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Joe Johnson was just what the Lakers needed last year

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Re: Joe Johnson was just what the Lakers needed last year 

Post#21 » by ALL HAIL » Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:10 pm

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Yeah, in the Chinese Basketball Association.


Hate to tell you, but he's washed. Cory Brewer is 10x better than Deng and he's a lot cheaper.

Corey Brewer is the worst player on our team. The guy is a wannabe Kobe, but with zero skills. Deng is an above average starter as a Pf. He is a good defender, and as a Pf in Miami he had a true shooting percentage of 63%. As a Sf, he was at 52%. Say whatver random BS about the money he's making, and the length of the contract. But don't ever say that he is worse than Brewer. Brewer is absolutely terrible.


did we watch the same Corey Brewer ?

This is just an example of two guys needing "moderance".

One: "Deng is washed up, ten times inferior to Corey Brewer."
Two: "Brewer is 'the worst', Deng's an above-average starter."

The truth is in between.

Brewer and Deng are BOTH quite serviceable in the proper role.

Brewer is in the perfect role. He'll play 12-15 minutes a game at most as a defensive, slashing, change of pace SF.

Most importantly though, he is the perfect guy to guard and challenge Ingram in practice, long enough and laterally quick enough to keep Ingram on his toes and old enough to know enough tricks to push the kid.

Deng "needs" to know that he will almost exclusively defend PFs. That's his role now. When he has that desired role, he'll play similar to Deng of two seasons ago.
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Re: Joe Johnson was just what the Lakers needed last year 

Post#22 » by Mirjalovic » Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:30 pm

ALL HAIL wrote:
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Princeinrevolt wrote:Corey Brewer is the worst player on our team. The guy is a wannabe Kobe, but with zero skills. Deng is an above average starter as a Pf. He is a good defender, and as a Pf in Miami he had a true shooting percentage of 63%. As a Sf, he was at 52%. Say whatver random BS about the money he's making, and the length of the contract. But don't ever say that he is worse than Brewer. Brewer is absolutely terrible.


did we watch the same Corey Brewer ?

This is just an example of two guys needing "moderance".

One: "Deng is washed up, ten times inferior to Corey Brewer."
Two: "Brewer is 'the worst', Deng's an above-average starter."

The truth is in between.

Brewer and Deng are BOTH quite serviceable in the proper role.

Brewer is in the perfect role. He'll play 12-15 minutes a game at most as a defensive, slashing, change of pace SF.

Most importantly though, he is the perfect guy to guard and challenge Ingram in practice, long enough and laterally quick enough to keep Ingram on his toes and old enough to know enough tricks to push the kid.

Deng "needs" to know that he will almost exclusively defend PFs. That's his role now. When he has that desired role, he'll play similar to Deng of two seasons ago.



no, we already have 2 younger PFs and probably will be better than current Deng in the future. Mitch didn't sign him to be Randle or Nance competitor.
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Re: Joe Johnson was just what the Lakers needed last year 

Post#23 » by larry14r » Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:45 pm

Mirjalovic wrote:
ALL HAIL wrote:
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did we watch the same Corey Brewer ?

This is just an example of two guys needing "moderance".

One: "Deng is washed up, ten times inferior to Corey Brewer."
Two: "Brewer is 'the worst', Deng's an above-average starter."

The truth is in between.

Brewer and Deng are BOTH quite serviceable in the proper role.

Brewer is in the perfect role. He'll play 12-15 minutes a game at most as a defensive, slashing, change of pace SF.

Most importantly though, he is the perfect guy to guard and challenge Ingram in practice, long enough and laterally quick enough to keep Ingram on his toes and old enough to know enough tricks to push the kid.

Deng "needs" to know that he will almost exclusively defend PFs. That's his role now. When he has that desired role, he'll play similar to Deng of two seasons ago.


i don't need moderance since i didn't say anything.

and no, we already have 2 younger PFs and probably will be better than current Deng in the future. Mitch didn't sign him to be Randle or Nance competitor.


Yeah it is to buy Ingram some time till he's ready to start.
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Re: Joe Johnson was just what the Lakers needed last year 

Post#24 » by Princeinrevolt » Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:31 pm

ALL HAIL wrote:
Mirjalovic wrote:
Princeinrevolt wrote:Corey Brewer is the worst player on our team. The guy is a wannabe Kobe, but with zero skills. Deng is an above average starter as a Pf. He is a good defender, and as a Pf in Miami he had a true shooting percentage of 63%. As a Sf, he was at 52%. Say whatver random BS about the money he's making, and the length of the contract. But don't ever say that he is worse than Brewer. Brewer is absolutely terrible.


did we watch the same Corey Brewer ?

This is just an example of two guys needing "moderance".

One: "Deng is washed up, ten times inferior to Corey Brewer."
Two: "Brewer is 'the worst', Deng's an above-average starter."

The truth is in between.

Brewer and Deng are BOTH quite serviceable in the proper role.

Brewer is in the perfect role. He'll play 12-15 minutes a game at most as a defensive, slashing, change of pace SF.

Most importantly though, he is the perfect guy to guard and challenge Ingram in practice, long enough and laterally quick enough to keep Ingram on his toes and old enough to know enough tricks to push the kid.

Deng "needs" to know that he will almost exclusively defend PFs. That's his role now. When he has that desired role, he'll play similar to Deng of two seasons ago.

On offense, he definitely is the worst. He is just chucking up shots left, right, and center. He is uncontrollable. I'd rather have Nwaba play the 12-15 minutes instead of Brewer. Nwaba is the better offensive player, and defensive player. I can't think of any player on our team that is worse than Brewer.
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Re: Joe Johnson was just what the Lakers needed last year 

Post#25 » by Mirjalovic » Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:45 pm

Princeinrevolt wrote:
ALL HAIL wrote:
Mirjalovic wrote:
did we watch the same Corey Brewer ?

This is just an example of two guys needing "moderance".

One: "Deng is washed up, ten times inferior to Corey Brewer."
Two: "Brewer is 'the worst', Deng's an above-average starter."

The truth is in between.

Brewer and Deng are BOTH quite serviceable in the proper role.

Brewer is in the perfect role. He'll play 12-15 minutes a game at most as a defensive, slashing, change of pace SF.

Most importantly though, he is the perfect guy to guard and challenge Ingram in practice, long enough and laterally quick enough to keep Ingram on his toes and old enough to know enough tricks to push the kid.

Deng "needs" to know that he will almost exclusively defend PFs. That's his role now. When he has that desired role, he'll play similar to Deng of two seasons ago.

On offense, he definitely is the worst. He is just chucking up shots left, right, and center. He is uncontrollable. I'd rather have Nwaba play the 12-15 minutes instead of Brewer. Nwaba is the better offensive player, and defensive player. I can't think of any player on our team that is worse than Brewer.


no

he not chucking whenever i watch him. You mistaken him with someone.
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Re: Joe Johnson was just what the Lakers needed last year 

Post#26 » by Princeinrevolt » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:39 pm

Mirjalovic wrote:
Princeinrevolt wrote:
ALL HAIL wrote:This is just an example of two guys needing "moderance".

One: "Deng is washed up, ten times inferior to Corey Brewer."
Two: "Brewer is 'the worst', Deng's an above-average starter."

The truth is in between.

Brewer and Deng are BOTH quite serviceable in the proper role.

Brewer is in the perfect role. He'll play 12-15 minutes a game at most as a defensive, slashing, change of pace SF.

Most importantly though, he is the perfect guy to guard and challenge Ingram in practice, long enough and laterally quick enough to keep Ingram on his toes and old enough to know enough tricks to push the kid.

Deng "needs" to know that he will almost exclusively defend PFs. That's his role now. When he has that desired role, he'll play similar to Deng of two seasons ago.

On offense, he definitely is the worst. He is just chucking up shots left, right, and center. He is uncontrollable. I'd rather have Nwaba play the 12-15 minutes instead of Brewer. Nwaba is the better offensive player, and defensive player. I can't think of any player on our team that is worse than Brewer.


no

he not chucking whenever i watch him. You mistaken him with someone.

You must not be watching then. He goes kamikaze mode into the paint, throwing up random layups.
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Re: Joe Johnson was just what the Lakers needed last year 

Post#27 » by Mirjalovic » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:46 pm

Princeinrevolt wrote:
Mirjalovic wrote:
Princeinrevolt wrote:On offense, he definitely is the worst. He is just chucking up shots left, right, and center. He is uncontrollable. I'd rather have Nwaba play the 12-15 minutes instead of Brewer. Nwaba is the better offensive player, and defensive player. I can't think of any player on our team that is worse than Brewer.


no

he not chucking whenever i watch him. You mistaken him with someone.

You must not be watching then. He goes kamikaze mode into the paint, throwing up random layups.


he shooting 65% in the paint. no problem.
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Re: Joe Johnson was just what the Lakers needed last year 

Post#28 » by MrWaffles » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:49 pm

Mirjalovic wrote:
Princeinrevolt wrote:
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Yeah, in the Chinese Basketball Association.


Hate to tell you, but he's washed. Cory Brewer is 10x better than Deng and he's a lot cheaper.

Corey Brewer is the worst player on our team. The guy is a wannabe Kobe, but with zero skills. Deng is an above average starter as a Pf. He is a good defender, and as a Pf in Miami he had a true shooting percentage of 63%. As a Sf, he was at 52%. Say whatver random BS about the money he's making, and the length of the contract. But don't ever say that he is worse than Brewer. Brewer is absolutely terrible.


did we watch the same Corey Brewer ?


Right?

The brewer I saw was active on defense, always moving, athletic, a natural slasher. Deng on the other hand is getting blown by left and right in the West. As a reminder, West basketball is different than East basketball. Just because Deng played decent at the 4 spot last year in the East doesn't mean he's a gifted 4. It was the East..

How many bricks did Deng throw up this year? Every time he shot it it was a brick. He's not a slasher anymore, he's to old for that. He's just physical and I guess a good role model for Ingram. Deng should be making no more than what PJ Tucker is.
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Re: Joe Johnson was just what the Lakers needed last year 

Post#29 » by Princeinrevolt » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:58 pm

We can agree to disagree, Brewer to me is too wild, and he can't shoot at all. Deng at least has an average 3 point shot, and if played in the right position can be very effective. People on here need to understand that we NEED shooters, it's the most important thing we need. You can't expect an offensive coach like Luke to flourish with zero shooters. Look at Brooklyn, they are a bunch of d-league players, and they ended up winning 19 times (I think). The only reason they won those games were because of their 3 point shooting. If you want this team to start winning we will have to sign at least 3-5 shooters. We don't need slashers, because with the proper spacing, any of our players can be a slashers. Is what I'm saying making sense to anyone? The reason I always have to emphasize our need for shooters, because I barely see anyone mention it.
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Re: Joe Johnson was just what the Lakers needed last year 

Post#30 » by JohnVancouver » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:09 am

I see Brewer generally out of control. Just hate the guy's game, I'm prejudiced as hell.
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