Official Draft Thread / Pre-Draft Lottery & Workouts Poll

JF5 · Post #1 » by **JF5** » Thu May 11, 2017 10:35 pm

I'm not going to have Fultz, Ball, Jackson obviously as they're the consensus top 3-4... But guys who are realistically in range for the Magic.

*Mod Edit - Updated topic title and poll question (6th pick confirmed).

Viper1500 · Post #2 » by **Viper1500** » Thu May 11, 2017 10:55 pm

Fox or Tatum

Basically someone who can create for themselves

j-ragg · Post #3 » by **j-ragg** » Thu May 11, 2017 11:01 pm

I picked Tatum.

Best fit imo combined with most likely to be there for our slot.

Wouldn't mind a point guard but there's an all-star caliber one on every other team. Could always address that need in other avenues (or just roll with Elf).

Post #4 » by **Def Swami** » Thu May 11, 2017 11:08 pm

If Tatum is there, it's a no brainer IMHO.

Skin · Post #5 » by **Skin** » Thu May 11, 2017 11:48 pm

Who were the first 4 picks?

Global Game · Post #6 » by **Global Game** » Fri May 12, 2017 12:48 am

Lauri Markkanen

A team in need of shooting and skilled front court play drafts...a 7 foot shooter.

cedric76 · Post #7 » by **cedric76** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:15 am

Isaac

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fbeye343 · Post #8 » by **fbeye343** » Fri May 12, 2017 7:47 am

Really hoping we dont end up with Fox. His lack of perimeter shooting will result in the Magic having another year of poor floor fooor spacing and a mediocre offensive rating.

Assuming Fultz and Ball are off the floor I think Monk would be a terrific pick. He can get his own shot and in my opinion is the most talented offensive player in the draft.

Monks critics often state his height as a weakness. This type of thinking can lead to mistakes. Think about how many players were considered "undersized"(Curry, Green, McCollum, Milsap, Thomas etc.) prior to their respective drafts. Especially with the way the NBA game is being called today height is no longer as importnant a variable in determining a players success.

Patrick1978 · Post #9 » by **Patrick1978** » Fri May 12, 2017 11:01 am

Fox or Monk

tiderulz · Post #10 » by **tiderulz** » Fri May 12, 2017 11:08 am

Global Game wrote:Lauri Markkanen

A team in need of shooting and skilled front court play drafts...a 7 foot shooter.

why are you back in this forum? you obviously only want to troll people

tiderulz · Post #11 » by **tiderulz** » Fri May 12, 2017 11:12 am

fbeye343 wrote:Really hoping we dont end up with Fox. His lack of perimeter shooting will result in the Magic having another year of poor floor fooor spacing and a mediocre offensive rating.

Assuming Fultz and Ball are off the floor I think Monk would be a terrific pick. He can get his own shot and in my opinion is the most talented offensive player in the draft.

Monks critics often state his height as a weakness. This type of thinking can lead to mistakes. Think about how many players were considered "undersized"(Curry, Green, McCollum, Milsap, Thomas etc.) prior to their respective drafts. Especially with the way the NBA game is being called today height is no longer as importnant a variable in determining a players success.

it isnt just his height, its that and wingspan. Curry is not undersized for his position. Green and Millsap slightly undersized, but make up for it with 7'1" wingspans. CJ is 6'3 with a 6'6 wingspan, and still might be better at PG than SG, but they have Lillard at PG. Monk is 6'3 with 6'3 wingspan. his handles wont allow him to play PG. he is going to be more a Louis Williams type of player in my opinion. Combo guard for offense, and im not sure how well he will get his own shot off against NBA defenders.

Nemesis21 · Post #12 » by **Nemesis21** » Fri May 12, 2017 11:22 am

Patrick1978 wrote:Fox or Monk

Both would be a terrible pick for us at 5.

drsd · Post #13 » by **drsd** » Fri May 12, 2017 11:47 am

Makes sense Tatum will win given that he is the highest ranked SF still available. I would be happy with that outcome.

OrlandoDream · Post #14 » by **OrlandoDream** » Fri May 12, 2017 1:01 pm

Like the majority, Tatum is our #1 guy but if he is gone, I take Isaac and run.

fbeye343 · Post #15 » by **fbeye343** » Fri May 12, 2017 1:13 pm

tiderulz wrote:
fbeye343 wrote:Really hoping we dont end up with Fox. His lack of perimeter shooting will result in the Magic having another year of poor floor fooor spacing and a mediocre offensive rating.

Assuming Fultz and Ball are off the floor I think Monk would be a terrific pick. He can get his own shot and in my opinion is the most talented offensive player in the draft.

Monks critics often state his height as a weakness. This type of thinking can lead to mistakes. Think about how many players were considered "undersized"(Curry, Green, McCollum, Milsap, Thomas etc.) prior to their respective drafts. Especially with the way the NBA game is being called today height is no longer as importnant a variable in determining a players success.

it isnt just his height, its that and wingspan. Curry is not undersized for his position. Green and Millsap slightly undersized, but make up for it with 7'1" wingspans. CJ is 6'3 with a 6'6 wingspan, and still might be better at PG than SG, but they have Lillard at PG. Monk is 6'3 with 6'3 wingspan. his handles wont allow him to play PG. he is going to be more a Louis Williams type of player in my opinion. Combo guard for offense, and im not sure how well he will get his own shot off against NBA defenders.

I've watched almost every one of his games this year. IMHO Monk is a totally different player than Lou. Monk has elite athleticism and can play above the rim. His handles and passing are much better than he is given credit for. I really think Bradley Beal is a good comparison. I realize I'm in the minority but I believe he will end up being the third best player in the draft after Fultz and Ball

Post #16 » by **Howard Mass** » Fri May 12, 2017 1:39 pm

We still do not know the results of the Draft Lottery............

tiderulz · Post #17 » by **tiderulz** » Fri May 12, 2017 4:45 pm

fbeye343 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
fbeye343 wrote:Really hoping we dont end up with Fox. His lack of perimeter shooting will result in the Magic having another year of poor floor fooor spacing and a mediocre offensive rating.

Assuming Fultz and Ball are off the floor I think Monk would be a terrific pick. He can get his own shot and in my opinion is the most talented offensive player in the draft.

Monks critics often state his height as a weakness. This type of thinking can lead to mistakes. Think about how many players were considered "undersized"(Curry, Green, McCollum, Milsap, Thomas etc.) prior to their respective drafts. Especially with the way the NBA game is being called today height is no longer as importnant a variable in determining a players success.

it isnt just his height, its that and wingspan. Curry is not undersized for his position. Green and Millsap slightly undersized, but make up for it with 7'1" wingspans. CJ is 6'3 with a 6'6 wingspan, and still might be better at PG than SG, but they have Lillard at PG. Monk is 6'3 with 6'3 wingspan. his handles wont allow him to play PG. he is going to be more a Louis Williams type of player in my opinion. Combo guard for offense, and im not sure how well he will get his own shot off against NBA defenders.

I've watched almost every one of his games this year. IMHO Monk is a totally different player than Lou. Monk has elite athleticism and can play above the rim. His handles and passing are much better than he is given credit for. I really think Bradley Beal is a good comparison. I realize I'm in the minority but I believe he will end up being the third best player in the draft after Fultz and Ball

Beal is 6'5 with a 6'8 wingspan. Monk is much smaller. you have higher expectations on him that i do.

Landshark · Post #18 » by **Landshark** » Fri May 12, 2017 4:47 pm

Why was I the only one who picked DSJ?

Pretty good article about him:
https://theringer.com/2017-nba-draft-dennis-smith-jr-nc-state-wolfpack-b220c78d9b5c

For as much as Smith has been criticized for not getting more out of his teammates, the NC State offense collapsed when he wasn’t in. Of the top four NCAA point guards in this year’s draft, Smith made the biggest impact on his team’s offensive rating (numbers courtesy of hooplens.com):

Smith is a well-rounded offensive player. He can attack the rim, finish through contact, get to the free throw line, and knock down 3s off the dribble. He leads the elite point guards in this year’s draft in free throw rate, and trails only Fox when it comes to the percentage of shots he takes at the rim. The only one with a higher field goal percentage at the rim was Ball, and over half his shots were assisted, an indication of how well UCLA spaced the floor and moved the ball, and how many different threats the Bruins had on offense (numbers courtesy of hoop-math.com):

rcklsscognition · Post #19 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri May 12, 2017 4:50 pm

Lauri Markkanen is the pick 5th or later.

fbeye343 · Post #20 » by **fbeye343** » Fri May 12, 2017 5:08 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Lauri Markkanen is the pick 5th or later.

Very interested to hear your opinion on Markkanen. His weaknesses are obvious-length, athleticism, strength, rebounding, defense etc.

How good do you think he can be offensively?

Do you think he can play center next to Gordon at the 4?

Any comps?

Who do the Magic take with the 6th Pick?