And Then There Was One: Thank Nation 2. Raps pick 23rd

Psubs · Post #1981 » by **Psubs** » Sat May 6, 2017 4:05 am

HeadtopChunes wrote:So after that sorry display of shooting who are the best wing shooters in the draft? Ojeleye looks okay and Ferguson looks good.

Get rid of Carroll and Patterson and bring in someone with some swagger and anger! Ojeleye!

BoyzNTheHood · Post #1982 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sat May 6, 2017 4:38 am

HeadtopChunes wrote:So after that sorry display of shooting who are the best wing shooters in the draft? Ojeleye looks okay and Ferguson looks good.

Meet Peter Jok

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PhilBlackson · Post #1983 » by **PhilBlackson** » Sat May 6, 2017 7:32 am

CoachJReturns wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:
CoachJReturns wrote:Given how ordinary the small forwards available look to me, I'm leaning to my original choice of Ivan Rabb if he's still on the board. I'd go so far as to make a minor deal to move up a couple spots for him. He won't be the potential perimeter defender Siakam is, but he rebounds, blocks shots, scores in the post and passes better than he does. His perimeter shot has made progress as well.
I always liked the idea of a Poeltl and Rabb frontcourt in terms of having two guys with a good feel for the game. Maybe it's all the ball stopping over the years that makes it so appealing.

I used to like Rabb but the league has changed so much to become about speed and PERIMETER shooting/defending.

Rabb lacks BOTH, also a bit ironic you use the word ordinary because if there was ever a player that looked it, it's Rabb.

I get liking him a bit because yes with his touch around the basket and solid enough post defence he can be an alright player but I would have hoped that we've learned from JV what a waste it is picking traditional bigs in today's game. I already know your rebuttal to that will be that Rabb is showing some shooting touch where he may be eventually able to step out and nail a long 2pt - 3pt shot but I fail to see any reason why we wouldn't just go with one of Hartenstein, Bolden or Kuzma who are longer and heavier than Rabb yet already shoot the 3 ball MUCH better, are much quicker and better BALLHANDLERS and passers.

Rabb imo looks like he will have a trajectory similar to Ed Davis, maaaaybe slightly better and personally I'm done with the "solid" picks. It's time to take another chance on upside and not let our pick of THE rawest player of all time (Bruno) scare us from trying again just because he was absolutely clueless. If we are going to draft a SF or PF lets at least try to find a player that has the physical potential to be good in today's game which is why if OG is off the board I advocate picking one of Hartenstein, Bolden or Kuzma. All of these guys will have the speed and perimeter shooting to build on and every one of them are at least as long and strong as Rabb, if not more. If we are able to develop the most clueless and rawest of all picks like Bruno into a rotation player it gives me great hope for what we could do with any of those names who are light years ahead of what he was coming into the league....imo Rabb just doesn't have "it".

Hartenstein is a reasonable choice, though that 29% 3 point percentage for a guy who's biggest appeal is being a stretch 4 isn't all that impressive. Of course he's 19, so that will improve and could improve drastically. Bolden is athletic, I'll give you that, but I think a guy who played 6 minutes a game as a freshman, no matter how athletic, may turn off Masai as there is not a lot to judge him by in actual game situations against good competition, compared to most 1 and done freshman who play bigger roles.
I think Anigbogu would be a Masai guy, but I don't expect him to still be available. If he is I'd take him in a heartbeat. Youngest player in the draft(I think) and probably the best shot blocker/rim protector. Could be a Bizmack replacement which is nice value with a late pick. From a defense and rebounding perspective he's got very high upside.

Agreed on Anigbogu...

I left him out because I was just thinking a bit more along the lines of stretch 4 in my last post because you had mentioned Rabb and I don't like his lateral or end to end speed to become a very good one but yeah I would totally consider Anigbogu. I think his potential is higher than what Biz was/is?! personally but that's not a bad comparison. I also agree that I doubt he's there for us to pick because I think the Bucks will as the only thing they really lack is a good defensive C. The crazy thing is Giannis is only 22 so they still at least a couple of years before they really need to worry about anything. I think they will be a 50+W team starting next year and by the time Anigbogu is ready to start could be EXACTLY when they are ready to compete for a title (I personally think they have that kind of potential).

Sorry for the blab but yeah I like IA too. One player I keep hoping to hear is declaring is MIKAL BRIDGES. I would be very happy if we draft him. I find it hard to say what's my big board after OG but I know the following players are on it for me..

- Mikal Bridges
- Isaiah Hartenstein
- Jonah Bolden
- Ike Anigbogu
- Jawun Evans
- Kyle Kuzma
- Hamidou Diallo
- Johnathan Jeanne

Not too interested in anyone outside of those names. Of course pending a player that falls in the draft or perhaps some random "Greek Freek" type of player suddenly appears a couple weeks out and not necessarily meaning just a 7ft tall SF. It could be any position but just some kid that played internationally that is creating a buzz at the combine or just before....not being the weirdest pick of the last 10 years where people didn't even know the kid was in the draft until they heard us pick him ala Bruno lol Anyways I can't even begin to predict who we draft yet but there's a lot of interesting players. Thankfully there's still something interesting going on in Raptorland.

Par36 · Post #1984 » by **Par36** » Sat May 6, 2017 7:47 am

Swing for the fences.

OAKLEY_2 · Post #1985 » by **OAKLEY_2** » Sat May 6, 2017 11:48 am

Par36 wrote:Swing for the fences.

We have no fences.

S ID · Post #1986 » by **S ID** » Sat May 6, 2017 3:38 pm

Do you guys think Hamidou Diallo stays?

HeadtopChunes · Post #1987 » by **HeadtopChunes** » Sat May 6, 2017 4:35 pm

S ID wrote:Do you guys think Hamidou Diallo stays?

It probably depends on what they tell him at the combine. If he's gonna go late 1st maybe. But if he's projected 2nd round I can see him going back to school.

CoachJReturns · Post #1988 » by **CoachJReturns** » Sat May 6, 2017 8:19 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:
S ID wrote:Do you guys think Hamidou Diallo stays?

It probably depends on what they tell him at the combine. If he's gonna go late 1st maybe. But if he's projected 2nd round I can see him going back to school.

I'm curious if he even works out for anyone. He's a big unknown right now and it might benefit him to keep it that way.

almatic · Post #1989 » by **almatic** » Sat May 6, 2017 9:33 pm

Naysorn wrote:
S ID wrote:Harry Giles. Or whatever player has the highest ceiling at 23 no matter the risk.

Definitely. There's usually someone that falls because he's not as skilled but he has the ceiling of a superstar. You grab that man immediately.

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BoyzNTheHood · Post #1990 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sun May 7, 2017 3:40 am

Why no discussion on Ilimane Diop? Dude's not even ranked on DX, but has top-10 talent.

MavCarter · Post #1991 » by **MavCarter** » Sun May 7, 2017 4:06 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Why no discussion on Ilimane Diop? Dude's not even ranked on DX, but has top-10 talent.

He looks intriguing as hell, did he declare?

BoyzNTheHood · Post #1992 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sun May 7, 2017 4:16 am

McGregFan wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Why no discussion on Ilimane Diop? Dude's not even ranked on DX, but has top-10 talent.

He looks intriguing as hell, did he declare?

No word yet. Last year he withdrew. But he's already 22 so the time is now.

Syd-TK3 · Post #1993 » by **Syd-TK3** » Sun May 7, 2017 7:05 am

That Diallo guy looks very much like Demar

CoachJReturns · Post #1994 » by **CoachJReturns** » Sun May 7, 2017 5:52 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:That Diallo guy looks very much like Demar

Yeah he reminds me of what DeMar was in high school. Basically just a dunker. We criticize DeMar a lot, but he has developed from a raw athlete to an excellent offensive player. Too bad his defense is still awful.

MavCarter · Post #1995 » by **MavCarter** » Sun May 7, 2017 5:59 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:So after that sorry display of shooting who are the best wing shooters in the draft? Ojeleye looks okay and Ferguson looks good.

Meet Peter Jok

Watch on YouTube

He looks pretty good. Wonder why no one has him mocked

MavCarter · Post #1996 » by **MavCarter** » Sun May 7, 2017 6:05 pm

Watch on YouTube

BoyzNTheHood · Post #1997 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sun May 7, 2017 6:10 pm

The next Ibaka. Better believe Masai knows about this kid.

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BoyzNTheHood · Post #1998 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sun May 7, 2017 6:12 pm

McGregFan wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:So after that sorry display of shooting who are the best wing shooters in the draft? Ojeleye looks okay and Ferguson looks good.

Meet Peter Jok

Watch on YouTube

He looks pretty good. Wonder why no one has him mocked

He's already 23. But he has a great back story. Father died when he was young so he was taken in by an American family.

Either way, I don't see how he fails as a shooter in the NBA. It's almost like he thrives with tough defense on him. Absolute knock down shooter.

Tortiglioni · Post #1999 » by **Tortiglioni** » Sun May 7, 2017 6:29 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Why no discussion on Ilimane Diop? Dude's not even ranked on DX, but has top-10 talent.

Maybe at the local YMCA. He isn't even close to 2nd-round talent.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #2000 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sun May 7, 2017 6:37 pm

Tortiglioni wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Why no discussion on Ilimane Diop? Dude's not even ranked on DX, but has top-10 talent.

Maybe at the local YMCA. He isn't even close to 2nd-round talent.

Based on what expert?