland, SF, Buffalo are my winners on day one.

KC has to be the loser IMO. They gave up a ton just to get a QB they probably could have snagged at the end of the first round. Very questionable move, though that is a good system for Mahomes

[Cactus Jack]

How are the Niners not a winner of day 1? Best draft in the 1st round imo

Niners have had a nice draft so far. Chicago got desperate & likely panicked with the 2/3 swap. Awful move from my pov. So, SF gets credit for pulling that deal off. Foster is a nice get too. Solid draft so far.

Very questionable moves by both KC & Houston as well. Why give up so much draft capital? Picks this year & a 2018 1st, etc. Those deals always seem to backfire on teams who are desperate for QB's.

Cleveland, SF, Buffalo are my winners on day one.

KC has to be the loser IMO. They gave up a ton just to get a QB they probably could have snagged at the end of the first round. Very questionable move, though that is a good system for Mahomes

Yeah, both KC & Houston thought Arizona would definitely take a QB at 13.

Chicago & KC are my biggest losers for sure.

[OsuCavsfan103]

I'm not as high on my Browns draft to be honest.

Garrett was the right choice, thank god we got that right. We F'd up big time passing on Hooker, or even Watson... but at least Hooker. He has the tools to be a machine at safety. His ballhawking skills are off the charts. He reminds me of an Ed Reed. People look at how we got Texans 1st next year, but so what. We do that all the time, and then we trade back anyhow. How do you think we had the #12 pick this year, and what do you know we trade back. We stock up time after time and then never seem to actually go in and make them worthwhile, we just keep prolonging the process.

I am not huge on Peppers in CLE. The man is a S who has poor ball hawking skills, and is a tweener. He isn't really a good coverage guy, yet he is not really fit well for LB at the 4-3. I get his accolades in college but to me he was very overrated as a defender. The hype was versatility, but that's for college. Think he was more of a mid-2nd round talent to be honest.

Was fine with the TE move up. Only gave up 4thrd and our 33rd overall to move up a few spots and grab him. Seems to be really atheltic, could be a solid TE as he is young and a bit raw.

All in all it could have been much worse, but coulda been better.

I'd give it a B

[bleu]

Niners have had a nice draft so far. Chicago got desperate & likely panicked with the 2/3 swap. Awful move from my pov. So, SF gets credit for pulling that deal off. Foster is a nice get too. Solid draft so far.

Very questionable moves by both KC & Houston as well. Why give up so much draft capital? Picks this year & a 2018 1st, etc. Those deals always seem to backfire on teams who are desperate for QB's.

Cleveland, SF, Buffalo are my winners on day one.

KC has to be the loser IMO. They gave up a ton just to get a QB they probably could have snagged at the end of the first round. Very questionable move, though that is a good system for Mahomes

Yeah, both KC & Houston thought Arizona would definitely take a QB at 13.

Chicago & KC are my biggest losers for sure.

What do you think about the Hawks? It's always kind of a bummer for a fan to trade out of the first round, takes a lot of excitement away. What do you want tomorrow?

[Cactus Jack]

KC has to be the loser IMO. They gave up a ton just to get a QB they probably could have snagged at the end of the first round. Very questionable move, though that is a good system for Mahomes

Yeah, both KC & Houston thought Arizona would definitely take a QB at 13.

Chicago & KC are my biggest losers for sure.

What do you think about the Hawks? It's always kind of a bummer for a fan to trade out of the first round, takes a lot of excitement away. What do you want tomorrow?

I actually expect them to trade their pick. They do it every year. The rumor was that they wanted Garett Bolles (OT). Once he was gone, I figured they would trade out. Picking up an extra 3rd & 4th is nice. They now have 6 picks on day 2.

I want them to pick an O-lineman (Tackle/guard & or both) & CB is also a huge need. Linebacker & WR are also legit possibilities.

[bluejerseyjinx]

You guys don't have much choice, starting to run out of cap space and $$$. Have to go cheap,

[Cactus Jack]

You guys don't have much choice, starting to run out of cap space and $$$. Have to go cheap,

The philosophy is that by acquiring more picks, you are more likely to fill more needs. Meaning better overall depth. The Patriots & Packers have this same philosophy. Trading out of the 1st round & acquiring more 2nd & 3rd round picks. It has worked pretty well for those teams as well.

[Mich3006]

I´m no draft expert (in German pay-TV we can still watch only a few college football games) but I think this year´s QB class is weak. It wouldn´t be a surprise if defensive players will be picked first, especially with guys like Garrett and Hooker

What made you a Giants fan?

I always love defense way more than offense. As I started watching NFL (2006 or so) I saw film about Lawrence Taylor and his game so that was the beginning of it... Right now in Germany the Giants fanbase is low but the general NFL interest is on the rise - bandwagon alert (a lot of Seahawks and Patriots fans...)

[Cactus Jack]

I´m no draft expert (in German pay-TV we can still watch only a few college football games) but I think this year´s QB class is weak. It wouldn´t be a surprise if defensive players will be picked first, especially with guys like Garrett and Hooker

What made you a Giants fan?

(a lot of Seahawks fans...)

[Mich3006]

What made you a Giants fan?

(a lot of Seahawks fans...)

I know you like that

You guys have a busy 2nd day upfront... and I really hope the G-men trade for an O-liner. Engram is a stud and the Giants have one of the best receiving corps in the league but you can't get the ball if your QB has 1-2 seconds to throw it. I really have doubts in next year, Giants can have a really disappointing season (no o-line, weak running game)

But let's hope for Robinson (and McMillan)

[Mich3006]

Overall I really love the Niners draft so far. Thomas and Foster are huge upgrades

[The Sparest]

I guess I am the lone fan of the Chiefs pick of Mahomes. I was hoping he would go to a place where he could have a redshirt season behind a veteran, so KC is a good landing spot for him. He has some adjustments to make to the NFL system, but he has the tools to be a very good starting QB in time.

[Otis Driftwood]

I guess I am the lone fan of the Chiefs pick of Mahomes. I was hoping he would go to a place where he could have a redshirt season behind a veteran, so KC is a good landing spot for him. He has some adjustments to make to the NFL system, but he has the tools to be a very good starting QB in time.

No your not. I loved the pick. I think he is going to be very good and the fact he can sit behind Smith and learn the game is a huge bonus for him. And having Reid as his coach is terrific. That was the perfect situation for a team to take a chance on a QB with a lot of upside.