Around the NBA: Playoff Edition #2

kyrv · Post #1681 » by **kyrv** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:33 am

dice wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:
dice wrote:is NOBODY going to point out the flagrant hypocrisy of popovich pretending to be incredulous about this?

Not at all.

He acknowledged during his rant that it was an issue in the past (referring to Bowen and other's who were notorious for doing the same thing) and the league wanting to stamp it out for years.

And lets be real, he is sending a message to the league, as well as the refs, but most of all, he is standing up for his team so they can rally behind something. This is what a great coach does, they attempt to use any sort of mental motivation tactics to the advantage of their team.

all true...and it's still the epitome of hypocrisy

Kind of but not really. It specifically should be out of the game, for a while now.

I can see where you wouldn't pick the Spurs as the messenger, but it was their guy who got hurt.

League saying I guess it was fine.

kyrv · Post #1682 » by **kyrv** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:34 am

McBuckets3 wrote:i wished Niko was half as good as Olynik...

Granted.

kyrv · Post #1683 » by **kyrv** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:36 am

JordansBulls wrote:
Polynice4Pippen wrote:That was a fun little series. Boston will compete and play with heart against Cleveland, but I can't see them winning more than 1 game, if that. We'll see though.

If Boston wins all of it's home games they will win the series.

Thank you for doing the math research on that one.

Post #1684 » by **kingkirk** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:37 am

kyrv wrote:You are correct. I think he does not understand the attachment fans of that era have to Jordan. There are many people who will likely never jump ship, even if/when the next big thing is a Bull.

Yeah, except I didn't say Bulls fans would pick LeBron over Jordan, so thank you for your contributions.

Post #1685 » by **kingkirk** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:39 am

kulaz3000 wrote:It goes to show how much luck is involved with the NBA or any sports for that matter.

We may not have swept the Celtics even with a healthy Rondo, but I think even a significant amount of Celtics fans would admit that we would have eventually won that series if we had a healthy team. And yet here we are, well into our fishing break, while the Celtics go to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Sometimes it's tough being a sports fan.

How does having Rondo stop the Celtics adjusting to different PNR schemes and moving Green into the lineup? Horford still kills our bigs in PNR, Green still is spacing the floor so we can't cover.

We still lose. Rondo played one great game.

dice · Post #1686 » by **dice** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:39 am

kyrv wrote:
dice wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:
Not at all.

He acknowledged during his rant that it was an issue in the past (referring to Bowen and other's who were notorious for doing the same thing) and the league wanting to stamp it out for years.

And lets be real, he is sending a message to the league, as well as the refs, but most of all, he is standing up for his team so they can rally behind something. This is what a great coach does, they attempt to use any sort of mental motivation tactics to the advantage of their team.

all true...and it's still the epitome of hypocrisy

Kind of but not really. It specifically should be out of the game, for a while now.

I can see where you wouldn't pick the Spurs as the messenger, but it was their guy who got hurt.

League saying I guess it was fine.

impossible to prove that he did it intentionally. lots of media talking heads don't think he did.

jc23 · Post #1687 » by **jc23** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:41 am

b2b years overachievers facing lebron in the ecf, but when you really look at the east its not like any team really stood out outside of Cleveland anyway.

dice · Post #1688 » by **dice** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:43 am

vegas has cavs at 83% to win series

Post #1689 » by **GimmeDat** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:43 am

This is going to sound like tooting my own horn (it is), but also to show how underrated Beals reputation changed over the course of the last few years - back when Niko actually had value around the league, I think this was Rose and Jo's final year, I was clamouring for a deal like Niko/1st for Beal. I even went to the Wiz board and they were on board. At the time, Beal was considered a ticking time bomb with his injuries, somewhat questionable efficiency wise, and about to be overpaid on what could become an albatross contract. Now look at him.

The other take away from this series - Boston is now an ECF team. If they look even remotely respectable against Cleveland, I think the chances of them pushing for a Butler/George deal increase dramatically. You can already see Boston RealGM fans chomping at the bit to go all in where they previously thought it wasn't worth it. Be worth keeping an eye on, especially if the Brooklyn pick falls from 1st spot.

Polynice4Pippen · Post #1690 » by **Polynice4Pippen** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:44 am

JordansBulls wrote:
Polynice4Pippen wrote:That was a fun little series. Boston will compete and play with heart against Cleveland, but I can't see them winning more than 1 game, if that. We'll see though.

If Boston wins all of it's home games they will win the series.

Obviously

JordansBulls · Post #1691 » by **JordansBulls** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:51 am

dice wrote:vegas has cavs at 83% to win series

They were at 100% in 2009 vs Orlando.

Post #1692 » by **DuckIII** » Tue May 16, 2017 3:53 am

Tonight was a good night for me and the blow it up crowd. The closer Boston gets to the finals, the closer they get to trading for Butler.

Post #1693 » by **Payt10** » Tue May 16, 2017 4:02 am

DuckIII wrote:Tonight was a good night for me and the blow it up crowd. The closer Boston gets to the finals, the closer they get to trading for Butler.

Probably true. Wonder if they'd give up that BKN pick if it was #1 overall. My guess is no, and that would be a deal breaker for me.

Post #1694 » by **kingkirk** » Tue May 16, 2017 4:13 am

DuckIII wrote:Tonight was a good night for me and the blow it up crowd. The closer Boston gets to the finals, the closer they get to trading for Butler.

I have no gauge on this, but I'm worried that they land the number 1 pick and decide to keep it. They land 2-4, I think that's seriously in play.

But, as I said, I have no idea what Danny is thinking. He could do anything and I'm extremely envious of their position.

Post #1695 » by **HomoSapien** » Tue May 16, 2017 4:27 am

DuckIII wrote:Tonight was a good night for me and the blow it up crowd. The closer Boston gets to the finals, the closer they get to trading for Butler.

It definitely may make Danny more interested in a trade, but from our perspective it makes me want to retool for the playoffs. The Celtics are truly a beatable team, yet they're in the ECF.

Chicagoat · Post #1696 » by **Chicagoat** » Tue May 16, 2017 5:06 am

DuckIII wrote:Tonight was a good night for me and the blow it up crowd. The closer Boston gets to the finals, the closer they get to trading for Butler.

Only if they don't win the lottery. I can see Ainge keeping that pick if it means Fultz. So let's keep those fingers crossed.

Post #1697 » by **Payt10** » Tue May 16, 2017 5:13 am

Read on Twitter

Not as good as the Brady/Goodell one, but this is still pretty funny.

kyrv · Post #1698 » by **kyrv** » Tue May 16, 2017 5:27 am

dice wrote:
kyrv wrote:
dice wrote:all true...and it's still the epitome of hypocrisy

Kind of but not really. It specifically should be out of the game, for a while now.

I can see where you wouldn't pick the Spurs as the messenger, but it was their guy who got hurt.

League saying I guess it was fine.

impossible to prove that he did it intentionally. lots of media talking heads don't think he did.

I thought the play was not legal, regardless of intent. But maybe it wasn't, or the league is saying that is no longer a dangerous play.

He injured Niko on the same thing though, also in the playoffs. He knows what he is doing.

kyrv · Post #1699 » by **kyrv** » Tue May 16, 2017 5:28 am

Chicagoat wrote:
DuckIII wrote:Tonight was a good night for me and the blow it up crowd. The closer Boston gets to the finals, the closer they get to trading for Butler.

Only if they don't win the lottery. I can see Ainge keeping that pick if it means Fultz. So let's keep those fingers crossed.

Maybe they want to play Ball.

sh0ck · Post #1700 » by **sh0ck** » Tue May 16, 2017 5:29 am

Mark K wrote:
DuckIII wrote:Tonight was a good night for me and the blow it up crowd. The closer Boston gets to the finals, the closer they get to trading for Butler.

I have no gauge on this, but I'm worried that they land the number 1 pick and decide to keep it. They land 2-4, I think that's seriously in play.

But, as I said, I have no idea what Danny is thinking. He could do anything and I'm extremely envious of their position.

If they get the #1 pick, they could still draft Fultz and trade for Butler/George after the Free Agent market plays out.

With an ECF berth (combined with how they play the Cavs), I'm sure they'll be pretty appealing to FAs. And say they are able to add a major piece, they'll be able to have their cake and eat it too.