Official: Felix Pie tracking thread

2poor · Post #41 » by **2poor** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:10 am

http://www.allcubs.com/2007/02/felix_pie_is_no.html

Pretty solid article/blog on how Pie is nothing like Patterson.

treyZz · Post #42 » by **treyZz** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:11 am

Rodanlee wrote:i understand that it's no coincidence that felix has been on winning teams throughout his career, but right NOW, Jacque is the better hitter and has proved it throughout his career... ITS CALLED A SLUMP. He also didn't get extended opportunites to get back in a groove until felix got sent down and jacque had the guarantee that he had consistent playing time without having to worry about losing his starting job. when guys get in slumps, they press, they try too hard and it gets worse with the threat of a guy taking over your job... you said the same with matt murton.

3 out of the 4 past seasons he's been in a slump then? :nonono:

He is a below average player who does nothing well.

Take another hit from the crack pipe and step away from the keyboard.

Rodanlee · Post #43 » by **Rodanlee** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:14 am

i didn't mean to compare him directly to patterson... i just mean that the cubs should let him develop a little more and work and some of the little things that lou has had him work on. just a little wary of corey because they both strike out a lot and never walk. the cubs are winning. until they need a spark, i see no reason to rush pie back to the majors.

treyZz · Post #44 » by **treyZz** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:15 am

"the cubs are winning. until they need a spark, i see no reason to rush pie back to the majors."

So, Lou shouldn't field the best team? He should keep running out the B team as long as we're winning? False.

Lou should put the best team on the field and the best team possible team includes Pie in CF.

2poor · Post #45 » by **2poor** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:17 am

Pie is ready for this stage though, thats the point.

The Cubs did a terrible job handling Patterson's development, but Pie has been babied and brought up the right way. He's excelled at every minor league level of competition, and its now time for him to get his chance to excel on the biggest stage of all. He has nothing left to prove in the minors and nothing left to develop. His next (and final) stage of development is everyday CF for the Cubs.

2poor · Post #46 » by **2poor** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:18 am

treyZz wrote:"the cubs are winning. until they need a spark, i see no reason to rush pie back to the majors."

So, Lou shouldn't field the best team? He should keep running out the B team as long as we're winning? False.

Lou should put the best team on the field and the best team possible team includes Pie in CF.

If anything, you want to bring Pie up right now while the Cubs are so hot. Players feed off of each other, and the momentum of the team.

Rodanlee · Post #47 » by **Rodanlee** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:19 am

I wouldn't go so far to say .250 in his prime. in 5 of his 9 years in mlb he hit above .285

and overall, he's not a bad fielder. granted he doesn't have nearly the speed, range, or arm of felix pie... but he's an avg cf and has a good arm when he's not a head case throwing the ball straight into the ground... which i'll admit nowadays is most of the time.

Rodanlee · Post #48 » by **Rodanlee** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:21 am

and he is the reason the cubs won today

2poor · Post #49 » by **2poor** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:21 am

I'm not going to bash JJ, but past numbers aside, there is no reason why he should be playing over Pie right now.

Let Pie scuffle now, while the rest of the team is hot. Right now it looks like at best he'll be a September call-up, and that is not the time we want guys scuffling.

2poor · Post #50 » by **2poor** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:22 am

Rodanlee wrote:and he is the reason the cubs won today

Aramis is the reason why the Cubs won today. What JJ did was moot in the grand scheme.

treyZz · Post #51 » by **treyZz** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:22 am

Rodanlee wrote:I wouldn't go so far to say .250 in his prime. in 5 of his 9 years in mlb he hit above .285

and overall, he's not a bad fielder. granted he doesn't have nearly the speed, range, or arm of felix pie... but he's an avg cf and has a good arm when he's not a head case throwing the ball straight into the ground... which i'll admit nowadays is most of the time.

Dude watch him sometime. He is a terrible outfielder.

He always throws the ball into the ground. Making him a useless & a terrible outfielder.

Rodanlee · Post #52 » by **Rodanlee** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:27 am

JJ got the first RBI and took the lead with his second. If he doesn't do that... different circumstances could have led to a completely different outcome for the offense...

2poor · Post #53 » by **2poor** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:28 am

This is assuming that Pie wouldn't have done the same (or better) given the opportunity.

Not to mention, Aramis' 8th inning 3-run HR > 2 runs D'Backs scored.

Rodanlee · Post #54 » by **Rodanlee** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:32 am

but maybe aram wouldn't have even come up in that situation because of jacque getting out earlier in the game...

2poor · Post #55 » by **2poor** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:33 am

Okay, its ridiculous to play the "what if" game. I appreciate JJ's [recent] contributions as much as the next guy. but that doesn't change the fact that Pie should be playing in his spot everyday.

Rodanlee · Post #56 » by **Rodanlee** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:35 am

i'll have to disagree but i'll leave it at that

treyZz · Post #57 » by **treyZz** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:40 am

Pie 3/4 - 1 HR, 4 RBI's, 2 runs

.372 average.

It really is sad that he is in Iowa.

2poor · Post #58 » by **2poor** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:49 pm

Meanwhile, JJ's "hot streak" seems to be over as quickly as it begun.

treyZz · Post #59 » by **treyZz** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:50 pm

Anyone else think he looks high here?

This is after his grand slam. :lol:

He must be high on life.

treyZz · Post #60 » by **treyZz** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:06 am

Updated Stats:

#1 in average
#1 in OPS
#3 in OBP
#3 in SLUG

.372 average
.418 OBP
.600 SLUG
1.018 OPS