NBA 2017 Draft Prospects Thread

pickIBL · Post #441 » by **pickIBL** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:15 pm

Deonte burton should be one of the two jazz designated players btw.

pickIBL · Post #442 » by **pickIBL** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:16 pm

If nader is draft worthy well burton is a much better player

Hoops Addict · Post #443 » by **Hoops Addict** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:16 pm

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/hamidou-diallo

Not exceptionally tall, but has a gigantic plus-seven wingspan that allows him to play significantly bigger than his height. Frame has continued to fill out since the last time we saw him -One of the best athletes in high school basketball. Has great quickness and is incredibly explosive around the rim. -Extremely effective in transition. Very difficult to contain in the open floor. -Can straight line attack with a very quick first step -Doesn't shy away from contact. Takes ball strong to the basket, drawing plenty of fouls in the process -Shooting mechanics don't look terrible. Gets good rotation. Comes out of hand decently. Jumper doesn't appear to be broken -High energy wing player who flies around defensively and crashes the glass on both ends of the floor with great purpose. Shows really nice anticipation skills getting in the passing lanes. Could be a terror locking down point and shooting guards with his length and quickness. WEAKNESSES -Measured just 6'3 ¼ without shoes last summer -Struggles to make shots consistently. Release is a little slow due to windup and ball-dip. Mechanics don't look bad, but airballed quite a few jumpers in Colorado Springs. 8/48 (17%) from beyond the arc in the EYBL this season. Only shooting 64% from the free throw line. -Advanced ball-handling skills are still a work in progress in the half-court. Doesn't change directions or speeds very well. Struggles to react to help defenses at times. -Not a great passer. Doesn't have an exceptional feel for the game. Can get very wild at times. Committed more turnovers (41) than assists (33) in the EYBL this season thus far (16 games). OUTLOOK Highly rated shooting guard prospect who continues to make strides with his frame and skill-level. Tremendous athlete who plays with a very high intensity level. Will need to refine his jump-shot, ball-handling and passing ability, but has significant potential with the strong foundation he already brings to the table. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Hamidou-Diallo-90256/ ©DraftExpress

Hoops Addict · Post #444 » by **Hoops Addict** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:22 pm

Diallo at 25 for sure.
Same with Adebayo-

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Bam-Adebayo-72747/

sipclip · Post #445 » by **sipclip** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:09 am

Man it would be incredible if Draft Express's mock was close to being accurate. The idea of being able to grab 2 of Leaf, Bam and Diallo with our 1sts would be incredible. That isn't even counting the possibility of Frank Jackson maybe being there. This is definitely one of those drafts that I would do everything I could to add another late 1st or early 2nd rd pick to take advantage of the abundance of talent. With rosters now expanding to 17 you can now afford to have extra young players on the roster to send to the dleague. One team in particular that we should be talking to is the magic. They have 25, 33 and 35. This is one of those dream drafts that we can stock up our stable of young players so that we can be prepared for salary cap hell in a few years.

Catchall · Post #446 » by **Catchall** » Wed May 3, 2017 8:34 pm

There are now several guys who would be good picks at #24. If Diallo or Frank Jackson is there, they probably have the most upside. The Jazz need to keep adding athleticism and guys who can create off the dribble. Our PG position is still in doubt, given that Hill may walk, Mack is likely gone and Exum is playing more at the 2. I really think the Jazz will take a guard and a big in the first round.

Rodions Kurucs is a bit of a sleeper, but also worthy at #24. He's like a 6'8" version of Dario Saric. He can do just about everything-- create at the top of the circle, make drives and finish, and shoot with a quick release. He's also more athletic than Saric and can get above the rim pretty easily.

I'm cooling on Luke Kennard. He doesn't look big or quick enough to survive in a game with the length and athleticism that the Warriors bring to the table.

Catchall · Post #447 » by **Catchall** » Wed May 3, 2017 9:32 pm

How about Diallo or Kurucs at #24, Bolden at #30 and a back-up 5 (Bryant or Motely) at #42?

sipclip · Post #448 » by **sipclip** » Thu May 4, 2017 3:25 am

I'm not opposed to Bolden at 30 but if a player like Bam or Pasecniks is around then I would take them and try to get Bolden later.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #449 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Fri May 5, 2017 3:50 am

sipclip wrote:I'm not opposed to Bolden at 30 but if a player like Bam or Pasecniks is around then I would take them and try to get Bolden later.

I really like his game. I'm not sure why his stock has seemingly continued to drop.

Kuzma hired an agent so he's officially all in. He's a potential late second round guy for the Jazz. LJ Peak also gave an interesting interview recently in which he talked about wanting to be a defensive stopper in the NBA. He's kind of one of those sleeper picks in this draft. He has all the tools to make it in the league, and if he has that defense first mindset, he'd be worth taking a gamble on.

dr0welf · Post #450 » by **dr0welf** » Sat May 6, 2017 2:05 am

Catchall wrote:How about Diallo or Kurucs at #24, Bolden at #30 and a back-up 5 (Bryant or Motely) at #42?

I think Motley would be a good pick up at #42. He's green especially on defense, but has all the tools to be good on both sides of the ball. If he could be a back up PF could he play with Gobert? I expect Motley to go sooner then projected after workouts.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #451 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Sat May 6, 2017 3:53 am

dr0welf wrote:
Catchall wrote:How about Diallo or Kurucs at #24, Bolden at #30 and a back-up 5 (Bryant or Motely) at #42?

I think Motley would be a good pick up at #42. He's green especially on defense, but has all the tools to be good on both sides of the ball. If he could be a back up PF could he play with Gobert? I expect Motley to go sooner then projected after workouts.

Ya, I agree. I'm surprised that Motley has been projected so low lately. I doubt he's there at 42... and if he is, I'd be shocked and ecstatic to take him there.

stitches · Post #452 » by **stitches** » Sat May 6, 2017 10:46 am

I'm not a Motley fan.I have others I'd rather take in the first.

stitches · Post #453 » by **stitches** » Sat May 6, 2017 3:54 pm

It's weird how little attention I've paid to the pre-draft process with the Jazz being involved in the playoffs. I love it! Turns out the combine is next week.

I need to start watching players in our range next couple of weeks. Unless we shock the world!

PS I am listening to a basketball insiders podcast on the draft. What an abomination of a podcast that has turned into. Who pays those people to give opinions on basketball? Lonzo Ball might go before Fultz? LOLOLOL. He needs to knock out a woman on video tape or kill somebody to not go no.1. I think I'd draft him no. 1 even if he tears his ACL tomorrow. One of their analysts has him at no. 3 :crazy:

DeAaron Fox fits with the 76ers? WTF are you smoking? Then start with the names... damn, this is your freaking job, how hard is it to learn 5 tricky names? Giles(with hard G)? Obanaby? Lorry? Seriously?

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #454 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Sun May 7, 2017 5:43 am

stitches wrote:I'm not a Motley fan.I have others I'd rather take in the first.

I wouldn't take him in the first, but to get him in the second... I think that'd be a great option to go (depending on who we take in the first). He's got a lot of the tools needed to be successful in the league.

Post #455 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Sun May 7, 2017 11:57 am

I didn't get to watch a lot of college ball this season, so I'd love some insight. From what I did see, Lonzo Ball didn't impress me too much. He's a great passer and he's long, but I don't see what the hype is all about. He's got a funky shot and he's not very athletic, and will have massive problems getting by players and create his own shot in the NBA, imho. And if he won't be able to collapse the defense, it will make it harder for him to create good looks for his teammates at the next level. Anyone care to educate me?

stitches · Post #456 » by **stitches** » Sun May 7, 2017 3:52 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:I didn't get to watch a lot of college ball this season, so I'd love some insight. From what I did see, Lonzo Ball didn't impress me too much. He's a great passer and he's long, but I don't see what the hype is all about. He's got a funky shot and he's not very athletic, and will have massive problems getting by players and create his own shot in the NBA, imho. And if he won't be able to collapse the defense, it will make it harder for him to create good looks for his teammates at the next level. Anyone care to educate me?

You are not far off, IMO. The thing you might be understating is his passing and vision. He's not just a great passer. He might be the best passer we've seen come out of college since... I really don't know when. I can't think of who I'd compare him to? Jason Kidd? The rest I'm all with you - his shot is funky and it falls BUT I can't imagine him being able to get his shot off in the league off the dribble. He has range on it on the catch though. He also doesn't beat his man off the dribble and doesn't go all the way to the rim a lot. He has potential on D, because of vision and understanding of what teams are looking to achieve and he can be pest in passing lanes. I wouldn't call him "not very athletic" though. I'd say he's not elite athlete but he has plenty of athleticism... he finishes alleyoops in transition and in halfcourt without much problem. The thing he's best at is catching the ball on rebound and pushing it forward. It's really beautiful to watch. It creates a ton of transition opportunities, early mismatches and early shot clock opportunities.

pickIBL · Post #457 » by **pickIBL** » Sun May 7, 2017 7:13 pm

People are definitely rooting for him to fail because of his dad. Jeanne is the freak high ceiling guy outside the lotto this year. De Paula and Monte Morris could interest later in the draft for another PG swing.

stitches · Post #458 » by **stitches** » Sun May 7, 2017 7:14 pm

pickIBL wrote:People are definitely rooting for him to fail because of his dad. Jeanne is the freak high ceiling guy outside the lotto this year. De Paula and Monte Morris could interest later in the draft for another PG swing.

Have you watched Diallo? What do you think about him?

pickIBL · Post #459 » by **pickIBL** » Sun May 7, 2017 7:18 pm

stitches wrote:
pickIBL wrote:People are definitely rooting for him to fail because of his dad. Jeanne is the freak high ceiling guy outside the lotto this year. De Paula and Monte Morris could interest later in the draft for another PG swing.

Have you watched Diallo? What do you think about him?

Little, and I put little stock in AAU ball. Jeanne is playing Pro A and Pro B France. Even Dante we were going off Hoops Summit and U19 (a little less worse than AAU)

This guy we got a non shooter 2 guard. Who am I to say he can't develop, but damn play some real ball. You work him out. That's all you can do.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #460 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Mon May 8, 2017 3:01 am

stitches wrote:
pickIBL wrote:People are definitely rooting for him to fail because of his dad. Jeanne is the freak high ceiling guy outside the lotto this year. De Paula and Monte Morris could interest later in the draft for another PG swing.

Have you watched Diallo? What do you think about him?

I've been watching a lot of the tape that's out there on Diallo.

Looks like he has the build and athletic ability to be a legit starting NBA 2 guard and has plenty of potential to be a star one day. He's 6'5" with a 6'10" wingspan at the young age of 19 (barely turns 19 at the time of the draft). He's only weighing in at 188 pounds (last official weight) but his frame is going to be more than capable of packing on weight as his body continues to mature. He's explosive. He can get on top of the rim with ease and his length only adds to that ability. He might also add some more height as he continues to grow (reminder: he's only 19). From what I've seen and read, it seems like he's an aggressive player who isn't afraid to make and take contact. I've also read that he gives good effort on defense. From the limited numbers we have on him, his shot is clearly one of the weak spots in his game, but in interviews, he seems to be aware of this and dedicated to improving it. In the film we have on him, his shot mechanics look good enough. Nothing too crazy or funky going on, so it's surprising that he doesn't shoot the ball better. If anything, it looks like his footwork is inconsistent and can get off balance at times. Often times, he's shown floating one way or the other on his shots. Fading away, fading sideways, etc. This should be easy enough to remedy. He has the quickness to get to where he wants to on the floor, but his ball handling isn't up to snuff to match his athletic ability. I've only seen him implement fairly simple and basic ball handling moves to get to spots on the floor and it's something he'll need to improve on so he can better attack players off the dribble and in isolation.

I dunno... he's super intriguing. If he's there at 24, I'd be ecstatic to pick him up. Has top 10 in terms of athletic ability and physical profile. Seems like a good kid, and he's still really young. He'd be a great pick to stash in the D-league and develop. I think with our coaching staff, he could really turn out to be something special. He needs to the right situation though since patience will be required. Can't draft him thinking he should contribute immediately.