Marcus Smart

[TheOGJabroni]

I wonder if Ainge knows what his agent is expecting for a salary on his next question. I think he's shown he's an extremely valuable role player but I don't think he can be paid like a starter. At that point, we're better off keeping AB.

[ConstableGeneva]

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Bottle this performance up. Repeat every game vs. Cavs. Too much to ask?

[fallguy]

I literally do not know what to do with Smart. He's arguably had the worst stretch of games in Washington and back to back best games where it mattered in games 6 and 7.

Amazing work by Smart last night.

But that kind of inconsistency, where he's a net negative regularly = role player.

He can still improve and it might happen on a new contract in Boston but we give up a lot with him on offense.

[liveod]

Marcus is perfect for a championship team

[CavemanDoctor]

https://theringer.com/2017-nba-playoffs-boston-celtics-washington-wizards-game-7-marcus-smart-52c05fe7536f

[Half-Full]

Marcus is perfect for a championship team

Yes, he is. While many note that he is not much of a contributor on the offensive end, he is an impactful player. In addition to his tenacious defense, he has an ability to make impactful, game turning plays that are inspirational to his teammates. Ripping the ball out of an opposing player's hands, getting a key rebound in traffic, coming up with a loose ball, making a key pass. His focus and toughness are at a different level, an inspirational level that compensates for his offensive game IMO. As others have noted, he has shown improvement as a distributor and at the free throw line. While he likely will never be a scoring threat, he will always be an impactful player. Last night's game was a perfect example.

[3D Chess]

Marcus is perfect for a championship team

On a role players contract, yep.

[BRUNiNHO91]

Why tradr Crowder?

7m a year for the next 2 yrs is absurd. Insane value deal. Even if he comes off the bench fine.

I don't see any logic in trading crowder.

His contract makes his value higher as a trade asset than his actual game. Reality is he's not a guy that should be in the starting line up of a real contender and he's not a guy that seems ok with taking on a bench role that better suits his skills. He's also not a guy you want to be hanging on to when he asks for 18 million a year two years from now. So just that right there makes him a real big trade candidate in my eyes. Obviously if you can move him to the bench or to the starting 4 and still win then that's a different story, but I don't believe that's realistic at all.

Boston has like 5 guys who provide great value for the money their getting. Marcus, Jae, IT, Bradley and Olynyk being the 5..all 5 guys will ask for major deals in the next few years and only IT and Bradley should get it from us IMO. Maybe not even Bradley..so turning some of them into a Butler soon is probably the idea here.

Brun usually i see eye to eye with you, but i'm not getting your logic here. Crowder isn't a guy you want to hold on to when he ask for 18mil in the summer 2020, but Bradley & Smart are for the summer 18? We can turn those guys into Butler & keep a great deal for a long period of time. or we can make that move & keep a great deal for 1 year? What is better?

We do have a lot of value guys, but years matters. Crowder is ideally a 5th starter. He's getting paid like an 9th man. We have him another 2 years after we loose Bradley & Smart. We have 1 year left of Bradley before he wants 20m. 1 year left of Smart till he wants 10+ a year. Olynyk is now.

Ideally, we flip Brown & Bradley for PG13 say. Or Butler since i'm on this great contract binge. You'd rather trade Crowder for Butler & pay Bradley 18mil next year? So we got IT-25m, Bradley 18m, Butler 18m, Al 27m? Or trade Bradley, keep Crowder & save that extra 11mil for the next 2 years?

& Crowder's 6'6. He shouldn't be doing anything at the PF besides spotting those small ball mins (where it looks like Smart's the PF anyways).

My thing is this .. Give IT his money. Get another star here. Move Bradley cause the money just doesn't add up.

I certainly get what you're saying but I'm looking at it talent wise. Bradley is easily the better player to me so yeah I'd rather have Bradley for one year and give him the contract he deserves the 2nd year over having Crowder for two and having to give him the money he probably doesn't deserve in year 3. I love Jae Crowder but he's a backup SF in my eyes and I can easily see Jaylen giving equal or better production right away starting next year. So to me he's the guy to go. I think your points are valid but they can probably prove my points a bit as to why Jae is a better piece to include in a trade. Bradley will be an expiring while Jae isn't, so his value to other teams might be higher. AB is more valuable staying then leaving.

[bucknersrevenge]

I'm done. I'm just done. Yes he has some strengths. He helps us win in a variety of ways...during the regular season. In the postseason you need real talent. For all he does well, he has little athleticism, while his team defense and IQ is exceptional, his man to man defense is often lacking and he just doesn't do enough at the other end to balance it out. You can't run PnR in the postseason with a guard that is either afraid to shoot a mid range jumper or can't hit it, or both. I'm just all set playing 4 on 5 basketball now. Ship him outta here. I know there's a team out there that needs a defensive role player. Last night was the last straw for me.

F**king done.

If I join you in feeling this way... I feel like he'll win game 7 for us.

So I'm going to go ahead and join the dark side on this for now. Lord knows I want to.

But I'll say again all he needs is to improve his J, and then he's fine if we end up moving other guys out. Clock's more than ticking though. Terry might lose his spaz before Marcus learns to shoot, and while longer-term neither may prove relevant, for most of the year I was hoping/assuming the opposite.

We did it, Buckners! He didn't quite 'win it for us' -- but came up large and sucked me right back in. Grit and Grind East!

I got nothin...

[Fencer reregistered]

Tonight Marcus twice made the same aggressive, effective play against the much larger Tristan Thompson, whom no other Celtic was able to match physically. Unfortunately, it was an illegal play and he was whistled for a foul both times.

He also made successful physical plays against Thompson.

He wound up finishing the game with more fouls than points.

That's all Marcus in a microcosm.

[Golabki]

Historically guards that can't shoot do not get paid.

KCP is going to get 2-5 times what Smart gets because he's 5% better on 3s. Even though he's worse at EVERYTHING ELSE.

Can't wait for Smart's next contract.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

Rozier is better

[BannerStatus]

Marcus is perfect for a championship team

On a role players contract, yep.

Was about to quote then saw this. Agreed. Classic example of guy you love to have on your team, but at what price?

I want him 1st off my bench 10 times out of 10 at a reasonable price. Team building is complicated.

[jfs1000d]

Not a good enough ball handler and shooter. Does plenty of things well, but he just isn't an offensive weapon.


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