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Re: Playoffs Game 6: Grizzlies(2-3) @ Spurs(3-2) 

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Post#142 » by SD2042 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:20 am

Game over. Season over. Well fought game and series. Not surprised this series would end in six games.
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Re: Playoffs Game 6: Grizzlies(2-3) @ Spurs(3-2) 

Post#143 » by bobobolas10 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:04 am

Cant believe how everything involving Khawi, looks like a foul. Somebody explain to me how you can defend that guy without contact...

So why we lost? time to blame....

+Troy Daniels. Useless player on O. Exposed on D.

+M.Gasol: Not about consistency, is more about he didnt show heart. It is good to put your hands up and defend you vertical, but even mills jumped over that "vertical" to score what looked like an easy jumper for him. He looked afraid to attack on LaMarcus' defense. He even made David Lee look like a decent defender.

+Bench: Selden was exposed the first games and didnt come back. Wright didnt even earned minutes. Green just made a few jumpers but never attacked the rim. He was basically a Ryan Anderson with worst shooting. Not a word about Troy. Only Harrison got better than in regular season.

+Rebounding in game 6. Fiz said in a timeout: "dont be spectators". Guess they didnt pay him attention.

+They started the series in Game 3: whether the refs messed those games or not, truth is we didnt play at all till Game 3. Start with a 0-2 deficit is a lot to take.
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Re: Playoffs Game 6: Grizzlies(2-3) @ Spurs(3-2) 

Post#144 » by -Sammy- » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:53 am

I'm just coming by to thank y'all Memphis fans for a great series and to congratulate you on a solid season and a well-fought first round. The Spurs board and I enjoyed interacting with you guys this season and I hope we can do it again next season. It's always tough when your team loses, but y'all have some great players and some great years of success ahead-- no doubt. Thanks again for everything!
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Re: Playoffs Game 6: Grizzlies(2-3) @ Spurs(3-2) 

Post#145 » by Nolan » Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:02 pm

Great series guys. It was a hard fought 6 games and it was some great basketball.

You guys have a great thing going in Memphis!
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Re: Playoffs Game 6: Grizzlies(2-3) @ Spurs(3-2) 

Post#146 » by dark-child » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:30 pm

So Glad its over. The series was just competitive enough to provide false hope in staying the course, which the Front Office is very good at. I would imagine we have the same back up point guard situation we ended the season with, because they will believe Andrew Harrison has turned the corner or will only get better. There is not enough CAP room to bring in impactful free agents so what choice do they have? Thinking outside the box is not really there strong suit.
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keeping Andrew Harrison, Jarrell Martin, and Troy Daniels = NO, NO, and NO
resigning Tony Allen = WHY?
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Re: Playoffs Game 6: Grizzlies(2-3) @ Spurs(3-2) 

Post#147 » by wco81 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:33 pm

dark-child wrote:So Glad its over. The series was just competitive enough to provide false hope in staying the course, which the Front Office is very good at. I would imagine we have the same back up point guard situation we ended the season with, because they will believe Andrew Harrison has turned the corner or will only get better. There is not enough CAP room to bring in impactful free agents so what choice do they have? Thinking outside the box is not really there strong suit.
Resigning Jamychal Green, and ZBo maybe even Vince = mistake, yes, and no
keeping Andrew Harrison, Jarrell Martin, and Troy Daniels = NO, NO, and NO
resigning Tony Allen = WHY?


Try to rebuild even if it means falling out of the playoffs?

Seems like Grizzlies have to get younger, though it may be worth keeping ZBo for the right price.

Tony Allen is up there in years too.

But the team gave huge deals to Gasol and Conley so tanking for a year or two may not be an acceptable path, since Gasol isn't getting younger at 32.

There doesn't seem to be an easy path to becoming a higher seed and being a threat to get past the first round.
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Re: Playoffs Game 6: Grizzlies(2-3) @ Spurs(3-2) 

Post#148 » by SD2042 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:00 pm

wco81 wrote:
dark-child wrote:So Glad its over. The series was just competitive enough to provide false hope in staying the course, which the Front Office is very good at. I would imagine we have the same back up point guard situation we ended the season with, because they will believe Andrew Harrison has turned the corner or will only get better. There is not enough CAP room to bring in impactful free agents so what choice do they have? Thinking outside the box is not really there strong suit.
Resigning Jamychal Green, and ZBo maybe even Vince = mistake, yes, and no
keeping Andrew Harrison, Jarrell Martin, and Troy Daniels = NO, NO, and NO
resigning Tony Allen = WHY?


Try to rebuild even if it means falling out of the playoffs?

Seems like Grizzlies have to get younger, though it may be worth keeping ZBo for the right price.

Tony Allen is up there in years too.

But the team gave huge deals to Gasol and Conley so tanking for a year or two may not be an acceptable path, since Gasol isn't getting younger at 32.

There doesn't seem to be an easy path to becoming a higher seed and being a threat to get past the first round.


With the way the roster has been shaped this whole season, it seems like they are caught in between getting younger or ride out the veterans until the wheels fall off. In some instances, the wheels have fallen off here. I do know that Zbo and Tony are well respected as Grizzlies and in the Memphis community. I can see Zbo look to comeback for at least a year or so. TA is a warrior at heart. As such he earned his respect as well. However, his style of game being athletic and possesses fierce energy and the defense he provides comes with a shelf life as well. Although TA was mentioned as willing to take a pay cut to remain a Grizzly, at what cost to his recent injuries and waning defenses will the Grizzlies be willing to pay.

A lot of questions to be answer this summer with a questionable front office to lead the way to right the ship.
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Re: Playoffs Game 6: Grizzlies(2-3) @ Spurs(3-2) 

Post#149 » by dark-child » Mon May 1, 2017 2:02 pm

SD2042 wrote:
wco81 wrote:
dark-child wrote:So Glad its over. The series was just competitive enough to provide false hope in staying the course, which the Front Office is very good at. I would imagine we have the same back up point guard situation we ended the season with, because they will believe Andrew Harrison has turned the corner or will only get better. There is not enough CAP room to bring in impactful free agents so what choice do they have? Thinking outside the box is not really there strong suit.
Resigning Jamychal Green, and ZBo maybe even Vince = mistake, yes, and no
keeping Andrew Harrison, Jarrell Martin, and Troy Daniels = NO, NO, and NO
resigning Tony Allen = WHY?


Try to rebuild even if it means falling out of the playoffs?

Seems like Grizzlies have to get younger, though it may be worth keeping ZBo for the right price.

Tony Allen is up there in years too.

But the team gave huge deals to Gasol and Conley so tanking for a year or two may not be an acceptable path, since Gasol isn't getting younger at 32.

There doesn't seem to be an easy path to becoming a higher seed and being a threat to get past the first round.


With the way the roster has been shaped this whole season, it seems like they are caught in between getting younger or ride out the veterans until the wheels fall off. In some instances, the wheels have fallen off here. I do know that Zbo and Tony are well respected as Grizzlies and in the Memphis community. I can see Zbo look to comeback for at least a year or so. TA is a warrior at heart. As such he earned his respect as well. However, his style of game being athletic and possesses fierce energy and the defense he provides comes with a shelf life as well. Although TA was mentioned as willing to take a pay cut to remain a Grizzly, at what cost to his recent injuries and waning defenses will the Grizzlies be willing to pay.

A lot of questions to be answer this summer with a questionable front office to lead the way to right the ship.


Fellas, the main reason I am not in favor of bringing the veterans back is that are more than capable through no fault of there own, BUT 40 year old Vince Carter should not be your best wing player, 35 year old Tony Allen should not be your best option at backup point guard, and ground bound, unathletic, can't guard the pick and roll ZBo should not still be your best PF, when you have drafted PF in two consecutive drafts and neither even play. The PROBLEM is clearly the front office. We have (7) players who are MARGINAL at best in terms of actually being NBA level talent on the roster which is (5) too many: Troy Daniels, James Ennis, Anrdew Harris, Wayne Seldon, Wade Baldwin, Devonta Davis, and Jarrell Martin. How can you get younger if the young can't play the game, either because a lack of minutes, or a lack of talent, or not an understanding of the game, and in some cases all three. None of the above mentioned players have a consensus on them as being NBA level talent or would be in a rotation on any other team, and in some cases would not be in the league if they were not on the Grizzlies roster. THE FRONT OFFICE IS SWINGING AND MISSING IN THE DRAFT AND IN FREE AGENCY. The owner staying away is starting to make sense, because if I was paying what he is paying I might go Nino Brown on them if I came around too.
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Re: Playoffs Game 6: Grizzlies(2-3) @ Spurs(3-2) 

Post#150 » by SD2042 » Mon May 1, 2017 4:39 pm

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SD2042 wrote:
wco81 wrote:
Try to rebuild even if it means falling out of the playoffs?

Seems like Grizzlies have to get younger, though it may be worth keeping ZBo for the right price.

Tony Allen is up there in years too.

But the team gave huge deals to Gasol and Conley so tanking for a year or two may not be an acceptable path, since Gasol isn't getting younger at 32.

There doesn't seem to be an easy path to becoming a higher seed and being a threat to get past the first round.


With the way the roster has been shaped this whole season, it seems like they are caught in between getting younger or ride out the veterans until the wheels fall off. In some instances, the wheels have fallen off here. I do know that Zbo and Tony are well respected as Grizzlies and in the Memphis community. I can see Zbo look to comeback for at least a year or so. TA is a warrior at heart. As such he earned his respect as well. However, his style of game being athletic and possesses fierce energy and the defense he provides comes with a shelf life as well. Although TA was mentioned as willing to take a pay cut to remain a Grizzly, at what cost to his recent injuries and waning defenses will the Grizzlies be willing to pay.

A lot of questions to be answer this summer with a questionable front office to lead the way to right the ship.


Fellas, the main reason I am not in favor of bringing the veterans back is that are more than capable through no fault of there own, BUT 40 year old Vince Carter should not be your best wing player, 35 year old Tony Allen should not be your best option at backup point guard, and ground bound, unathletic, can't guard the pick and roll ZBo should not still be your best PF, when you have drafted PF in two consecutive drafts and neither even play. The PROBLEM is clearly the front office. We have (7) players who are MARGINAL at best in terms of actually being NBA level talent on the roster which is (5) too many: Troy Daniels, James Ennis, Anrdew Harris, Wayne Seldon, Wade Baldwin, Devonta Davis, and Jarrell Martin. How can you get younger if the young can't play the game, either because a lack of minutes, or a lack of talent, or not an understanding of the game, and in some cases all three. None of the above mentioned players have a consensus on them as being NBA level talent or would be in a rotation on any other team, and in some cases would not be in the league if they were not on the Grizzlies roster. THE FRONT OFFICE IS SWINGING AND MISSING IN THE DRAFT AND IN FREE AGENCY. The owner staying away is starting to make sense, because if I was paying what he is paying I might go Nino Brown on them if I came around too.





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