Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread

[Prokorov]

such a crappy 2 games.... and NBA sucks for not having a third late game tonite.

At least JJ Redick appears to be a goner. So far, 19 minutes and 0 points lol.

Don't want him

Why not?

43% from three this year, and led the NBA at 48% last year. and not just a shooter, he gives you 15-16 ppg and puts a ton of pressure on the defense by how he runs off screens off the ball.

[Papi_swav]

At least JJ Redick appears to be a goner. So far, 19 minutes and 0 points lol.

Don't want him

Why not?

43% from three this year, and led the NBA at 48% last year. and not just a shooter, he gives you 15-16 ppg and puts a ton of pressure on the defense by how he runs off screens off the ball.

the same reason you always bring up... "I don't want to pay a role player 20 million a season, that's too much of our cap space". Although I don't think he signs for 20 but I know there will be a team out there that will offer that to him.

Even if he gets 15 a season I just don't think he brings enough to the table. He wouldn't look as good on the Nets as he did for the Clippers in previous years. We don't have a CP3 to feed him all day or a Blake Griffin to draw double teams and attention or a Jordan to make him look better defensively.

I doubt he gives us a look anyway , I can see him on a contender. But in my opinion, i think we can find a player like him through draft or for cheaper in FA, maybe not as good of a shooter like him but someone similar.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Back to me bitching about how we don't have John Wall.

I remember during the lottery, they asked Wall where he thought he was gonna go.

And he goes "The Nets." LMAO

Its at 2:!6

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[NyCeEvO]

Back to me bitching about how we don't have John Wall.

I remember during the lottery, they asked Wall where he thought he was gonna go.

And he goes "The Nets." LMAO

Its at 2:16

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This hurts too much...daggers to the heart. We gotta stop ripping open old wounds that we're just getting over.

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[kamaze]

Back to me bitching about how we don't have John Wall.

I remember during the lottery, they asked Wall where he thought he was gonna go.

And he goes "The Nets." LMAO

Its at 2:!6

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Aaron Brooks didn't know how to tie a tie.

[Prokorov]

Don't want him

Why not?

43% from three this year, and led the NBA at 48% last year. and not just a shooter, he gives you 15-16 ppg and puts a ton of pressure on the defense by how he runs off screens off the ball.

the same reason you always bring up... "I don't want to pay a role player 20 million a season, that's too much of our cap space". Although I don't think he signs for 20 but I know there will be a team out there that will offer that to him.

Even if he gets 15 a season I just don't think he brings enough to the table. He wouldn't look as good on the Nets as he did for the Clippers in previous years. We don't have a CP3 to feed him all day or a Blake Griffin to draw double teams and attention or a Jordan to make him look better defensively.

I doubt he gives us a look anyway , I can see him on a contender. But in my opinion, i think we can find a player like him through draft or for cheaper in FA, maybe not as good of a shooter like him but someone similar.

I think we;d be the front runners for him. shooter is one of our 2 biggest needs and he is one of the few elite shooters that is also a good all round player and not just a guy you camp in the corner. i think he is more then a role player. i think when you have guys that run off screens off the ball that are automatic from deep it creates easy layups and open looks for your team.

id give him 15-20. because i think he has a big overall impact. but i can see not wanting to pay him

[MrDollarBills]

Don't want him

Why not?

43% from three this year, and led the NBA at 48% last year. and not just a shooter, he gives you 15-16 ppg and puts a ton of pressure on the defense by how he runs off screens off the ball.

the same reason you always bring up... "I don't want to pay a role player 20 million a season, that's too much of our cap space". Although I don't think he signs for 20 but I know there will be a team out there that will offer that to him.

Even if he gets 15 a season I just don't think he brings enough to the table. He wouldn't look as good on the Nets as he did for the Clippers in previous years. We don't have a CP3 to feed him all day or a Blake Griffin to draw double teams and attention or a Jordan to make him look better defensively.

I doubt he gives us a look anyway , I can see him on a contender. But in my opinion, i think we can find a player like him through draft or for cheaper in FA, maybe not as good of a shooter like him but someone similar.

agreed

[MrDollarBills]

Why not?

43% from three this year, and led the NBA at 48% last year. and not just a shooter, he gives you 15-16 ppg and puts a ton of pressure on the defense by how he runs off screens off the ball.

the same reason you always bring up... "I don't want to pay a role player 20 million a season, that's too much of our cap space". Although I don't think he signs for 20 but I know there will be a team out there that will offer that to him.

Even if he gets 15 a season I just don't think he brings enough to the table. He wouldn't look as good on the Nets as he did for the Clippers in previous years. We don't have a CP3 to feed him all day or a Blake Griffin to draw double teams and attention or a Jordan to make him look better defensively.

I doubt he gives us a look anyway , I can see him on a contender. But in my opinion, i think we can find a player like him through draft or for cheaper in FA, maybe not as good of a shooter like him but someone similar.

I think we;d be the front runners for him. shooter is one of our 2 biggest needs and he is one of the few elite shooters that is also a good all round player and not just a guy you camp in the corner. i think he is more then a role player. i think when you have guys that run off screens off the ball that are automatic from deep it creates easy layups and open looks for your team.

id give him 15-20. because i think he has a big overall impact. but i can see not wanting to pay him

You'd pay JJ Reddick 20 million dollars but would balk at paying Otto Porter anything north of 15?

I mean I know Porter is going to want the max (even though I keep watching these playoffs and questioning the sanity of anyone who caves to that demand), but I really don't see how I could justify one over the other. both will be overpaid imo

[kamaze]

How do you guys expect the team to get better if you don't want to pay players?

[MrDollarBills]

How do you guys expect the team to get better if you don't want to pay players?

I see no reason to really get that much better through spending money next season. None of these players on the market are worth signing for 25-30 a season.

[Papi_swav]

Why not?

43% from three this year, and led the NBA at 48% last year. and not just a shooter, he gives you 15-16 ppg and puts a ton of pressure on the defense by how he runs off screens off the ball.

the same reason you always bring up... "I don't want to pay a role player 20 million a season, that's too much of our cap space". Although I don't think he signs for 20 but I know there will be a team out there that will offer that to him.

Even if he gets 15 a season I just don't think he brings enough to the table. He wouldn't look as good on the Nets as he did for the Clippers in previous years. We don't have a CP3 to feed him all day or a Blake Griffin to draw double teams and attention or a Jordan to make him look better defensively.

I doubt he gives us a look anyway , I can see him on a contender. But in my opinion, i think we can find a player like him through draft or for cheaper in FA, maybe not as good of a shooter like him but someone similar.

I think we;d be the front runners for him. shooter is one of our 2 biggest needs and he is one of the few elite shooters that is also a good all round player and not just a guy you camp in the corner. i think he is more then a role player. i think when you have guys that run off screens off the ball that are automatic from deep it creates easy layups and open looks for your team.

id give him 15-20. because i think he has a big overall impact. but i can see not wanting to pay him

No way Prok, his impact is not that big and he is not an all around player. He can't create for himself or others and he doesn't take it to the hole good enough. Does he even take his guys off the dribble? He's a lights out shooter no doubt about it but he wouldn't be so lights out on this team. We don't have the star power the Clippers have. We would need to have guys setting him up the whole game. His defense isn't great either.

I'm surprise that you think we would be the front runners, playing with the Clippers, I can see him wanting to play on a contending team or with other star players. Don't really see why any vet would sign with us unless we overpay honestly and if were willing to overpay for Reddick we should be willing to overpay for Otto Porter who is a 2 way player.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Yeah I'm a big no thanks on JJ Reddick.

Why would I pay 20 million to a 30 year old who came off a terrible Playoff series?

And what impact would he have? Make us a 30 win team instead of 20?

This is how you become the Detroit Pistons.

[MrDollarBills]

Hell, honestly with a healthy Lin/Lopez, improvement from the young guys and a decent value signing or two I think we can hit 30 games without having to drop 20 mil on Reddick

we need to roll that space and bide our time. we have zero reason to spend a ton of money, that's aside from the fact that the real needle movers won't touch the Nets' money.

[Prokorov]

the same reason you always bring up... "I don't want to pay a role player 20 million a season, that's too much of our cap space". Although I don't think he signs for 20 but I know there will be a team out there that will offer that to him.

Even if he gets 15 a season I just don't think he brings enough to the table. He wouldn't look as good on the Nets as he did for the Clippers in previous years. We don't have a CP3 to feed him all day or a Blake Griffin to draw double teams and attention or a Jordan to make him look better defensively.

I doubt he gives us a look anyway , I can see him on a contender. But in my opinion, i think we can find a player like him through draft or for cheaper in FA, maybe not as good of a shooter like him but someone similar.

I think we;d be the front runners for him. shooter is one of our 2 biggest needs and he is one of the few elite shooters that is also a good all round player and not just a guy you camp in the corner. i think he is more then a role player. i think when you have guys that run off screens off the ball that are automatic from deep it creates easy layups and open looks for your team.

id give him 15-20. because i think he has a big overall impact. but i can see not wanting to pay him

You'd pay JJ Reddick 20 million dollars but would balk at paying Otto Porter anything north of 15?

I mean I know Porter is going to want the max (even though I keep watching these playoffs and questioning the sanity of anyone who caves to that demand), but I really don't see how I could justify one over the other. both will be overpaid imo

i think reddick is a much better player then porter. i view porter as a role guy and i think reddick is more then that. reddick isnt a guy who just sits on the outside for catch and shoot. he moves great off the ball which can take offenses to a new hite when you have other guys who move pass and cut. like way ray allen did for boston and kyle korver did for atlanta.

Porter to me got really overhyped. i love the fit and he is younger, but to me you max him and its a mistake. with reddick i think he has a much bigger impact. but he doesnt fit the rebuild as much so if thats the hestitancy i see that as well.

[kamaze]

Hell, honestly with a healthy Lin/Lopez, improvement from the young guys and a decent value signing or two I think we can hit 30 games without having to drop 20 mil on Reddick

we need to roll that space and bide our time. we have zero reason to spend a ton of money, that's aside from the fact that the real needle movers won't touch the Nets' money.

Yeah we do...we have a billionaire owner but I see where you're coming from.
If everyone stays healthy they can improve but injuries happen.

[Prokorov]

No way Prok, his impact is not that big and he is not an all around player. He can't create for himself or others and he doesn't take it to the hole good enough. Does he even take his guys off the dribble? He's a lights out shooter no doubt about it but he wouldn't be so lights out on this team. We don't have the star power the Clippers have. We would need to have guys setting him up the whole game. His defense isn't great either.

I disagree. i think he creates a ton of offense for others and that is really the main reason i want him here. when he is running off screens he requires the attention of 2 guys. the clippers got so many dunks with JJ coing off a baselin screen and the big steps out cause they dont want him to have space and then its a dunk for the offensive guy once the big leaves. boston and atlanta got those same dunks off korver/allen. it puts soo much pressure on the defense when they ahve to defend screens as a team OFF the ball

I'm surprise that you think we would be the front runners, playing with the Clippers, I can see him wanting to play on a contending team or with other star players. Don't really see why any vet would sign with us unless we overpay honestly and if were willing to overpay for Reddick we should be willing to overpay for Otto Porter who is a 2 way player.

only 5 or 6 teams can pay him the 20 million he will be looking for and he loves brooklyn. owns a house and 2 buisnesses here.

[Prokorov]

Hell, honestly with a healthy Lin/Lopez, improvement from the young guys and a decent value signing or two I think we can hit 30 games without having to drop 20 mil on Reddick

we need to roll that space and bide our time. we have zero reason to spend a ton of money, that's aside from the fact that the real needle movers won't touch the Nets' money.

yeah i mean if you dont think reddick moves the needle id understand. i actually think he has a pretty big impact on offensive efficiency and wins. i get he is 30, but thats how we want to play and will eventually need to find his replacment...

i want continuity... bring in reddick and look to draft the next deadeye shooter who is great moving without the ball like korver or JJ.

[kamaze]

i think reddick is a much better player then porter. i view porter as a role guy and i think reddick is more then that. reddick isnt a guy who just sits on the outside for catch and shoot. he moves great off the ball which can take offenses to a new hite when you have other guys who move pass and cut. like way ray allen did for boston and kyle korver did for atlanta.

Porter to me got really overhyped. i love the fit and he is younger, but to me you max him and its a mistake. with reddick i think he has a much bigger impact. but he doesnt fit the rebuild as much so if thats the hestitancy i see that as well.

Reddick is 32 why would he turn down a playoff team to play for a rebuilding team?

[Prokorov]

i think reddick is a much better player then porter. i view porter as a role guy and i think reddick is more then that. reddick isnt a guy who just sits on the outside for catch and shoot. he moves great off the ball which can take offenses to a new hite when you have other guys who move pass and cut. like way ray allen did for boston and kyle korver did for atlanta.

Porter to me got really overhyped. i love the fit and he is younger, but to me you max him and its a mistake. with reddick i think he has a much bigger impact. but he doesnt fit the rebuild as much so if thats the hestitancy i see that as well.

Reddick is 32 why would he turn down a playoff team to play for a rebuilding team?

to cash in on his last big contract in an area he wants to live in. Reddick isnt some guy coming off multiple max contracts. this isnt a guy who has made a ton of money. he is coming off 6 million per year and in 10 years has made just 46 million. this is his last chance to score a really big contract. i have to think that trumps winning for a shooter who can catch on with contenders until he is 40

he can ring chase when he is 36

[kamaze]

Reddick would make more staying in LA.