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Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader

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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#1501 » by Dogen » Wed May 3, 2017 11:08 am

gimmeFball wrote:I love what Brown is bringing to the floor in the 2nd round. He is focused, he's making the right plays and plays great defence. The pass to Crowder had perfect timing then he drawn two defenders in the post and kicked out for open three. Shame that his attempt of murdering Gortat was unsuccessful. On the defensive side he shut down Wall on a isolation and forced him to pass the ball.


He looked really locked in and focused, not trying to do to much, making the simple things plays, moving the ball quickly, solid position on D, etc. so glad he's getting some quality burn out there.
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Post#1502 » by jfs1000d » Wed May 3, 2017 11:23 am

Yabs isn't on the team. Neither is Nader. They can come around but for shootrounds and practice, that is for Celtics players.


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Post#1503 » by chakdaddy » Wed May 3, 2017 12:28 pm

But if Tony Romo can do it
...why not Drew Bledsoe?
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Post#1504 » by Gomes3PC » Wed May 3, 2017 2:48 pm

Elrod is Back wrote:
Gomes3PC wrote:If all Zizic becomes is someone along the lines of a JV or Gortat, that's still valuable on a rookie deal. I just wouldn't pay big money for him on his 2nd deal if he can't defend the perimeter or hit 3s.


Hey, let's see him in action for awhile before we ponder his second contract that would kick in in five years.

Oh totally agree. I'm psyched to see him in Green. Just more of an overarching comment that these paint-bound bigs could be fading away unless they have DeAndre Jordan rebounding/rim protection skills. Even then, as the Warriors showed vs. Gobert last night, those guys can still be a liability for you in a way even a 5-9 PG isn't.
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Post#1505 » by Elrod is Back » Fri May 5, 2017 10:17 pm

Ante is back to kicking ass in Turkish League games.

Latest effort in win: 18 minutes, 12 points, 7 rebounds, 3 blocks. http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Turkey/2017/0503_195_328.asp

Have fun playing tough guys this year Jennings and Oubre and Morris. Next year try that crap and Ante will have you guys getting dental surgery.
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Post#1506 » by Elrod is Back » Sun May 7, 2017 10:36 pm

On Saturday night Ante helped his team take another Turkish League game. Being the team player he is, Ante shared the limelight.

He played 20 minutes, went 4-4 from the field, scored 8 points, had 3 boards, an assist and a block. No turnovers. http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Turkey/2017/0506_17131_195.asp

One game left, then let's get his fanny to Boston for some workouts with Yabs. Time to Ante Up.
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Post#1510 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu May 11, 2017 11:54 am

Elrod is Back wrote:Ante is back to kicking ass in Turkish League games.

Latest effort in win: 18 minutes, 12 points, 7 rebounds, 3 blocks. http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Turkey/2017/0503_195_328.asp

Have fun playing tough guys this year Jennings and Oubre and Morris. Next year try that crap and Ante will have you guys getting dental surgery.


For real tho. Ante doesn't look like he's playing.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#1511 » by sam_I_am » Thu May 11, 2017 12:04 pm

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Seems like he will be a guy that fans and teammates will love. He seems really humble and willing to embrace trying to be the player he needs to be to help the Celtics. Once the team spends to the limit of the cap, team is going to need for guys like Yabs and Zizac to step up and produce in the 7-10 bench roles and possibly replace the minutes of Amir, Jerebko, Olynyk etc,
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#1513 » by Elrod is Back » Thu May 11, 2017 4:28 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:

Austin Ainge gives the impression the G, as he calls him, can be a defensive stopper.

I approve of that message.
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Post#1514 » by Gant » Thu May 11, 2017 4:54 pm

He definitely has the tools to be a defender. He has to learn.

Austin Ainge's late comment about where do you project Yabusele as a player is telling: We don't know.

It really is just impossible to say with him. There are several reasons to be very enthusiastic about Yabs, and a few to be cautious. He's got a terrific skill and physical package. He's also fairly short for his position and needs to adapt to the huge jump in talent in the NBA.
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Post#1515 » by sam_I_am » Thu May 11, 2017 5:05 pm

Gant wrote:He definitely has the tools to be a defender. He has to learn.

Austin Ainge's late comment about where do you project Yabusele as a player is telling: We don't know.

It really is just impossible to say with him. There are several reasons to be very enthusiastic about Yabs, and a few to be cautious. He's got a terrific skill and physical package. He's also fairly short for his position and needs to adapt to the huge jump in talent in the NBA.


Having a big ass adds 2 inches to your height because it just pushes offensive player further from basket and wider obstacle to get around on rebounds. Then you add in wing span and I don't think height will be an issue. He may have even less of an issue than Milsap or Draymond Green.

I see the biggest limitation to his future to be his foot speed. Unlike Sully, he is a fitness freak but he still carries similar weight. Also, he has to be a decent 3 point shooter to be all that he could be.

Summer league is going to be crazy fun to watch this year.

I just see him as being a can't miss plus player even if his ceiling is as a role player. If he can achieve Milsap like skill with his size and length though - wow what a player they have drafted.
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Post#1516 » by jmr07019 » Thu May 11, 2017 8:50 pm

Many seem to think Gurschon won't be over here next year (maybe they just want to make hayward math easier, I do) but Austin Ainge said Gurschon will be at training camp. You can interpret that however you want. I think the C's want him here next year but might have to stash him again if circumstances call for it.
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Post#1517 » by Elrod is Back » Thu May 11, 2017 8:57 pm

jmr07019 wrote:Many seem to think Gurschon won't be over here next year (maybe they just want to make hayward math easier, I do) but Austin Ainge said Gurschon will be at training camp. You can interpret that however you want. I think the C's want him here next year but might have to stash him again if circumstances call for it.


I think it is highly unlikely he will stashed next year...unless he nosedives in summer league in a manner that would be nothing short of shocking. I think he has a much better shot at rotation minutes next year on the Cs than he does at being stashed.
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Post#1518 » by shackles10 » Thu May 11, 2017 10:15 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
Gant wrote:He definitely has the tools to be a defender. He has to learn.

Austin Ainge's late comment about where do you project Yabusele as a player is telling: We don't know.

It really is just impossible to say with him. There are several reasons to be very enthusiastic about Yabs, and a few to be cautious. He's got a terrific skill and physical package. He's also fairly short for his position and needs to adapt to the huge jump in talent in the NBA.


Having a big ass adds 2 inches to your height


Sullinger should have been playing like Manute Bol. Also is this just limited to basketball height or does your research show the big ass math translates to everything? Either way this is how you get the youth of America interested in math again!
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Post#1519 » by ddb » Fri May 12, 2017 3:12 am

Man, it's just crazy exciting to think that in addition to a Top 4 pick in this draft, we also have Yabusele, Zizic and Nader all likely heading over too. In the case of Zizic & Yabusele, You're talking about 2 of the top international prospects...Nader was excellent in the summer league and then went on to win DLeague ROY. Jaylen is a young stud, Rozier is coming on...Smart is Smart. Let's not forget BK18...
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Post#1520 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri May 12, 2017 8:44 am

sam_I_am wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:


Seems like he will be a guy that fans and teammates will love. He seems really humble and willing to embrace trying to be the player he needs to be to help the Celtics. Once the team spends to the limit of the cap, team is going to need for guys like Yabs and Zizac to step up and produce in the 7-10 bench roles and possibly replace the minutes of Amir, Jerebko, Olynyk etc,


I want Yabu and Zizic both on our bench next season. I'm tired of scrubs who have no future with the team playing major minutes.
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