And Then There Was One: Thank Nation 2. Raps pick 23rd

[ash_k]

God, I just want a rebuild. I'm tired of this crap. lol. I didn't even watch the game last night because I figured there was at least a 75% chance of a loss and why ruin my night? A part of me just wants a 4 game sweep, so maybe just maybe someone in the upper brass will consider a change.

I hope someone like Ivan Rabb is still available at the draft because I'm bored out of my mind with this team.

do you trust Masai's drafting record now? I find it way too suspect to give him that opportunity to blow up the team.
We will be really in a tough spot, if we get swept (or 5 games).

Lmao what? Do you expect him to draft superstars with late first round pick/second round picks?

you probably going to say "But the Spurs did not draft them either"..
do we want to go back into that early list? like the Jokic as an example..I hope Skal stops working on his game, for our sake.

[MavCarter]

do you trust Masai's drafting record now? I find it way too suspect to give him that opportunity to blow up the team.
We will be really in a tough spot, if we get swept (or 5 games).

Lmao what? Do you expect him to draft superstars with late first round pick/second round picks?

you probably going to say "But the Spurs did not draft them either"..
do we want to go back into that early list? like the Jokic as an example..I hope Skal stops working on his game, for our sake.

Wow masai passed on skal and jokic WOAT drafter of all time bro. Everyone he's drafted is WOAT amirite?

[HeadtopChunes]

do you trust Masai's drafting record now? I find it way too suspect to give him that opportunity to blow up the team.
We will be really in a tough spot, if we get swept (or 5 games).

Lmao what? Do you expect him to draft superstars with late first round pick/second round picks?

you probably going to say "But the Spurs did not draft them either"..
do we want to go back into that early list? like the Jokic as an example..I hope Skal stops working on his game, for our sake.

Masai has been fine drafting. Bruno is the only questionable pick. Everyone else has been a good rotational player and Powell has some real potential. I trust Masais drafting ability. Skal hasn't been that great at all. I don't know what your are talking about. Jokic nobody saw coming. Not even the Nuggets which is why he was benched for so long.

[ash_k]

Lmao what? Do you expect him to draft superstars with late first round pick/second round picks?

you probably going to say "But the Spurs did not draft them either"..
do we want to go back into that early list? like the Jokic as an example..I hope Skal stops working on his game, for our sake.

Wow masai passed on skal and jokic WOAT drafter of all time bro. Everyone he's drafted is WOAT amirite?

I get it DeAndre Daniels and Game3 Legend Bruno were unbelievable prospects...over perimeter oriented 20/10-big man..
I thought he was genius, he had the players to move back into the draft (for the Giannis draft).
Anyway, his drafting record is suspect

[ash_k]

Lmao what? Do you expect him to draft superstars with late first round pick/second round picks?

you probably going to say "But the Spurs did not draft them either"..
do we want to go back into that early list? like the Jokic as an example..I hope Skal stops working on his game, for our sake.

Masai has been fine drafting. Bruno is the only questionable pick. Everyone else has been a good rotational player and Powell has some real potential. I trust Masais drafting ability. Skal hasn't been that great at all. I don't know what your are talking about. Jokic nobody saw coming. Not even the Nuggets which is why he was benched for so long.

I dont believe Jokic was drafted to rebound, he mean he was drafted! the talent was there.
About Skal, I dont know where you were, in April , late season and the potential (confirming that potential that made so many of us wanting him to be picked 9th!!!) that Skal showed.
Things like the steal of the draft , Skal Labissiere Can Be Special. were being said.

[MavCarter]

you probably going to say "But the Spurs did not draft them either"..
do we want to go back into that early list? like the Jokic as an example..I hope Skal stops working on his game, for our sake.

Wow masai passed on skal and jokic WOAT drafter of all time bro. Everyone he's drafted is WOAT amirite?

I get it DeAndre Daniels and Game3 Legend Bruno were unbelievable prospects...over perimeter oriented 20/10-big man..
I thought he was genius, he had the players to move back into the draft (for the Giannis draft).
Anyway, his drafting record is suspect

Please name me one organization in professional sports that hits on every single draft pick every year. And masai tried moving back in the 2013 draft to draft giannis this has been reported on numerous times. Some of yall are WOAT

[ash_k]

Wow masai passed on skal and jokic WOAT drafter of all time bro. Everyone he's drafted is WOAT amirite?

I get it DeAndre Daniels and Game3 Legend Bruno were unbelievable prospects...over perimeter oriented 20/10-big man..
I thought he was genius, he had the players to move back into the draft (for the Giannis draft).
Anyway, his drafting record is suspect

Please name me one organization in professional sports that hits on every single draft pick every year. And masai tried moving back in the 2013 draft to draft giannis this has been reported on numerous times. Some of yall are WOAT

as I had said ..you probably going to say "But the Spurs did not draft them either".
If his talent assessment was as good as you believe that he would have moved back into the draft to grab that future HOFer/MVP that Giannis is; we had all the players to move back into that draft. The reason he didnt because he didnt have Giannis rated that high, that's all (talent assessment).

[HeadtopChunes]

you probably going to say "But the Spurs did not draft them either"..
do we want to go back into that early list? like the Jokic as an example..I hope Skal stops working on his game, for our sake.

Masai has been fine drafting. Bruno is the only questionable pick. Everyone else has been a good rotational player and Powell has some real potential. I trust Masais drafting ability. Skal hasn't been that great at all. I don't know what your are talking about. Jokic nobody saw coming. Not even the Nuggets which is why he was benched for so long.

I dont believe Jokic was drafted to rebound, he mean he was drafted! the talent was there.
About Skal, I dont know where you were, in April , late season and the potential (confirming that potential that made so many of us wanting him to be picked 9th!!!) that Skal showed.
Things like the steal of the draft , Skal Labissiere Can Be Special. were being said.

Well maybe Skal has some developing to do and he has looked better than a 28th pick. Siakam has developed well even tho Skal has the higher celling they're about even right now. Actually Siakam has done better so far but I'd chalk that up to Skal being stuck on the Kings.

Looking back to the Poetl pick it made sense because we didn't have a backup C available. So Masai used the #9 pick to draft for need over ceiling. I don't mind that Poetl was a good pick looks very promising as a high level role player eventually. I maintain Poetl as a good pick.

So I guess you can argue that we should have taken Skal over Siakam but then at point we'd have too many young Centers on a playoff team . Also there's a reason so many teams passed on Skal the bust potential is very strong. It's too early to judge that right now. But we'll see.

Basically what I'm saying is that Masai hasn't done anything yet to lose my trust in his drafting. There some other things I don't like about Masai such as keeping Casey or signing an injured Caroll. But as of now I'm fine with the drafting.

[ash_k]

my point is Masai doesnt have the drafting record as being some kind of genius talent evalutor.
he is nowhere near a Isiah Thomas, in talent assessment.

[MavCarter]

I get it DeAndre Daniels and Game3 Legend Bruno were unbelievable prospects...over perimeter oriented 20/10-big man..
I thought he was genius, he had the players to move back into the draft (for the Giannis draft).
Anyway, his drafting record is suspect

Please name me one organization in professional sports that hits on every single draft pick every year. And masai tried moving back in the 2013 draft to draft giannis this has been reported on numerous times. Some of yall are WOAT

as I had said ..you probably going to say "But the Spurs did not draft them either".
If his talent assessment was as good as you believe that he would have moved back into the draft to grab that future HOFer/MVP that Giannis is; we had all the players to move back into that draft. The reason he didnt because he didnt have Giannis rated that high, that's all (talent assessment).

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[HeadtopChunes]

my point is Masai doesnt have the drafting record as being some kind of genius talent evalutor.
he is nowhere near a Isiah Thomas, in talent assessment.

Sure he's not amazing at it. Trades are more his thing. But I'd say hes above average in finding talent. But you said he was suspect which I disagree he's at least average. Plus shouldn't you blaming IBM Watson lol

[ash_k]

Please name me one organization in professional sports that hits on every single draft pick every year. And masai tried moving back in the 2013 draft to draft giannis this has been reported on numerous times. Some of yall are WOAT

as I had said ..you probably going to say "But the Spurs did not draft them either".
If his talent assessment was as good as you believe that he would have moved back into the draft to grab that future HOFer/MVP that Giannis is; we had all the players to move back into that draft. The reason he didnt because he didnt have Giannis rated that high, that's all (talent assessment).

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Ok, what is your point? so they liked him..but not enough to give up any signicant pieces to get him as they didnt rate him that high.
If his talent assessment was as good as you believe that he would have moved back into the draft to grab that future HOFer/MVP that Giannis is; we had all the players to move back into that draft. The reason he didnt because he didnt have Giannis rated that high, that's all (talent assessment)

[Gold Dragon]

A trade needs two GMs to agree to it. Just because we had players to trade doesn't mean there was another GM interested in trading their pick.

[MavCarter]

as I had said ..you probably going to say "But the Spurs did not draft them either".
If his talent assessment was as good as you believe that he would have moved back into the draft to grab that future HOFer/MVP that Giannis is; we had all the players to move back into that draft. The reason he didnt because he didnt have Giannis rated that high, that's all (talent assessment).

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Ok, what is your point? so they liked him..but not enough to give up any signicant pieces to get him as they didnt rate him that high.
If his talent assessment was as good as you believe that he would have moved back into the draft to grab that future HOFer/MVP that Giannis is; we had all the players to move back into that draft. The reason he didnt because he didnt have Giannis rated that high, that's all (talent assessment)

Lmao how do you know what we did/didn't offer? This was back in 2013 lowry/demar weren't even all stars at that point and we were trying to move into the lottery. It seems like you've made your mind up already though so there's no point in arguing with you. Yes masai is a terrible drafter because he couldn't trade in to the 2013 draft to draft giannis. What a brutal drafter

[Dalek]

I think Masai is either willing to take a big gamble like Giannis or Caboclo or pick a player with good advanced defensive metrics. It is usually about trying to figure out the players who best fit the system the coach is running unless you have a franchise changing prospect.

Noman Powell is his best pick because he fits the Toronto system so well. Creates his own shot, hits threes, and can defend well. Siakam looks promising as well although his offensive ceiling looks limited.

That said he has missed out on some interesting bigs throughout his tenure in Toronto: Jokic, Nurkic, Capela, Ivica Zubac, Ante Zizic to name a few. Most of those guys are in Europe or were from European teams. I know he is obviously making scouting trips out there, but I wonder why he missed so many opportunities. He drafted Poeltl who is solid, but many of the other guys like Zubac and Zizic may be better long-term.

I think he focuses too much on defense when the league is about pace and space offense. The next pick has to add better versatility. I'd love Draymond Green type of pick. A do it all SF/PF who is a leader.

[ash_k]

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Ok, what is your point? so they liked him..but not enough to give up any signicant pieces to get him as they didnt rate him that high.
If his talent assessment was as good as you believe that he would have moved back into the draft to grab that future HOFer/MVP that Giannis is; we had all the players to move back into that draft. The reason he didnt because he didnt have Giannis rated that high, that's all (talent assessment)

Lmao how do you know what we did/didn't offer? This was back in 2013 lowry/demar weren't even all stars at that point and we were trying to move into the lottery. It seems like you've made your mind up already though so there's no point in arguing with you. Yes masai is a terrible drafter because he couldn't trade in to the 2013 draft to draft giannis. What a brutal drafter

Yes of course, it is the only suspect choice he has made. ..the only one hence he is a brutal drafter/Talent evaluator...yup, the only poor choice he has made.
As a reminder, Giannis wasnt drafted 5th..he was drafted 15th. All-Star-to-be Kyle cost us a 12th pick (eventually became 12th).
if his talent assessement was as good as you make it sound to be that the players were there to grab a late lotto pick to draft Giannis. But he didnt rate him that high like he rated guys like Bruno and DeAndre Daniels higher than Rodney Hood, Jokic, Clarkson, Dwight Powell, Grant..Siakam higher than Skal...let's hope that Thon was just pretending to be a KG-like clone for a couple of games

[Psubs]

I think he focuses too much on defense when the league is about pace and space offense. The next pick has to add better versatility. I'd love Draymond Green type of pick. A do it all SF/PF who is a leader.

Too bad Miles Bridges is going back to Michigan State.

Damn, also Villanova's Mikal Bridges going back to school.

Even in limited minutes a SF that shoots 70% FG, 40% 3pt and 90%FT while gets 4.5 rebs, 2 ast, 1.7stls and 0.9 blks would get a 1st round promise in the early 20's for sure.

[OAKLEY_2]

Masai has been fine drafting. Bruno is the only questionable pick. Everyone else has been a good rotational player and Powell has some real potential. I trust Masais drafting ability. Skal hasn't been that great at all. I don't know what your are talking about. Jokic nobody saw coming. Not even the Nuggets which is why he was benched for so long.

I dont believe Jokic was drafted to rebound, he mean he was drafted! the talent was there.
About Skal, I dont know where you were, in April , late season and the potential (confirming that potential that made so many of us wanting him to be picked 9th!!!) that Skal showed.
Things like the steal of the draft , Skal Labissiere Can Be Special. were being said.

Well maybe Skal has some developing to do and he has looked better than a 28th pick. Siakam has developed well even tho Skal has the higher celling they're about even right now. Actually Siakam has done better so far but I'd chalk that up to Skal being stuck on the Kings.

Looking back to the Poetl pick it made sense because we didn't have a backup C available. So Masai used the #9 pick to draft for need over ceiling. I don't mind that Poetl was a good pick looks very promising as a high level role player eventually. I maintain Poetl as a good pick.

So I guess you can argue that we should have taken Skal over Siakam but then at point we'd have too many young Centers on a playoff team . Also there's a reason so many teams passed on Skal the bust potential is very strong. It's too early to judge that right now. But we'll see.

Basically what I'm saying is that Masai hasn't done anything yet to lose my trust in his drafting. There some other things I don't like about Masai such as keeping Casey or signing an injured Caroll. But as of now I'm fine with the drafting.

No Poetl was hands down BPA. Pay attention.

[HeadtopChunes]

I dont believe Jokic was drafted to rebound, he mean he was drafted! the talent was there.
About Skal, I dont know where you were, in April , late season and the potential (confirming that potential that made so many of us wanting him to be picked 9th!!!) that Skal showed.
Things like the steal of the draft , Skal Labissiere Can Be Special. were being said.

Well maybe Skal has some developing to do and he has looked better than a 28th pick. Siakam has developed well even tho Skal has the higher celling they're about even right now. Actually Siakam has done better so far but I'd chalk that up to Skal being stuck on the Kings.

Looking back to the Poetl pick it made sense because we didn't have a backup C available. So Masai used the #9 pick to draft for need over ceiling. I don't mind that Poetl was a good pick looks very promising as a high level role player eventually. I maintain Poetl as a good pick.

So I guess you can argue that we should have taken Skal over Siakam but then at point we'd have too many young Centers on a playoff team . Also there's a reason so many teams passed on Skal the bust potential is very strong. It's too early to judge that right now. But we'll see.

Basically what I'm saying is that Masai hasn't done anything yet to lose my trust in his drafting. There some other things I don't like about Masai such as keeping Casey or signing an injured Caroll. But as of now I'm fine with the drafting.

No Poetl was hands down BPA. Pay attention.

Poetl was seen as the guy with the higher floor but lower celing. Which is what I meant by BPA.

[HeadtopChunes]

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What do we know about this guy? Apparently, he is taller and more athletic than Giannis? Supposedly more talented too. He turns 19 this year but hasn't declared.