Around the NBA: Playoff Edition #2
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Why would he run back to the harder conference? Its even harder there with cupcake over there on GS.
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Lebron is resting while the Wizards/Celtics go 6 or 7.
It looks like the dysfunctional Bulls with Thibs were the last legit threat to a LeBron team in the East.
It looks like the dysfunctional Bulls with Thibs were the last legit threat to a LeBron team in the East.
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That Wizards run in the 3rd was pretty epic. They were doing it all on both ends.
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Proven_Winner wrote:
Why would he run back to the harder conference? Its even harder there with cupcake over there on GS.
Yeah I question this report also for that exact reason.
But he couldn't go wrong with joining the Spurs though.

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G Buckets wrote:Proven_Winner wrote:
Why would he run back to the harder conference? Its even harder there with cupcake over there on GS.
Yeah I question this report also for that exact reason.
But he couldn't go wrong with joining the Spurs though.
Yea the door would be wide open for him there for sure. I guess another thing that could push him that way is that lack of options for PGs in the east. All the good teams have one and all the bad teams aren't even on his list probably. Though I always heard he and derozan are really close so is hard for me to imagine him splitting up from his friend.
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the ultimates wrote:stilldropin20 wrote:the ultimates wrote:
Getting to the foul line or if not fouled getting into the paint causes just as many problems for the defense. That makes role players particularly shooters better but it wouldn't make Ingles or Johnson better Drawing fouls is an underrated and often overlooked skill. Remember when people were begging Derrick in his mvp year to draw more fouls? That doesn't just suddenly go away. Is Jimmy all of sudden not going to be strong next year and draw and power through contact. I'll take Jimmy being an elite player into his 12th and 13th like Shaq was. Small guards like CJ even if they can shoot start to fall off greatly around 29-30 years old.
"power and athletic" based players tend to get hurt more. and always near the end of the season. we've had plenty of experience with that with Rose. Jimmy has been knicked up now for 2 different post seasons (if we are to believe jimmy was even hurt?). hurt or not. he was atrocious in games 3-6. bulls got backdoor swept. blown out by an average of 25 frickin points.
and boston aint even that good. we have seen what a jimmy led team can do. Jimmy is not 19 or 20. he will be 28 before the season starts. his athletic decline has already begun. he doesn't have the skills like elite ball handling or shooting or just good ol' fashioned nuanced ball fakes and eye brow fakes that translate into being great beyond age 30-31. He is just NOT A BASKETBALL SAVANT. This is it for Jimmy. he likely just had his best year ever. it took us to 41 aweful wins. a brutal season.
CJ miles however is indeed a basketball savant. and has polished handles and shooting to go with his floor game.
He is not undersized. Because he is a PG in the modern NBA. and in terms of "size." avery bradley just manhandled Jimmy in the boston series. so size is over rated. see Niko as well.
CJ is 25. basketball savants always improve. sometimes until their mid 30's. when a player like him cant be the #1 option anymore he will still be lethal off ball like ray allen was until his late 30's. they improve by many means. some of which is by teaching young guys how to play better (the right way). the sum of the parts is always stronger than any 1 or 2 individual basketball players. The 60's celtics and 80's lakers and Celtic 90's Bulls SA Spurs over the last 20 years and early pre durant warriors taught us this. Early Shaq and Kobe teams didn't play off each other well at all. PJ taught the lakers how to play for each other as well as brought in players that would teach those 2 to do just that on the court and they 3-peated. CJ Mcollum gets all that and just said the same on TV 2 nights ago about this years spurs team.
These nuanced ideas in basketball are simply just lost on jimmy. i mean we had a former MVP "point guard" on the team and Jimmy answer a question in the summer a few years ago about what posiiton he plays. "point guard." i mean jimmy is kinda dumb.he plays a dumb brand of basketball and says and does dumb things. he seldom if ever does things off ball to make his team mates better. i almost never see jimmy take himself out of a play or make a cut that clears the lane for another player. instead he stands there, clogs that lane with himself and his defender and makes it harder. wade does the same. Yet Jimmy recruited wade and clamored for wade. and butt buddied with wade. and intelligent player/leader of the team would simply go to wade and say, "bruh, we need you to do some things differently." thats part of the reason why the role players look night and day difference with jimmy and wade. NOTE!!! I didn't say the only reason. but its part of the reason. and jimmy either doesn't get this. or doesn't have the balls to stand up to wade and encourage wade to modify his role because he doesn't sense the urgency. and thats in addition to bring close to nothing getting almost nothing out of the role players once rondo went down.
CJ Mcollum OTOH took it to GS, the number #1 defense in the league bar none. and thats with poor offensive fit in lillard dominating the ball.
lillard and Jimmy almost deserve each other. and for what both jimmy and lillard want to do. they are a better fit personality wise. i'd love to give them to each other. love that.
bring CJ over here who would be a young Ray allen type to pair with Rondo(a team first player and solid defender). Sign James Johnson (also a team player good defender)and Joe Ingles(very much a team player and tough nosed defender). groom Zip, grant, and Val with them and thats pretty decent team. maybe payne can be the selfish gunner off the bench? with wade?
i'm ready for a new direction.
You type a whole lot words but aren't really saying anything. Jimmy is going to be 28 and CJ 26. That is far from some huge age difference. For a basketball savant in Mccollum the best he could playing with another all-star caliber player is be .500. Jimmy did that with far less help.
Then this tired ass Jimmy doesn't make players better stuff needs to die a horrible fiery death. It doesn't show up in any regular or advanced stats yet you keep beating this drum with your flawed eye test. By what exact measure did Mccollum take it to Golden state? 23pts on 40% shooting from the field? A per of 13.3?
I was thinking the exact same thing. How does one type so much without actually saying anything of merit, much less worth debating?
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raptors have talent but they have no belief in themselves, they need a Thibs type coach to give it to them.
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jc23 wrote:raptors have talent but they have no belief in themselves, they need a Thibs type coach to give it to them.
They respected LBJ too much. DeRozan treated him like he was a "god" with his comments.

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At their best Washington are my sleeper team, imo. They can be real good.
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Mech Engineer wrote:Lebron is resting while the Wizards/Celtics go 6 or 7.
It looks like the dysfunctional Bulls with Thibs were the last legit threat to a LeBron team in the East.
Yup.... and LeBron always knew this. This is why he rooted for Wade and shook the hand of Paul George. They weren't legit threats to him. But hr knew we were.
If Jimmy arrived two years earlier, this whole ordeal could've been different.
What can you do?
NBA Playoffs.... I can never wait!
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kyrv wrote:R3AL1TY wrote:wait a minute...I'm watching the Raptors against the Lebrons...Deron Williams just went down after the Raptors scored a bucket. It was a non call with PJ Tucker moving his forearms towards him while Ibaka got the basket, yet the refs get to do a replay on a non foul call to see if it is a tech or a flagrant? smh
This replay system is just holding up the game more than before.
That's wild. They must have the green light in an effort to clean up the game. Big picture, probably a good thing because dirty players can often get away with stuff when nobody is looking. Now everyone is looking.
Why that was not done with the Celtics, don't know.
Yeah, Olynyk is one slick bastard. I ended up checking the NBA Replay guidelines and I saw where the refs can arbitrarily review any play they deem as an altercation even if no flagrant or foul was called or no fists were thrown.
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PMONSTER wrote:Mech Engineer wrote:Lebron is resting while the Wizards/Celtics go 6 or 7.
It looks like the dysfunctional Bulls with Thibs were the last legit threat to a LeBron team in the East.
Yup.... and LeBron always knew this. This is why he rooted for Wade and shook the hand of Paul George. They weren't legit threats to him. But hr knew we were.
If Jimmy arrived two years earlier, this whole ordeal could've been different.
What can you do?
Yep...these teams facing the Lebrons are weaker than the Bulls team under Thibs. Old Man Bron is getting all the rest he needs until they play the Warriors. He can even ride Kyrie's production in the 4th quarter while he gets tired or a little invisible. But I think the Lebrons now compared to his Miami days shoot 3s better despite their defense being bad.
If big name free agents in the East are looking to have an exodus to the West, it will give the Lebrons more easier roads to the Finals.
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Boston's defense is so brutally bad. It would take the lowest talent in the NBA, and the worst coach, not to score 100+ on Boston repeatedly.
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Ice Man wrote:Boston's defense is so brutally bad. It would take the lowest talent in the NBA, and the worst coach, not to score 100+ on Boston repeatedly.
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