If you were the GM how would you rebuild this team?

[CoachJReturns]

1. Fire Casey.
2. Hire Stackhouse.
3. Trade DeMar at the draft for the highest pick possible
4. Let all free agents walk, or sign and trade for picks and prospects if available.
5. Trade JV, Cojo and Carroll if there are any takers.
6. Give the kids and the picks 2 years, 3 tops. Then start adding a couple veterans to the team through trades and free agency.

I don't want more than 3 years max before we start aiming for the playoffs again with the new core and Stackhouse at the helm. 2 years should do it if we get a very good prospect in exchange for DeMar this year. Masai would essentially go back to being strictly a scout for prospects for a couple years. We would need to hit gold in at least one draft.

[dkb33]

1. Fire Casey.
2. Hire Stackhouse.
3. Trade DeMar at the draft for the highest pick possible
4. Let all free agents walk, or sign and trade for picks and prospects if available.
5. Trade JV, Cojo and Carroll if there are any takers.
6. Give the kids and the picks 2 years, 3 tops. Then start adding a couple veterans to the team through trades and free agency.

I don't want more than 3 years max before we start aiming for the playoffs again with the new core and Stackhouse at the helm. 2 years should do it if we get a very good prospect in exchange for DeMar this year. Masai would essentially go back to being strictly a scout for prospects for a couple years. We would need to hit gold in at least one draft.

So you want to go from 50 wins every year to being the Orlando Magic?

[Pericles]

1. I would re-sign Ibaka, Tucker, and Lowry.

2. Unfortunately, we have to try a new head coach. We need more offensive creativity and a commitment to shooting the 3 as part of our plan.

3. I would move JV, Joseph, and Carroll, allowing Poeltl, Wright, and Powell to move into larger roles. My hope is that there is a team with both the interest and capspace to absorb both Carroll and JV without returning matching salary.

4. I would let Patterson walk away. We need to save money somewhere.

5. I would attempt to move up in the draft. A longshot I know.

My new roster would look like:

Lowry / Van Fleet
Derozan / Wright
Powell / Caboclo
Tucker /
Ibaka / Poeltl

My plan would be to remain competitive,
while allowing our youth to grow playing minutes in games that matter. We also need to hope Masai can hit again in the draft this year.

[dkb33]

1. I would re-sign Ibaka, Tucker, and Lowry.

2. Unfortunately, we have to try a new head coach. We need more offensive creativity and a commitment to shooting the 3 as part of our plan.

3. I would move JV, Joseph, and Carroll, allowing Poeltl, Wright, and Powell to move into larger roles. My hope is that there is a team with both the interest and capspace to absorb both Carroll and JV without returning matching salary.

4. I would let Patterson walk away. We need to save money somewhere.

5. I would attempt to move up in the draft. A longshot I know.

My new roster would look like:

Lowry / Van Fleet
Derozan / Wright
Powell / Caboclo
Tucker /
Ibaka / Poeltl

My plan would be to remain competitive,
while allowing our youth to grow playing minutes in games that matter. We also need to hope Masai can hit again in the draft this year.

This is very close to my thinking as well. Do you have any thoughts on a new coach? I have talked myself into giving Stackhouse a shot personally.

[JShuttlesworth]

Personally, I don't think the time is right to blow things up completely - mainly because DeRozan is locked up - although I think you need to start planning and moving other guys. I fully expect Masai to play out the DeRozan era

FAs: Lowry / Ibaka / Patterson / Tucker

Joseph / Wright / VanVleet
DeRozan / Powell
Tucker / Carroll / Bruno
Ibaka / Siakam
Valanciunas / Poeltl / Bebe

I let both Lowry / Patterson walk. With Ibaka’s contract, I’d try and make the term coincide with DeMar’s so that they both come off the books at the same time. In the mean time we’d still be a playoff team, and guys like Powell / Poeltl would have an increased role.

Trades: Carroll / Joseph / Jonas / Bebe. I think that we need to move all of these guys to try and accumulate as many future 1st rounders as possible — We also want lengthy defenders and shooters, that should be our focus.

I'd try and acquire Jeff Teague, I don't think we'd have any drop off with a Teague Lowry swap.

We have a draft pick and we have the MLE. Those will be our friends and will likely round out our roster if trades aren’t made.

EDIT: Casey has gotta go as well. I like the guy, I just think his time is up

[jepjep]

Stay: jv dd si np ln ps #23 dw
Trade dc cj bc pp vf poetl
Sign pj kl decolo stackhouse
Fire coaches

[MavCarter]

1. Fire Casey.
2. Hire Stackhouse.
3. Trade DeMar at the draft for the highest pick possible
4. Let all free agents walk, or sign and trade for picks and prospects if available.
5. Trade JV, Cojo and Carroll if there are any takers.
6. Give the kids and the picks 2 years, 3 tops. Then start adding a couple veterans to the team through trades and free agency.

I don't want more than 3 years max before we start aiming for the playoffs again with the new core and Stackhouse at the helm. 2 years should do it if we get a very good prospect in exchange for DeMar this year. Masai would essentially go back to being strictly a scout for prospects for a couple years. We would need to hit gold in at least one draft.

3 years? How many teams actually complete a successful rebuild in 3 years? I remember reading a larry bird quote talking about how it takes at least 5 years to rebuild. Heck, didn't hinkie have a 7 year plan? lol

[RaptorsLife]

Starts with getting rid of casey and Lowry.

Everything else will fall into place.

[Childs]

This is going to be an awful summer.

[witnessraps]

- Get rid of Casey (should have been done years ago)
- Don't resign Patterson unless he costs dirt cheap
-Look to resign Tucker and Ibaka
-Look to resign Lowry only if he is 100% committed and doesn't cost the max. He may be better with a new voice. Unfortunately he doesn't seem committed with his comments. If we could somehow replace him with a guy like Teague I would look into that (although Teague stays in Indy imo)
-Try to get rid of Carroll without trading a 1st or one of the better young prospects, stretch him if you have to
- Add 3 point shooters
-trade Corey Joseph. Delon Wright can brick shots for a lot cheaper.
-Too lazy to rebuild. Fanbase doesn't have the patience and we have an elite all-star in his prime right now.

[omar36]

1. Fire Casey.
2. Hire Stackhouse.
3. Trade DeMar at the draft for the highest pick possible
4. Let all free agents walk, or sign and trade for picks and prospects if available.
5. Trade JV, Cojo and Carroll if there are any takers.
6. Give the kids and the picks 2 years, 3 tops. Then start adding a couple veterans to the team through trades and free agency.

I don't want more than 3 years max before we start aiming for the playoffs again with the new core and Stackhouse at the helm. 2 years should do it if we get a very good prospect in exchange for DeMar this year. Masai would essentially go back to being strictly a scout for prospects for a couple years. We would need to hit gold in at least one draft.

3 years? How many teams actually complete a successful rebuild in 3 years? I remember reading a larry bird quote talking about how it takes at least 5 years to rebuild. Heck, didn't hinkie have a 7 year plan? lol

well 3 years is a reasonable request at aiming for the playoffs. i dont think he meant in 3 years, we should be contending.
overall a team trying to compete for the championship will likely take 5 years + but by year 2/3 there should be some major potential being shown.

like anything, tank and rebuilding is a major risk and it likely may never reach the heights that this core did. however, i personally rather risk it then be stuck with the next version of the atlanta hawks.

[Lego Legs]

- Fire Casey and relevant members of the coaching
- Hire Messina/Stackhouse/Raptor Jesus
- Re-sign Lowry - not at the max, but at something better than the rest of the league can offer
- Re-sign Tucker & Ibaka
- Let PPat walk - which earlier this year I said was unthinkable, but he can't make shots
- Trade Carroll, give up a future first if I have to
- Send JV to work on his condition and foot speed
- Insert Bruno into the starting line-up
- Punch LeBron in the nuts
- Smoke a cigar and celebrate a job well done.

Starting Bruno? lol Other then that I kinda think the same as you. I got JV/Joseph on the block though as they are expendable assets that I would want picks/shooters/salary relief for.

I was being slightly cheeky with the Bruno bit, but I'd like to see him as 12-13th man on the bench get some minutes here and there.

As for JV and Joseph. I'm happy to trade them, but I'm not in the boat of just dumping them for the sake of it. Carroll on other hand I'd dump, he has no use.

[MavCarter]

1. Fire Casey.
2. Hire Stackhouse.
3. Trade DeMar at the draft for the highest pick possible
4. Let all free agents walk, or sign and trade for picks and prospects if available.
5. Trade JV, Cojo and Carroll if there are any takers.
6. Give the kids and the picks 2 years, 3 tops. Then start adding a couple veterans to the team through trades and free agency.

I don't want more than 3 years max before we start aiming for the playoffs again with the new core and Stackhouse at the helm. 2 years should do it if we get a very good prospect in exchange for DeMar this year. Masai would essentially go back to being strictly a scout for prospects for a couple years. We would need to hit gold in at least one draft.

3 years? How many teams actually complete a successful rebuild in 3 years? I remember reading a larry bird quote talking about how it takes at least 5 years to rebuild. Heck, didn't hinkie have a 7 year plan? lol

well 3 years is a reasonable request at aiming for the playoffs. i dont think he meant in 3 years, we should be contending.
overall a team trying to compete for the championship will likely take 5 years + but by year 2/3 there should be some major potential being shown.

like anything, tank and rebuilding is a major risk and it likely may never reach the heights that this core did. however, i personally rather risk it then be stuck with the next version of the atlanta hawks.

Tanking to playoffs in 3 years is still pretty unreasonable unless you start spending money/trading for veteran core players

[Throwback24]

Re-sign Ibaka and trade spare parts+Ibaka for Blake Griffin. Everything hinges on that. I resign everyone but no matter the results I stay very active on the trading front next season.

[Dr Positivity]

Trade Derozan, trade Valanciunas

When was the last time going more modern basketball and analytics friendly turned out bad?

[TrustFundBaby]

1. Fire Casey.
2. Hire Stackhouse.
3. Trade DeMar at the draft for the highest pick possible
4. Let all free agents walk, or sign and trade for picks and prospects if available.
5. Trade JV, Cojo and Carroll if there are any takers.
6. Give the kids and the picks 2 years, 3 tops. Then start adding a couple veterans to the team through trades and free agency.

I don't want more than 3 years max before we start aiming for the playoffs again with the new core and Stackhouse at the helm. 2 years should do it if we get a very good prospect in exchange for DeMar this year. Masai would essentially go back to being strictly a scout for prospects for a couple years. We would need to hit gold in at least one draft.

I agree with almost everything. Only changes I make is: extend the rebuild length as 3yrs is a bit short.UTA is in thier 4th yr and just made it, PHX is starting their 4th and still nowhere close,LAL starting thier 5th and still far away etc.

A second change I would make is possibly holding onto JV a little longer. His value is probs at an all time low, I'd feature him as the 1st option an a tank team ala Bropez, and trade him at the deadline for prospects. Otherwise good stuff

[CoachJReturns]

3 years? How many teams actually complete a successful rebuild in 3 years? I remember reading a larry bird quote talking about how it takes at least 5 years to rebuild. Heck, didn't hinkie have a 7 year plan? lol

well 3 years is a reasonable request at aiming for the playoffs. i dont think he meant in 3 years, we should be contending.
overall a team trying to compete for the championship will likely take 5 years + but by year 2/3 there should be some major potential being shown.

like anything, tank and rebuilding is a major risk and it likely may never reach the heights that this core did. however, i personally rather risk it then be stuck with the next version of the atlanta hawks.

Tanking to playoffs in 3 years is still pretty unreasonable unless you start spending money/trading for veteran core players

WellI said specifically after 2-3 years to start adding a couple veterans. They don't need to be core guys, but I think it's useful to have some veteran leadership in the locker room when you have a bunch of kids. And it's not like making the playoffs is some incredibly difficult accomplishment. More than half the teams in the league do it. Maybe we don't make it back after 3 years, but it's not like sneaking in as a late seed is some miracle.

Honestly, i'm finding the over reactions of posters here to the notion of a rebuild to be kind of funny and dramatic. This is an entirely hypothetical forum. I'm willing to concede that going young can fail, but those opposed to a rebuild think a couple more years of just making the playoffs builds some sort of good will. I keep reading this crap about winning culture. As if free agents will join a team just because they made the playoffs when over half the teams in the league can offer that. Winning culture matters when you're a contender, not when you're in the tiers below without a superstar. The biggest free agent names almost always sign with contenders, or teams where they have other ambitions altogether(Melo). Just being competitive doesn't do as much for us as some think. I don't think anyone gives a damn about the Hawks after all their playoff appearances. Same with Memphis. You can make the playoffs every single year and that's great, but is that the goal?
A rebuild can fail, but I actually have a lot of faith in Masai. Maybe I'm in the minority, but oh well. I don't often agree with the majority on most issues.

[XxIronChainzxX]

well 3 years is a reasonable request at aiming for the playoffs. i dont think he meant in 3 years, we should be contending.
overall a team trying to compete for the championship will likely take 5 years + but by year 2/3 there should be some major potential being shown.

like anything, tank and rebuilding is a major risk and it likely may never reach the heights that this core did. however, i personally rather risk it then be stuck with the next version of the atlanta hawks.

Tanking to playoffs in 3 years is still pretty unreasonable unless you start spending money/trading for veteran core players

WellI said specifically after 2-3 years to start adding a couple veterans. They don't need to be core guys, but I think it's useful to have some veteran leadership in the locker room when you have a bunch of kids. And it's not like making the playoffs is some incredibly difficult accomplishment. More than half the teams in the league do it. Maybe we don't make it back after 3 years, but it's not like sneaking in as a late seed is some miracle.

Honestly, i'm finding the over reactions of posters here to the notion of a rebuild to be kind of funny and dramatic. This is an entirely hypothetical forum. I'm willing to concede that going young can fail, but those opposed to a rebuild think a couple more years of just making the playoffs builds some sort of good will. I keep reading this crap about winning culture. As if free agents will join a team just because they made the playoffs when over half the teams in the league can offer that. Winning culture matters when you're a contender, not when you're in the tiers below without a superstar. The biggest free agent names almost always sign with contenders, or teams where they have other ambitions altogether(Melo). Just being competitive doesn't do as much for us as some think. I don't think anyone gives a damn about the Hawks after all their playoff appearances. Same with Memphis. You can make the playoffs every single year and that's great, but is that the goal?
A rebuild can fail, but I actually have a lot of faith in Masai. Maybe I'm in the minority, but oh well. I don't often agree with the majority on most issues.

I'm not sure you're appreciating how unreal a 3-year turnaround would be if you're going to do anything other than re-tool. Lebron James , who was absurdly good in his first year, took 3 years to take the **** that was Cleveland to the postseason.

[CoachJReturns]

Tanking to playoffs in 3 years is still pretty unreasonable unless you start spending money/trading for veteran core players

WellI said specifically after 2-3 years to start adding a couple veterans. They don't need to be core guys, but I think it's useful to have some veteran leadership in the locker room when you have a bunch of kids. And it's not like making the playoffs is some incredibly difficult accomplishment. More than half the teams in the league do it. Maybe we don't make it back after 3 years, but it's not like sneaking in as a late seed is some miracle.

Honestly, i'm finding the over reactions of posters here to the notion of a rebuild to be kind of funny and dramatic. This is an entirely hypothetical forum. I'm willing to concede that going young can fail, but those opposed to a rebuild think a couple more years of just making the playoffs builds some sort of good will. I keep reading this crap about winning culture. As if free agents will join a team just because they made the playoffs when over half the teams in the league can offer that. Winning culture matters when you're a contender, not when you're in the tiers below without a superstar. The biggest free agent names almost always sign with contenders, or teams where they have other ambitions altogether(Melo). Just being competitive doesn't do as much for us as some think. I don't think anyone gives a damn about the Hawks after all their playoff appearances. Same with Memphis. You can make the playoffs every single year and that's great, but is that the goal?
A rebuild can fail, but I actually have a lot of faith in Masai. Maybe I'm in the minority, but oh well. I don't often agree with the majority on most issues.

I'm not sure you're appreciating how unreal a 3-year turnaround would be if you're going to do anything other than re-tool. Lebron James , who was absurdly good in his first year, took 3 years to take the **** that was Cleveland to the postseason.

Alright. So you really want to harp on the 3 year thing? I stated 3 years as the time to focus on high picks. After that a lot of casual fans lose interest, so it's reasonable to assume Masai would want to add some guys to make the team more competitive. I personally don't care how long it takes to make it back to the playoffs, as long as the team shows up when they do.
I'm happy watching a young team compete and develop in front of my eyes.
As for LeBron, he had nobody to play with and quickly improved the Cavs to the point they couldn't get another top pick the following couple years and it hurt them as far as building the roster went. He really played with nothing but scrubs. I don't know if our young guys are studs, but Norm, Jakob, Delon and Siakam at least look like NBA rotation players. Frankly, I expect Poeltl and Norm to be pretty damn good in another 3 years time. Delon will be a solid backup as well, but if we were trading DeMar for a pick in this draft, as I suggested, I imagine we would target our Lowry replacement since it's a point guard heavy class. Someone like Dennis Smith Junior would be a good first move. Call me over optimistic, but in most cases this team has tanked/rebuilt it was done terribly and the roster started from ground zero. Having a few guys entering their second and third season already gets us a step ahead of previous attempts.

[Dr Positivity]

Look in your heart you know the answer

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TRADE D
TRADE DE
TRADE DER
TRADE DERO
TRADE DEROZ
TRADE DEROZA
TRADE DEROZAN

If you want to get rid of isoball get rid of the #1 ballstopping iso player on the team. It's not the coach.

Powell in a post Derozan universe could blow up. 15-20ppg next year. Derozan = Aldridge, Powell = CJ McCollum

The Raptors if they traded Derozan could put out lineups like... Lowry, Powell, Carroll, Patterson, Ibaka. That lineup is so modern. You have floor spacing at every position. Every defender has mobile speed and switch-ability. The offense revolves around Lowry and hopefully Powell. The team hopefully has more passing allowing players like Carroll and Pat to get more open shots. Volume wise yes we're a little bit short. But what if Powell steps up? Ibaka can get to 15 a game. Lowry can set a career high.

Also the coach: Stackhouse. New offensive system. New team. Low expectations by the media, high results. Finally... I didn't even mention what we get for Derozan. A top 5 pick? Porzingis or Turner?

It's time for Masai to use his balls. Move the midrange shooting, weak defending SG, replace with 3 and D. Thank you Derozan for your contributions but sometimes you gotta break an egg to make an omelette.