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Post#581 » by dirkforpres » Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:14 pm

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Pinkyring wrote:I had a dream last night we're getting the second pick and taking lonzo ball. Lakers win the lottery and take fultz book it


Pretty sure we would take Jackson, but nothing wrong with Lonzo.. he will be good in the NBA. You might have to deal with Lavar, but him and Mark Cuban can be loudmouth dumbasses together in harmony



I've been thinking, could you imagine Lavar and Cubes together? The NBA world will explode


Didn't Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith have a show together at one point? Ugh.
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Post#582 » by Darren » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:05 pm

I am somehow interested in Wes, 2017 and 2019 first for Jimmy Butler if we miss the top three pick.
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Post#583 » by Darren » Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:15 pm

Obviously, Fultz is my pick like everyone else. But if we're ending up with the 9th pick, the choice should be between Lonzo Ball, Dennis Smith J. and Frank Ntilikina. I don't have problem with any of them. All of them should be able to start by the end of the year. It's bizarre to think RC will play a rookie. But RC does have a history working well with efficient, high IQ, athletic freak with defensive instincts and energy. As long as work ethics is not an issue, I don't see how any of them fail to hit the starting lineup pretty soon. Recent example is the Hawks which rolls with the German Rondo with great success. I don't want us to waste our time on CP3 and Teague. By the way, I think all three rookies are better than Teague who're about to turn 29 on boated contract. I am fine with a trade for Rubio, though. I am also okay with Bledsoe if we can't pick a PG we wanted.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft 

Post#584 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:39 pm

Darren wrote:I am somehow interested in Wes, 2017 and 2019 first for Jimmy Butler if we miss the top three pick.


Darren,

You have to ask yourself why the other team would make trades too, not just Dallas. And Chicago never remotely considers this offer because its insulting.
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Post#585 » by SOUNDCHASER » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:00 pm

I would prefer Ntilikina over Rubio for the shot he has a greater upside on defense and shooting. those are major bonuses to the needed passing a PG offers. if that is if he is who falls to us and it is what I see happening. Some think Markannen is off the board before we pick and if so that makes it easier to pick Frank. Smith was rated number 2 or at worse 3rd behind Fultz earlier in the year so I doubt he falls further as some suggest. He is smaller than the others but he has skills.

Isaac is my favorite big for overall skills but if we see Tacko Fall 7'6" and Isaac Haas 7'2" (purdue) come out this season instead of next then the 2nd round may be interesting.

Trading to grab a 2nd round pick is worth looking at and will be tougher to do if they do come out but they may go earlier than the 2nd given the lack of true centers in this draft. With Mejri and Hammons behind Noel we are fairly solid at center especially if Hammons improves in his 2nd season. Taking on another development project at center is probably not as needed but its an option. I say that thinking that Hammons could become a stretch 4.
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Post#587 » by 2011Champs » Mon May 1, 2017 9:06 am

I have a really bad feeling Mavs screw up and draft a total bust.
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Post#588 » by Darren » Wed May 3, 2017 7:48 am

2011Champs wrote:I have a really bad feeling Mavs screw up and draft a total bust.


I am more optimistic. It seems as if the Mavs has done tons of researches and scout talents heavily already. To draft or to trade, I believe I can care less about it. And they run the team as if they'd land the top pick anyway. So they care much less about tanking. Wishful thinking is they would draft Fultz, whom I consider a new D-Wade. If they don't want any bust, they should have tanked once they have traded for Noel.
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Post#590 » by HotrodBeaubois » Thu May 4, 2017 5:43 am

Darren wrote:I am somehow interested in Wes, 2017 and 2019 first for Jimmy Butler if we miss the top three pick.
Pass ....Not that Jimmy isn't a great player but by the time we are a contender he will be breaking down like Matthews ....Give me the pick and hope for the best ...Actually the Mavs should use this deep draft to their advantage and try to move up by adding a Top 10 protected 2018 pick

Minnesota 6th or 7th pick if someone moves into the Top 3 for #9 or 10 + 2018 Top 10 protected 1st
Orlando 5th or 6th pick if someone moves into the Top 3 for #9 or 10 + 2018 Top 10 protected 1st
Philly if someone moves us and they get #4 and 5 so #5 for #9 or 10 + 2018 Top 10 protected 1st

I'm guessing the Dallas 2018 1st falls somewhere between 13-16 in a weaker draft so lets jump up and grab a franchise changer this year
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft 

Post#591 » by bwgood77 » Fri May 5, 2017 8:50 pm

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Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona: Marrkanen is a modern-day stretch-4 who shot 42.3 percent from 3-point range this season. It's hard to imagine him slipping outside of the top 10 and, frankly, I won't be surprised if he ends up going in the top five. Either way, wouldn't it be cool to watch him work under Dirk Nowitzki for a year or two?


There is a whole first round mock here put up a couple hours ago here from Gary Parrish... http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2017-nba-mock-draft-jazz-could-snag-kentuckys-none-and-done-diallo/
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Post#592 » by Lord Cuban » Fri May 5, 2017 9:48 pm

05/05/2017 Mock Drafts (Mavericks):

DraftExpress: Dennis Smith Jr., PG, NC State | Freshman
ESPN: Frank Ntilikina, PG, France | 18
Bleacher Report (JONATHAN WASSERMAN): Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
Bleacher Report (MIKE CHIARI): Dennis Smith Jr., PG, NC State | Freshman
NBADraft.Net: Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
Sports illustrated: Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
CBS Sports: Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
Tankathon: Frank Ntilikina, PG, France | 18
Mynbadraft.com: Frank Ntilikina, PG, France | 18
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft 

Post#593 » by Texas Chuck » Fri May 5, 2017 11:58 pm

Lord Cuban wrote:05/05/2017 Mock Drafts (Mavericks):

DraftExpress: Dennis Smith Jr., PG, NC State | Freshman
ESPN: Frank Ntilikina, PG, France | 18
Bleacher Report (JONATHAN WASSERMAN): Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
Bleacher Report (MIKE CHIARI): Dennis Smith Jr., PG, NC State | Freshman
NBADraft.Net: Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
Sports illustrated: Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
CBS Sports: Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
Tankathon: Frank Ntilikina, PG, France | 18
Mynbadraft.com: Frank Ntilikina, PG, France | 18


Thanks for compiling these!

Looks like people are thinking the same things. And if these are the options, its why I don't hate trading the pick for a young guy already in the NBA or even trading back a handful of picks to get another asset. Not excited about any of these guys.
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Post#594 » by dirkforpres » Sat May 6, 2017 3:41 am

Lord Cuban wrote:05/05/2017 Mock Drafts (Mavericks):

DraftExpress: Dennis Smith Jr., PG, NC State | Freshman
ESPN: Frank Ntilikina, PG, France | 18
Bleacher Report (JONATHAN WASSERMAN): Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
Bleacher Report (MIKE CHIARI): Dennis Smith Jr., PG, NC State | Freshman
NBADraft.Net: Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
Sports illustrated: Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
CBS Sports: Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
Tankathon: Frank Ntilikina, PG, France | 18
Mynbadraft.com: Frank Ntilikina, PG, France | 18


Not particularly a Ntilikina fan, but I would be fine with Markkanen or Smith.
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Post#595 » by Mr B » Sat May 6, 2017 5:01 pm

What are the chances Mavs could trade pick with Minn at 6? Would Seth be enough for them to move from 6 to 9?

Mavs could then draft Dennis Smith at 6.
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Post#596 » by dirkforpres » Sat May 6, 2017 5:04 pm

Mr B wrote:What are the chances Mavs could trade pick with Minn at 6? Would Seth be enough for them to move from 6 to 9?

Mavs could then draft Dennis Smith at 6.


2 problems with that... first is that Seth probably isn't enough to move that far up.. Also, we shouldn't have to trade up to get Smith. Odds are he will be available at 8 or 9 anyway
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Post#597 » by Mr B » Sat May 6, 2017 5:15 pm

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Mr B wrote:What are the chances Mavs could trade pick with Minn at 6? Would Seth be enough for them to move from 6 to 9?

Mavs could then draft Dennis Smith at 6.


2 problems with that... first is that Seth probably isn't enough to move that far up.. Also, we shouldn't have to trade up to get Smith. Odds are he will be available at 8 or 9 anyway


My concern is that Smith won't be there at 9. The Mavs desperately need a PG with star potential. I think Smith has that. Do you happen to know what are some of the Wolves worst contracts? Or if they don't want to take on a bad contract (considering they already have Wes') I wonder if they'd be will in to take Seth and next' year's 1st (top 10 protected) to move down to 9?
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Post#598 » by dirkforpres » Sat May 6, 2017 5:24 pm

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Mr B wrote:What are the chances Mavs could trade pick with Minn at 6? Would Seth be enough for them to move from 6 to 9?

Mavs could then draft Dennis Smith at 6.


2 problems with that... first is that Seth probably isn't enough to move that far up.. Also, we shouldn't have to trade up to get Smith. Odds are he will be available at 8 or 9 anyway


My concern is that Smith won't be there at 9. The Mavs desperately need a PG with star potential. I think Smith has that. Do you happen to know what are some of the Wolves worst contracts? Or if they don't want to take on a bad contract (considering they already have Wes') I wonder if they'd be will in to take Seth and next' year's 1st (top 10 protected) to move down to 9?


Pekovic and Rubio are their worst contracts...

Wolves won't be drafting another PG, especially with Rubio, Dunn, and Lavine on the roster-- so Smith won't be gone with pick 6.

Knicks fans seem pretty high on Monk, so I'm betting he goes at 7..

Kings will most likely be our only threat to steal Smith, so id be ok with the front office trying to work a deal to swap picks (maybe with another second rounder attached)

It won't happen though... by all accounts, Dallas will happily take Ntilikina if he's available.. Hes growing on me a little more too, based off of what I've been reading.
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Post#599 » by bobsquad » Sat May 6, 2017 5:27 pm

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Lord Cuban wrote:05/05/2017 Mock Drafts (Mavericks):

DraftExpress: Dennis Smith Jr., PG, NC State | Freshman
ESPN: Frank Ntilikina, PG, France | 18
Bleacher Report (JONATHAN WASSERMAN): Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
Bleacher Report (MIKE CHIARI): Dennis Smith Jr., PG, NC State | Freshman
NBADraft.Net: Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
Sports illustrated: Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
CBS Sports: Lauri Markkanen, PF, Arizona | Freshman
Tankathon: Frank Ntilikina, PG, France | 18
Mynbadraft.com: Frank Ntilikina, PG, France | 18


Thanks for compiling these!

Looks like people are thinking the same things. And if these are the options, its why I don't hate trading the pick for a young guy already in the NBA or even trading back a handful of picks to get another asset. Not excited about any of these guys.

Right now it's all speculation, and based on people's perceptions of the Mavs it's going to be a foreign guy. Kind of the way that people blindly mock no-name foreign guys to the Spurs, and then the Spurs go out and draft some different no-name foreign guy.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft 

Post#600 » by Texas Chuck » Sat May 6, 2017 5:30 pm

bobsquad wrote:Right now it's all speculation, and based on people's perceptions of the Mavs it's going to be a foreign guy. Kind of the way that people blindly mock no-name foreign guys to the Spurs, and then the Spurs go out and draft some different no-name foreign guy.



No doubt some of that is true. However I think its also true that everyone knows Dallas needs and wants a young PG and that we need a long-term replacement for Dirk at PF--assuming that isn't Barnes.


But regardless of the specific names in those mocks--there are no other players projected to be available at 9 that excite me any more. Now maybe someone will drop to us, but I'm underwhelmed by the talent at 9 right now.
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