Snapbacks and Handshakes: The 2017 Draft (Raps pick #23)

[Jermaine OBosh]

I "called" Wright and Poetl but only because I thought they were no brainers. Totally surprised me that Masai went that route. Going to be way off this year guaranteed.

I like Diallo and Giles for star/upside potential.

I like Evans speed and agility game especially if we know-conclude KL is a deathstar overpay.

I like TJ Leaf as shooting offence off the bench. Don't like the Troy Murphy comparison at all.

I like Sindarius Thornwell with a second acquired pick.

I like the active hands and motor of Wilson.

I think Leaf is this year's David Lee. A guy who could seriously play offense and rebound, but his defense made him expendable. For those who remember David Lee in his first couple years he was terrific offensively. He would always struggle on the other side of the ball though.

Wasn't Lee a hail mary pick by Miami in the second round?

wasn't he picked by Knicks, I believe he was the 30th pick.

[HeadtopChunes]

Wingspan is important in the new NBA. Especially with this historically great and abundance of three point shooting. In terms of prospects we should go to the ones with great wingspans, high volume 3 point shooting, elite 3P%, and athleticism ahead of anything else. Next I look for handles, quickness, program, and personal upbringing. From that criterion I see Semi Ojeleye, Devin Robinson, and Jonah Bolden as guys we should trade down for with Philly. Giving great length, shooting, youth, and immediate impact.

In terms of potential I'm talking of lateral quickness, finishing at the rim, mobility, and explosiveness. Added for clarity.

I mean Semi isn't exactly one with an elite wingspan either 6'10 is pretty average but I get your point. Posisonless basketball is the new thing. Thing is Bell would be very useful here. His ability to switch and stay with anyone on the perimeter and protect the paint is really useful. Paired with Ibaka would be extremely good.

If love to get both Bell and Semi but that might not be realistic.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Where do you take this guy in the draft? (Please don't say his name if you know who it is)

6'9"
250 lbs
7'4" wingspan
9'0" standing reach
37" max vert

Basically averages a double double in college, and makes over one 3 a game on over 48% shooting. Oh yeah, his hands are bigger than Kawhi Leonard's...

[HeadtopChunes]

Where do you take this guy in the draft? (Please don't say his name if you know who it is)

6'9"
250 lbs
7'4" wingspan
9'0" standing reach
37" max vert

Basically averages a double double in college, and makes over one 3 a game on over 48% shooting. Oh yeah, his hands are bigger than Kawhi Leonard's...

I mean anyone can look amazing if you only say their strengths. I do know who you are talking about and he wouldn't be a bad pick at 23.

[Red_Claw]

Wingspan is important in the new NBA. Especially with this historically great and abundance of three point shooting. In terms of prospects we should go to the ones with great wingspans, high volume 3 point shooting, elite 3P%, and athleticism ahead of anything else. Next I look for handles, quickness, program, and personal upbringing. From that criterion I see Semi Ojeleye, Devin Robinson, and Jonah Bolden as guys we should trade down for with Philly. Giving great length, shooting, youth, and immediate impact.

In terms of potential I'm talking of lateral quickness, finishing at the rim, mobility, and explosiveness. Added for clarity.

Justin Jackson of Maryland is also in that category. In highschool, this guy was a passer and has been a man child since. In college, he's been used as a 3-D role player which is also good because he's now a 43% 3pt shooter. 7-3 wingspan with a wide frame to add alot of strength.

I gotta wonder if this guy gets much less attention because of the other Justin Jackson of the NCAA champions, UNC.

If he stays in the draft, he's gotta be someone we look at. Could be our 905 star for a couple years.

[iqbalpanchod]

Wingspan is important in the new NBA. Especially with this historically great and abundance of three point shooting. In terms of prospects we should go to the ones with great wingspans, high volume 3 point shooting, elite 3P%, and athleticism ahead of anything else. Next I look for handles, quickness, program, and personal upbringing. From that criterion I see Semi Ojeleye, Devin Robinson, and Jonah Bolden as guys we should trade down for with Philly. Giving great length, shooting, youth, and immediate impact.

In terms of potential I'm talking of lateral quickness, finishing at the rim, mobility, and explosiveness. Added for clarity.

Justin Jackson of Maryland is also in that category. In highschool, this guy was a passer and has been a man child since. In college, he's been used as a 3-D role player which is also good because he's now a 43% 3pt shooter. 7-3 wingspan with a wide frame to add alot of strength.

I gotta wonder if this guy gets much less attention because of the other Justin Jackson of the NCAA champions, UNC.

If he stays in the draft, he's gotta be someone we look at. Could be our 905 star for a couple years.

He's not on some mock drafts. My personal hope? He goes undrafted and wants back in Canada. I'd sign him to a norman contracy quick.

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[BoyzNTheHood]

Where do you take this guy in the draft? (Please don't say his name if you know who it is)

6'9"
250 lbs
7'4" wingspan
9'0" standing reach
37" max vert

Basically averages a double double in college, and makes over one 3 a game on over 48% shooting. Oh yeah, his hands are bigger than Kawhi Leonard's...

I mean anyone can look amazing if you only say their strengths. I do know who you are talking about and he wouldn't be a bad pick at 23.

Giving the raw details are the idea behind this.

p.s. You don't know who it is (if you think you do PM me his name)

[iqbalpanchod]

Justin Jackson of Maryland?

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[BoyzNTheHood]

Justin Jackson of Maryland?

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Nope. He doesn't have the hand size of Kawhi.

[iqbalpanchod]

OG?

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[PhilBlackson]

Preparing myself for the Lakers to "conveniently" win the lottery.

Here's hoping they lose their pick, so sick of the most spoiled franchise of all time.

Knicks would get a top 3 pick too if it was rigged

Woah woah there...one big NBA plot at a time! lol

Phil & the Knicks still need to get over their "Melo-drama"...

When they do next year and he finally waives his trade clause they'll be rewarded with a nice little going away present aka Micheal Porter Jr and when they do some great new NBA plots are all set for the future Porter Jr & Porz vs Simmons & Embiid, Giannis & the Bucks...so even when LBJ is faded and gone there is a new 3 headed monster to build hype around. It's the draft you have to think more long term

They tried to help out LA last year while rebirthing a large market like PHI with Simmons with Ingram but turns out the product wasn't as advertised....promising talent & skills but KD 2.0, he is not. But hey now we got Magic bringing some "excitement" back to maybe their most popular franchise after they did the Mamba Tour and big mouth LaVar will yak until everyone starts watching the Lakers again, Lonzo can learn from Magic (another nice plot twist) while Walton tries to re-create the baby Warriors. They won't be ready to compete for another 4 years which works really, really well for when the Warriors likely finally shows some minor signs of fading and now the plot out West is of when the Warriors "pass the torch". These NBA plots are so good they almost write themselves.

Meanwhile somewhere in the same plot the Raptors went extinct in a footer or something lol

[BoyzNTheHood]

OG?

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It's not a guy from this year. He was drafted within the past 5 years.

[TRex520]

Caleb Swanigan?

[BoyzNTheHood]

It's Noah Vonleh, who turned out to be a low-end role player in the NBA. That basketball IQ is so important.

[Patman]

Never seen him play, but by this description alone, he sounds Michael Beasley-ish.

I get more of a Udonis Haslem vibe from him. Maybe he can be a better 2pat eventually. He kidna does the same stuff as Siakam tho. So that might be a reason to pass

Neither Beasley nor Haslem are good comparisons. Which 1's, 2's, or 3's can they guard? There is no comparison for Jordan Bell in the NBA, he's a unique talent. You can compare him to a couple of guys put together though. Draymond Green on defense, but Taj Gibson on offense with a chance to be a smaller version of Serge Ibaka if he puts the work in.

I watched videos of Bell out of interest. He's going to be a plus defender, but there's no way he'll guard any competent guard in the NBA. Did you forget how Norm torched Anthony Davis? You're telling me Bell can be a better perimeter defender than Brow in the NBA?

Also, people forget how much of a beast that Beas was in college.

[WeTheNorth123]

It's Noah Vonleh, who turned out to be a low-end role player in the NBA. That basketball IQ is so important.

To be fair....he has improved every year and he is still younger or the same age as some of the the following players in this draft

- Justin Jackson
- Dwayne Bacon
- Jordan Bell
- Jaron Blossomgame
- Sindarius Thornwell
- Semi Ojeleye

[BoyzNTheHood]

I get more of a Udonis Haslem vibe from him. Maybe he can be a better 2pat eventually. He kidna does the same stuff as Siakam tho. So that might be a reason to pass

Neither Beasley nor Haslem are good comparisons. Which 1's, 2's, or 3's can they guard? There is no comparison for Jordan Bell in the NBA, he's a unique talent. You can compare him to a couple of guys put together though. Draymond Green on defense, but Taj Gibson on offense with a chance to be a smaller version of Serge Ibaka if he puts the work in.

I watched videos of Bell out of interest. He's going to be a plus defender, but there's no way he'll guard any competent guard in the NBA. Did you forget how Norm torched Anthony Davis? You're telling me Bell can be a better perimeter defender than Brow in the NBA?

Also, people forget how much of a beast that Beas was in college.

Do you think people would tab Draymond Green as a more heralded defender than Anthony Davis? Just because Davis is long and quick doesn't mean he can defend guards. Bell does it, and showed why when he set the fastest shuttle time in combine history. Faster than Anthony Davis. Faster than any guard. The lateral quicks are real.

[HeadtopChunes]

I get more of a Udonis Haslem vibe from him. Maybe he can be a better 2pat eventually. He kidna does the same stuff as Siakam tho. So that might be a reason to pass

Neither Beasley nor Haslem are good comparisons. Which 1's, 2's, or 3's can they guard? There is no comparison for Jordan Bell in the NBA, he's a unique talent. You can compare him to a couple of guys put together though. Draymond Green on defense, but Taj Gibson on offense with a chance to be a smaller version of Serge Ibaka if he puts the work in.

I watched videos of Bell out of interest. He's going to be a plus defender, but there's no way he'll guard any competent guard in the NBA. Did you forget how Norm torched Anthony Davis? You're telling me Bell can be a better perimeter defender than Brow in the NBA?

Also, people forget how much of a beast that Beas was in college.

I mean elite guards a torch any big in the NBA. Even Draymond can't guard good guard for more than a couple seconds on a switch but Bell has shown he has the lateral quickness to contain and keep up with most guards. His combine results showed some superb lateral quickness he was up there with the guards. His wingspan would be the limiting factor but it's not that short and good defensive positioning would remedy most of that.

[aminiaturebuddha]

He's not on some mock drafts. My personal hope? He goes undrafted and wants back in Canada. I'd sign him to a norman contracy quick.

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He's not on some mock drafts because most expect that he's just testing the waters this year and will go back to Maryland for another year. Although the buzz around him following the Draft Combine may push him into the draft if he gets a first round promise.

[PhilBlackson]

I would LOVE to buy a pick in the 2nd rd to grab Jordan Bell but not with our 1st.