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kennydorglas wrote:Jacob WIley? Anyone?
RipCity71252 wrote:kennydorglas wrote:Jacob WIley? Anyone?
Pretty sure I threw his name out in this thread a couple months ago. Haven't watched him play, but from a production/tools standpoint he was interesting to me.
Kinda moves like Aaron Gordon and if he shoots he has a chance.
doordoor123 wrote:If Ilimane Diop is in this draft he should be a top 10 pick. I'd take him before Zach Collins.
doordoor123 wrote:If Ilimane Diop is in this draft he should be a top 10 pick. I'd take him before Zach Collins.
Mirotic12 wrote:doordoor123 wrote:If Ilimane Diop is in this draft he should be a top 10 pick. I'd take him before Zach Collins.
Diop is really good on defense. On offense he just dunks and has a little 8-10 foot jumper. He's definitely a very good defensive prospect, but I don't know about top 10 pick though.
doordoor123 wrote:Mirotic12 wrote:doordoor123 wrote:If Ilimane Diop is in this draft he should be a top 10 pick. I'd take him before Zach Collins.
Diop is really good on defense. On offense he just dunks and has a little 8-10 foot jumper. He's definitely a very good defensive prospect, but I don't know about top 10 pick though.
He's super athletic and very fluid running. His jump shot is improving and he can now step back to 16 feet. I'd take him before both Zach Collins and Dennis Smith Jr. He has a super high floor, great body. Needs a lot of work in the post, but he's a freak defensively. He's one-dimensional, but there are tons of elite one-dimensional players. He's comparible to Serge Ibaka for me, but he's more athletic and more fluid. If players like Clint Capella are starters, this guy will be better at the same role. He's athletically elite for a PF/C.
Mirotic12 wrote:doordoor123 wrote:Mirotic12 wrote:
Diop is really good on defense. On offense he just dunks and has a little 8-10 foot jumper. He's definitely a very good defensive prospect, but I don't know about top 10 pick though.
He's super athletic and very fluid running. His jump shot is improving and he can now step back to 16 feet. I'd take him before both Zach Collins and Dennis Smith Jr. He has a super high floor, great body. Needs a lot of work in the post, but he's a freak defensively. He's one-dimensional, but there are tons of elite one-dimensional players. He's comparible to Serge Ibaka for me, but he's more athletic and more fluid. If players like Clint Capella are starters, this guy will be better at the same role. He's athletically elite for a PF/C.
He kind of reminds me of like a poor man's Mutumbo...more athletic than Mutombo, but he's like Mutumbo physically, only he plays soft. He has a mid range jumper that Mutombo didn't have, but the difference is he plays soft.
He really has that crazy length and shot blocking potential (because of a feel to get the block) like Mutombo, but unlike Mutombo, he's plays soft. Still, the fact he has a decent mid range jumper, and is a decent free throw shooter is nice.
GimmeDat wrote:Thoughts on Kobi Simmons?
doordoor123 wrote:GimmeDat wrote:Thoughts on Kobi Simmons?
I liked him before college and I still like him. He's a project as a PG, but he can be a good shooting guard. He has a great first step, but he needs to finish better. I kind of compare him to a raw Brandon Knight. He loves those pull-up mid-range shots. He just needs to be refined overall. Just super hot and cold right now because his shot isn't consistent. If he ever becomes a point guard he could be really good offensively. If not, he could become a quick scorer.
Mirotic12 wrote:doordoor123 wrote:Mirotic12 wrote:
Diop is really good on defense. On offense he just dunks and has a little 8-10 foot jumper. He's definitely a very good defensive prospect, but I don't know about top 10 pick though.
He's super athletic and very fluid running. His jump shot is improving and he can now step back to 16 feet. I'd take him before both Zach Collins and Dennis Smith Jr. He has a super high floor, great body. Needs a lot of work in the post, but he's a freak defensively. He's one-dimensional, but there are tons of elite one-dimensional players. He's comparible to Serge Ibaka for me, but he's more athletic and more fluid. If players like Clint Capella are starters, this guy will be better at the same role. He's athletically elite for a PF/C.
He kind of reminds me of like a poor man's Mutumbo...more athletic than Mutombo, but he's like Mutumbo physically, only he plays soft. He has a mid range jumper that Mutombo didn't have, but the difference is he plays soft.
He really has that crazy length and shot blocking potential (because of a feel to get the block) like Mutombo, but unlike Mutombo, he's plays soft. Still, the fact he has a decent mid range jumper, and is a decent free throw shooter is nice.
GimmeDat wrote:doordoor123 wrote:GimmeDat wrote:Thoughts on Kobi Simmons?
I liked him before college and I still like him. He's a project as a PG, but he can be a good shooting guard. He has a great first step, but he needs to finish better. I kind of compare him to a raw Brandon Knight. He loves those pull-up mid-range shots. He just needs to be refined overall. Just super hot and cold right now because his shot isn't consistent. If he ever becomes a point guard he could be really good offensively. If not, he could become a quick scorer.
He seems athletic and a shot maker. My issue is it seems like he's the sort of kid that physically looks like a great prospect if he's a PG, but is a bit undersized/small frame to be a 2. However, it seems like he likes to play like a scoring guard, but not necessarily that effective off-ball.
Does he have that upside as a passer/floor general to turn in to a PG with time? Because that's where I see most of his NBA upside/appeal.
doordoor123 wrote:GimmeDat wrote:doordoor123 wrote:
I liked him before college and I still like him. He's a project as a PG, but he can be a good shooting guard. He has a great first step, but he needs to finish better. I kind of compare him to a raw Brandon Knight. He loves those pull-up mid-range shots. He just needs to be refined overall. Just super hot and cold right now because his shot isn't consistent. If he ever becomes a point guard he could be really good offensively. If not, he could become a quick scorer.
He seems athletic and a shot maker. My issue is it seems like he's the sort of kid that physically looks like a great prospect if he's a PG, but is a bit undersized/small frame to be a 2. However, it seems like he likes to play like a scoring guard, but not necessarily that effective off-ball.
Does he have that upside as a passer/floor general to turn in to a PG with time? Because that's where I see most of his NBA upside/appeal.
I'm agreed on that. He's definitely undersized for a 2 unless he comes on the bench and is only there for scoring. No matter what he will spend time in the D-League. He needs to learn to be a consistent scorer if he's even going to come off the bench in the NBA, but IF he can learn to distribute, his pick and roll potential is very high. He's not a distributer at all right now, but IMO he has the speed open passing lanes and it could make massing much easier for him. I don't even think he has a bad feel for the game, he just seems comfortable with what he does. His passing is still far away, but he's also really young. Its all really about patience and finding a team that will use him right, but he's definitely a gamble. I could easily see a team giving up on him in a few years, but I could also see him flourishing on the right team.
GimmeDat wrote:Thoughts on Kobi Simmons?
getrichordie wrote:What is the take on Semi Ojeleye? Man people are sleeping on this guy, I feel. Great athlete. Good instincts. A bit of a tweener but it looks like he has a solid foundation to build on going into the NBA. I'm really falling in love with his tools and playmaking on both ends. I think if you put him with the right trainer, great things will happen.
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