Only 2 Teams in entire NBA DON'T have a top 7 pick on the roster

[mattao313]

Seems like a rather uninformative way of looking the manner in which teams are built.

Better question: How many top 10 teams have a top 7 pick they DRAFTED on their roster?

Cleveland (Lebron, Kyrie, Tristan), Boston (Smart), Toronto (J Val), OKC (Westbrook), Washington (Wall and Beal), Clippers (Griffin) off the top of my head. None of the top 3 teams (Golden State, San Antonio, Houston) do.

And with Boston it's Marcus Smart, who they'd be about as good without. With Toronto it's Jonas Valanjunas, who there's a lot of discussion about whether or not they should keep. So yeah, that leaves you with really only one true contender (Cleveland) and a few pretenders who have actually built their current rosters around their own lottery picks.

The 2004 and 2005 Pistons were positively aflush with top 7 picks, none of which they actually drafted. It's not an honest way of looking at the situation.

We need to acquire better players. I don't particularly care where they were drafted, and neither did Dumars when he traded for or signed Billups, Sheed, Dice, Rip.

I don't think it matter about If we drafted them or not, like you said we have no top shelf talent and the most likely place to get one in the top of the draft.

[Billl]

"I don't think it matter about If we drafted them or not, like you said we have no top shelf talent and the most likely place to get one in the top of the draft."

True that we don't have top talent. Not sure drafting high gets it though.

Of the current playoff teams
Celtics - IT in trade
Wizards - Wall as top pick
Cavs - LBJ as a free agent
Raptors - Derozan - 9th pick
GS - curry 7th pick, KD as a FA
Jazz - Haywood 9th
Spurs - Kawhi 15th draft/trade
Rockets - Harden trade

So, the Wiz are the best team in the NBA who are currently being led by their own top draft pick. All the other top teams were built on a different model.

[mattao313]

"I don't think it matter about If we drafted them or not, like you said we have no top shelf talent and the most likely place to get one in the top of the draft."

True that we don't have top talent. Not sure drafting high gets it though.

Of the current playoff teams
Celtics - IT in trade
Wizards - Wall as top pick
Cavs - LBJ as a free agent
Raptors - Derozan - 9th pick
GS - curry 7th pick, KD as a FA
Jazz - Haywood 9th
Spurs - Kawhi 15th draft/trade
Rockets - Harden trade

So, the Wiz are the best team in the NBA who are currently being led by their own top draft pick. All the other top teams were built on a different model.

Wall, Lebron, Durant, Harden, Westbrook, Chris Paul, Griffin, Irving are all top 5 picks. Sure you don't have to have a top 5 pick to draft a star but sure does increase your chances by a lot. If you can get some top 5 picks it increases your chances of getting those type of players instead of the Andre Drummonds of the world.

[Billl]

Eh - you are just cherry picking players. The chances of getting a star with a top 5 pick instead of a top 9 pick are marginally better. The chances of building a championship contender around one of your top 5 picks is pretty slim. You have to gut your team to be horrible. You get a 20 yr old star and a lotto team. By the time you assemble enough talent, the star is sick of losing and opts for another team.

[Uncle Mxy]

eh - draft slot is pretty meaningless once you actually get to the NBA.

Not true at all! We were one of the best teams in the league with Kwame Brown.

We didn't win any championships until we drafted Darko...just saying.

The name's Dembo. Fennis Dembo.

[mattao313]

Eh - you are just cherry picking players. The chances of getting a star with a top 5 pick instead of a top 9 pick are marginally better. The chances of building a championship contender around one of your top 5 picks is pretty slim. You have to gut your team to be horrible. You get a 20 yr old star and a lotto team. By the time you assemble enough talent, the star is sick of losing and opts for another team.

Not really I'm pretty sure the top 5 of the draft creates a lot more stars than the rest. Also if it takes you 8 years to build a team around your star your FO kinda sucks.

[Billl]

Of the top 10 NBA scorers this year, only 2 were top 5 picks that have stayed with their team - and frankly I think Anthony davis is going to bolt before you NO comes anywhere close to a title. Not many guys stay with 1 team their whole carrier anymore.

[mattao313]

Of the top 10 NBA scorers this year, only 2 were top 5 picks that have stayed with their team - and frankly I think Anthony davis is going to bolt before you NO comes anywhere close to a title. Not many guys stay with 1 team their whole carrier anymore.

Anthony Davis should leave NOLA FO is terrible if they don't trade him in the future he would be there for 8 or more years. If you can't build a suitable team in 8 year something is wrong.

[Pharaoh]

New Orleans is the example of why you shouldn't tank.

Thunder were the example of why you should.

Thunder didn't win a championship with KD, Westbrook, Harden & Ibaka due to ownership

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