If you were the GM how would you rebuild this team?

[andyhop]

Given I get fired if the team drops off from here to where it needs to be to have any chance of me building a contender I resign everyone I can afford and accept being the Hawks/Grizzlies until the run ends, then rebuild then when noone will blame me for the team taking a backward step ( people get old what can you do)

[RapsFanInOhio]

Trade DD to the Lakers for Ingram and filler or their first round pick and filler. Yes they do this.
Let Lowry, Patterson, Ibaka, and Tucker all walk.
Fire Casey.
Hire Stackhouse.
Trade Carroll for anything.

Yes I am okay with taking a few years to totally reset. I don't think half-assed rebuilds or a re-tooling is the answer because I don't think a DD or Lowry-led team is ever getting any further than the ECF.

Powell, Ingram, #23 overall, Bruno, Van Vleet, Wright, Siakam, JV, Poeltl + all of our future 1st round picks is a nice core to rebuild around.

[Clementine64]

I wouldn't go nuclear, just a quick refresh of the role players and prospects to fix a few of our weaknesses. We need to see what the core can do under a competent coach first.

First order of business is to fire Casey and replace him with either an up and coming new face like Stackhouse or an established winner.

Then trade Carroll to Brooklyn for a TPE

Trade Joseph to Philly for a pick and TPE

Let Patterson walk, cut Van Vleet

Re-sign Tucker, Ibaka and Lowry to team friendly deals.

Draft 3&D SF & Stretch PF

Sign two 3pt shooters at PG & SF

Play Bruno significant mins at the 3/4 for development purposes, he's ready

Lowry/Wright/FA
Derozan/
Powell/Tucker/FA/Draft pick
Ibaka/Siakam/Bruno/Draft pick
JV/Poeltl/Bebe

Bruno developing into a solid pro will be key to our success going forward. He has the potential to be an elite 3&D SF/PF. He'd allow to much versatility in the lineup, I'm really excited to see what a new coach can do with him. If we want to play fast like we did vs the Bucks we could run Lowry/DeRozan /Powell /Bruno /Ibaka. Bruno could be the Giannis cryptonite and down the road he could potentially give Lebron fits with his crazy length. We need to invest in him now at the expense of regular season wins in order to become a better playoff team, he's the key defensively I'm telling you.

[OAKLEY_2]

I wouldn't go nuclear, just a quick refresh of the role players and prospects to fix a few of our weaknesses. We need to see what the core can do under a competent coach first.

First order of business is to fire Casey and replace him with either an up and coming new face like Stackhouse or an established winner.

Then trade Carroll to Brooklyn for a TPE

Trade Joseph to Philly for a pick and TPE

Let Patterson walk, cut Van Vleet

Re-sign Tucker, Ibaka and Lowry to team friendly deals.

Draft 3&D SF & Stretch PF

Sign two 3pt shooters at PG & SF

Play Bruno significant mins at the 3/4 for development purposes, he's ready

Lowry/Wright/FA
Derozan/
Powell/Tucker/FA/Draft pick
Ibaka/Siakam/Bruno/Draft pick
JV/Poeltl/Bebe

Bruno developing into a solid pro will be key to our success going forward. He has the potential to be an elite 3&D SF/PF. He'd allow to much versatility in the lineup, I'm really excited to see what a new coach can do with him. If we want to play fast like we did vs the Bucks we could run Lowry/DeRozan /Powell /Bruno /Ibaka. Bruno could be the Giannis cryptonite and down the road he could potentially give Lebron fits with his crazy length. We need to invest in him now at the expense of regular season wins in order to become a better playoff team, he's the key defensively I'm telling you.

First off you can only get a TPE if the player is a free agent and you have their bird rights and you sign and trade them. This applies to Lowry, Patterson, Ibaka and Tucker.

Speculating but with chronic injuries Carroll can only really be seeded into another deal lowering that return.

Even Lowry knows it is bad business to go into the tax to be Lebron's B.

Hard choices are:

Keep one or both or none of KL/Demar. Not too many teams would blow that up. Hope means employment.

After that our two guard core is supported by a youth rebuild already. The only question is whether to tank hard for multiple lotto trips or just one trip like Miami and risk getting a Michael Beasley.

I think the logic goes something like Raps cannot be a tax team with Lebron active. One of KL or Demar should go to make sure we are not in the tax and to hopefully allow for new assets to keep the team competitive longer term. Pretty sure Masai will choose to keep the duo together. Which means eventual blow-up when they go the way of the Bulls. Note that the Bulls have never chosen to tank and currently they are a playoff bubble team.

Best course of action is re-Sign KL and preserve the asset. Trade good guy Derozan and maximize return. Sign Tucker. S+T Ibaka. Salary dump Cory and Bebe. Give JV a shot under a new coach like Stackhouse.

The easier option is S+T Lowry to Philly and re-set at point guard, sign Serge, sign PJ and throw some dough at Teague, Holiday or Hill.

[Raps in 4]

Move on from Lowry if terms are outlandish. Move on from Patterson.

Sign Jeff Teague if Lowry terms are difficult to stomach. He's worse than Lowry in the regular season but is 2 years younger and had a better playoff against the Cavs.

Sign Serge Ibaka.

Trade Jonas Valanciunas and Cory Joseph and a pick if necessary for a star wing who fits in well next to Derozan and shoots a ton of 3s. This player would need to be special enough to offset the drop from Lowry down to Teague.

Hire the next Brad Stevens to coach a more diverse offensive team that runs its offence primarily through the two wings with Teague and Ibaka as 15ppg complimentary pieces.

Move Norm to a 6 man role.

Start Poeltl at C.

Make Siakam the backup PF.


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That team is significantly worse than our current one.

If we let Lowry walk and don't replace him with a player of similar value, we need to rebuild. Otherwise we're a capped out 40-win team.

[Scott Hall]

Ujiri didn't do a complete tank job when he had to trade Melo out of Denver don't get your hopes
up he's gonna do it now.

[YoungG]

I wouldn't go nuclear, just a quick refresh of the role players and prospects to fix a few of our weaknesses. We need to see what the core can do under a competent coach first.

First order of business is to fire Casey and replace him with either an up and coming new face like Stackhouse or an established winner.

Then trade Carroll to Brooklyn for a TPE

Trade Joseph to Philly for a pick and TPE

Let Patterson walk, cut Van Vleet

Re-sign Tucker, Ibaka and Lowry to team friendly deals.

Draft 3&D SF & Stretch PF

Sign two 3pt shooters at PG & SF

Play Bruno significant mins at the 3/4 for development purposes, he's ready

Lowry/Wright/FA
Derozan/
Powell/Tucker/FA/Draft pick
Ibaka/Siakam/Bruno/Draft pick
JV/Poeltl/Bebe

Bruno developing into a solid pro will be key to our success going forward. He has the potential to be an elite 3&D SF/PF. He'd allow to much versatility in the lineup, I'm really excited to see what a new coach can do with him. If we want to play fast like we did vs the Bucks we could run Lowry/DeRozan /Powell /Bruno /Ibaka. Bruno could be the Giannis cryptonite and down the road he could potentially give Lebron fits with his crazy length. We need to invest in him now at the expense of regular season wins in order to become a better playoff team, he's the key defensively I'm telling you.

You ideas and mine are similar in our approach of how to rebuild the team. I'd trade CoJo to philly for Robert Covington who fulfills a lot of what this team is missing from a wing perspective and he's also on an extremely cheap deal. One thing that I'm curious about right now is also the possibility of bringing Chris Bosh back. Considering all of his recent troubles the idea is extremely risky BUT I think he could also be signed for much less than his value because of that same ideology. Bosh beside Ibaka would give us a formidable front court that can switch, shoot, rebound and block shots.

Lowry/Wright/FA
Derozan/Powell
Covington/Tucker
Ibaka/Siakam/Bruno
Bosh/Poeltl

This is all hypothetically speaking as we're not really GM's and cannot guess accurately what Masai will do but I do believe that he'll address their issues of length, shooting and the ability to defend the perimeter.

[mattkobe1984]

If I were the GM I would have a meeting with Casey and tell him in his face I will be gernally managing your lineup next year because I am going to build this team around Powell and Demar. Starting both Powell and DD together, in the playoff it's working so Powell needs to be a full time starter for the team next year(35mins/gm avg)

I would talk to Lowry to resign same as dd if he wants the supermax, have to let him walk

Resign ilbaka and tucker

Rotation and lineup should be like
(Starting lineup)
Lowry/DD/Powell/Ilbaka/JV
(7:00-6:00 mins mark)
Joseph or wright/DD/Tucker/Patterson/Purtle
(3:00-2:00 min mark)
Joseph or wright/Powell/Tucker/Patterson/Purtle

Start of second Q (offense to run thru JV)
Wright/Carrol/Tucker/Patterson/JV
(10:00-8:00 mark)
Lowry/DD/Tucker/Patterson/ilbaka
(6:00-5:00 mark)
Lowry/DD/Powell/Tucker/Ilbaka
Or
Lowry/DD/Powell/Ilbaka/JV

That way Lowry won't have to play heavy mins in the RS and no more of the 2 point guard lineups, also the start of the second quarters let the offence run thru JV with a lot of defence on the floor while dd have a rest.

Unless we get a really good deal for JV I think we will do worst if we got something lower value then what JV brings to us. Like for example we got our good sharp shooters who can space floor but without JV we would get eat up by bigs like monroe or Thompson.

All in all just get a new coach and be competitive I don't expect to beat the cavs but more fun team and use the guys to the strength and no Carrol playing basically just play him 2-5 mins in the 2nd q and 3rd q and pass the ball inside to JV haha

Have a statement Powell and DD is the future the rest need to buy into the system, if they don't like it trade them out.

[TackyRapsFan]

I'd say Lowry is done here, and I say that knowing he's the best Raptor. If Lowry is gone, is there a point in keep DeRozan? What's his value? Pivot and collect some valuable assets (youth).

We've essentially wasted away years of development on JV, so u don't know what to do with him. Jakob Poeltl is waiting in the wings. He needs a major increase in minutes.

DeMarre Carroll will likely cost us to get rid of him (and we only have one pick left this year).

Trade Corey, he may still have some value to a contending team.

What of Serge and PJ? Re-sign them and we might as well change our logo to a treadmill.

Let's get Bruno in the **** game, after seeing Thon Maker improve so drastically, we might as well see what we have with him.

Powell will be a key piece. He is clearly ready to be a starting two-way guard in this league. We can cash in on him now (via trade, netting a great return because of his current contract) or install him into the core of the future team.

Siakam might have some potential to be a good player, I really can't tell with him (because we don't develop youth).

Fire Casey (out of a cannon, into the sun). This happens no matter if we choose to treadmill or tank.




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[ruckus]

How many more years does LeBron have left? How many more years can GSW stay together. At the very least, those 2 answers will inform the decision whether or not to rebuild. You also have to look at factors like anyone getting ready to take LeBron's place (Giannis) and how strong your scouting department is when there isn't a surefire pick at your position.

The problem with rebuilding is that all it does is sell hope. That's it. There's no guarantees that whatever you build will be as good as the product you have now.

Despite the results of this series, we have a solid nucleus of players. Maybe a coaching shift will be the remedy to make this team more competitive against the elite teams. Maybe it won't but, if someone said at the beginning of the season that we would be walking into the playoffs with Lowry, DeMar, Ibaka and Val in the starting lineup with PJ Tucker coming off the bench, I'd look at you like you were crazy.

There's a really good team in there somewhere. Kudos to Casey for taking them this far but, it might be time for a different voice in the locker room.

[jimmy keys]

Look in your heart you know the answer

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If you want to get rid of isoball get rid of the #1 ballstopping iso player on the team. It's not the coach.

Powell in a post Derozan universe could blow up. 15-20ppg next year. Derozan = Aldridge, Powell = CJ McCollum

The Raptors if they traded Derozan could put out lineups like... Lowry, Powell, Carroll, Patterson, Ibaka. That lineup is so modern. You have floor spacing at every position. Every defender has mobile speed and switch-ability. The offense revolves around Lowry and hopefully Powell. The team hopefully has more passing allowing players like Carroll and Pat to get more open shots. Volume wise yes we're a little bit short. But what if Powell steps up? Ibaka can get to 15 a game. Lowry can set a career high.

Also the coach: Stackhouse. New offensive system. New team. Low expectations by the media, high results. Finally... I didn't even mention what we get for Derozan. A top 5 pick? Porzingis or Turner?

It's time for Masai to use his balls. Move the midrange shooting, weak defending SG, replace with 3 and D. Thank you Derozan for your contributions but sometimes you gotta break an egg to make an omelette.

Hahaha I'm not sure if you're trying to sell me a house or what, but I love this post

[OAKLEY_2]

How many more years does LeBron have left? How many more years can GSW stay together. At the very least, those 2 answers will inform the decision whether or not to rebuild. You also have to look at factors like anyone getting ready to take LeBron's place (Giannis) and how strong your scouting department is when there isn't a surefire pick at your position.

The problem with rebuilding is that all it does is sell hope. That's it. There's no guarantees that whatever you build will be as good as the product you have now.

Despite the results of this series, we have a solid nucleus of players. Maybe a coaching shift will be the remedy to make this team more competitive against the elite teams. Maybe it won't but, if someone said at the beginning of the season that we would be walking into the playoffs with Lowry, DeMar, Ibaka and Val in the starting lineup with PJ Tucker coming off the bench, I'd look at you like you were crazy.

There's a really good team in there somewhere. Kudos to Casey for taking them this far but, it might be time for a different voice in the locker room.

Nobody obvious is taking LBJ's place the way LBJ replaced Jordan as league centrepiece. Nobody.

[TGM]

Given the outcome of the playoffs I think you let Lowry walk. We won't be able to upgrade this team further. Let Lowry walk and trade JV and Carrol. Let 2 Pat walk, but resign ibaka and tucker.

We need legit superstar presence and I don't think Lowry is the guy. He is way too small and is good because he is all heart, but when it comes to talent, Chris Paul has it, Kyrie has it, Curry has it.

We also need a swing with swagger. Us getting killed against Cleveland is larger due to confidence. Look at the way Paul george played Lebron. He went toe to toe. Our guys are all running for the hills. Lebron respected the Pacers but is toying with our guys.

[Double Helix]

Move on from Lowry if terms are outlandish. Move on from Patterson.

Sign Jeff Teague if Lowry terms are difficult to stomach. He's worse than Lowry in the regular season but is 2 years younger and had a better playoff against the Cavs.

Sign Serge Ibaka.

Trade Jonas Valanciunas and Cory Joseph and a pick if necessary for a star wing who fits in well next to Derozan and shoots a ton of 3s. This player would need to be special enough to offset the drop from Lowry down to Teague.

Hire the next Brad Stevens to coach a more diverse offensive team that runs its offence primarily through the two wings with Teague and Ibaka as 15ppg complimentary pieces.

Move Norm to a 6 man role.

Start Poeltl at C.

Make Siakam the backup PF.


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That team is significantly worse than our current one.

If we let Lowry walk and don't replace him with a player of similar value, we need to rebuild. Otherwise we're a capped out 40-win team.

I think I could potentially be better (for an ECF run) and have a compete window that stays open longer to capitalize on the eventual Lebron decline.

Teague has been comparable or even better than Lowry come playoff time. He's also younger and less injury prone. The plan would hinge on the quality of the 3 point shooting wing secured in the JV + assets trade. That player would need to be a borderline stud for it to be an upgrade overall.


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[OAKLEY_2]

I'd say Lowry is done here, and I say that knowing he's the best Raptor. If Lowry is gone, is there a point in keep DeRozan? What's his value? Pivot and collect some valuable assets (youth).

We've essentially wasted away years of development on JV, so u don't know what to do with him. Jakob Poeltl is waiting in the wings. He needs a major increase in minutes.

DeMarre Carroll will likely cost us to get rid of him (and we only have one pick left this year).

Trade Corey, he may still have some value to a contending team.

What of Serge and PJ? Re-sign them and we might as well change our logo to a treadmill.

Let's get Bruno in the **** game, after seeing Thon Maker improve so drastically, we might as well see what we have with him.

Powell will be a key piece. He is clearly ready to be a starting two-way guard in this league. We can cash in on him now (via trade, netting a great return because of his current contract) or install him into the core of the future team.

Siakam might have some potential to be a good player, I really can't tell with him (because we don't develop youth).

Fire Casey (out of a cannon, into the sun). This happens no matter if we choose to treadmill or tank.




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Masai doesn't work like that. He will want to show the market Raps best get paid. He will be happy to have two or three more good years of KL. Derozan on the other hand is locked up and is an allstar. His loyalty has been exemplary but he has massive trade value and we actually have a shooting guard in the wings. Sending him to L.A. for a package is a natural compliment to Norm, Delon, Poetl, Paskal. If someone like Zubac is in the deal no need to overpay Serge but an opportunity certainly exists for a sign and trade.

[ruckus]

How many more years does LeBron have left? How many more years can GSW stay together. At the very least, those 2 answers will inform the decision whether or not to rebuild. You also have to look at factors like anyone getting ready to take LeBron's place (Giannis) and how strong your scouting department is when there isn't a surefire pick at your position.

The problem with rebuilding is that all it does is sell hope. That's it. There's no guarantees that whatever you build will be as good as the product you have now.

Despite the results of this series, we have a solid nucleus of players. Maybe a coaching shift will be the remedy to make this team more competitive against the elite teams. Maybe it won't but, if someone said at the beginning of the season that we would be walking into the playoffs with Lowry, DeMar, Ibaka and Val in the starting lineup with PJ Tucker coming off the bench, I'd look at you like you were crazy.

There's a really good team in there somewhere. Kudos to Casey for taking them this far but, it might be time for a different voice in the locker room.

Nobody obvious is taking LBJ's place the way LBJ replaced Jordan as league centrepiece. Nobody.

And is someone like that coming up? We first heard about LeBron at least 2 years before he was drafted.

Is Zion Williamson someone we should be preparing the tank for?

Looks like Drake is already putting in work:

[DrCoach]

No rebuild is gonna beat the favs unless you have Durant to GS scenario

Stay course

Figuring out how much to pay Lowry is the biggest issue

[LastNameEver]

I'm gonna try to re-sign everybody, replace the coach and sell MLSE on it.

I don't wanna do that , but a rebuild will be a **** headache and my Blackberry doesnt have enough battery life to make all those calls.

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[HiMyNameIsTrey]

1. Fire Casey
2. Trade Derozan
3. ???
4. Profit

[Troubadour]

This summer:
- Fire Dwane Casey and hire Jerry Stackhouse to be the new head coach. You want some measure of continuity for the young players, but you also want a new voice to prevent consistent losses in Game 1 and blown leads.

- Test the market for Jonas Valanciunas and DeMarre Carroll prior to draft night. If you can get a second round pick for Carroll and a first for Valanciunas, you take that and run. The goal should be to move on from at least one of the two prior to next season.

- I would draft Semi Ojeleye, Hamidou Diallo or Sindarius Thornwell with the 23rd pick. Athletic wings with size and the ability to defend, shoot, and finish at the rim would be welcome additions to the roster. Each player has a deficiency (Ojeleye is not the most fluid as a ball handler, Diallo is a weaker shooter, and Thornwell is not that creative getting to the rim), but I think they will all be solid pros.

- If you can bring back Ibaka and Lowry for 2-3 years, I think you do that and see how the team performs with a new coach and an added player brought in at the MLE (hopefully regular MLE assuming we can move off of Carroll and not re-sign Patterson). If some team is willing to offer Lowry a four year max, you let him walk. Same goes for Ibaka.

The goal for this coming season, for me, is either to get a final read on the ceiling of this roster with a new coach or to find out what you have in your young players. If you bring back Lowry and Ibaka, you need an answer to that first question by the trade deadline. Unless we are a top 2 seed come the All-Star break, I think you break the team up at that point and get your second question answered. No Lowry or Ibaka means the 905 players should get actual rotation minutes.