Gregg Popovich Critical Of Zaza Pachulia Undercutting Leonard

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Gregg Popovich Critical Of Zaza Pachulia Undercutting Leonard 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Tue May 16, 2017 6:14 am

Gregg Popovich criticized the defensive play by Zaza Pachulia on Kawhi Leonard when he stepped into his landing space following a jump shot. Leonard aggravated his ankle injury and left the game after the play.


"Two step, lead with your foot closeout, is not appropriate. It’s dangerous, it’s unsportsmanlike, it’s just not what anybody does to anybody else," said Popovich.


"This particular individual has a history of that kind of action. You can go back and look at Dallas games for elbowing Patty Mills. The play where he took Kawhi down and locked his arm in Dallas, and could’ve broken his arm. Ask David West, his current teammate, how things went when Zaza was playing for Dallas, and he and David got into it.


"And then think about the history he’s had, and what that means to a team, when it happens last night. Totally unnatural closeout that the league has outlawed years ago and pays great attention to, and Kawhi’s not there.


"And you want to know how we feel about it? You want to know if it lessens our chances or not? We’re playing very possibly the best team in the league. We don’t know what’s going to happen in the East. And 9.75 people out of 10 will figure the Warriors will beat the Spurs. Well, we’ve had a pretty damn good seasons, we’ve played fairly well in the playoffs, and I think we’re getting better. We’re up 23 points in the third quarter and Kawhi goes down, like that. And you want to know if our chances are less? And you want to know how we feel? That’s how we feel."


Pachulia has contended he meant no harm by the dangerous play.


"Who gives a damn about what his intent was. You ever heard of manslaughter? You still go to jail, I think, when you’re texting and you kill someone. All I care is all I saw. All I care about is what happened. And the history there exacerbates the whole situation and makes me very angry."


Longtime Spurs' player Bruce Bowen was defended by Popovich in the past for similar actions.


“The league is just trying to cover its ass,” Popovich said at the time. “I told Bruce, ‘You be Bruce Bowen. You’re the best (expletive) defender in this league. You will NOT change the way you play defense.’


“Stu Jackson is not going to change my team just because he thinks he’s doing the right thing.”

Via Tim Cato/SB Nation

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Post#2 » by posthumecaver » Tue May 16, 2017 6:24 am

Where was this guy when Robert Horry slammed Steve Nash to wall and left him with a broken nose.

Such an hypocrite...
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Post#3 » by danfantastk32 » Tue May 16, 2017 7:29 am

posthumecaver wrote:Where was this guy when Robert Horry slammed Steve Nash to wall and left him with a broken nose.

Such an hypocrite...


Where was he the half-dozen times his boy Bruce Bowen did exactly what Pachulia just did....only far, far, far more obvious? I really like Leonard...I prob slightly pick GS over SA...but I really have no skin in this fight. And I dunno. That play looked pretty damn accidental. He never looked down at his feet to set up. He was closing out....kinda skipping up, and his momentum took him one step forward.

Could it have been intentional?? I guess. But if so....Popp can rest easy knowing Guy's like Zaza learned from the best, and that was Bowen. As a Laker fan...there came a point where Phil's "mind games" and press stuff just got old, predictable, and tiring. Been feeling that way about Popp lately too. Kinda tired of him whining when he wants, and then being the big surly A-hole the next night. Just go coach your squad....and can it.
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Post#4 » by tiderulz » Tue May 16, 2017 11:48 am

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posthumecaver wrote:Where was this guy when Robert Horry slammed Steve Nash to wall and left him with a broken nose.

Such an hypocrite...


Where was he the half-dozen times his boy Bruce Bowen did exactly what Pachulia just did....only far, far, far more obvious? I really like Leonard...I prob slightly pick GS over SA...but I really have no skin in this fight. And I dunno. That play looked pretty damn accidental. He never looked down at his feet to set up. He was closing out....kinda skipping up, and his momentum took him one step forward.

Could it have been intentional?? I guess. But if so....Popp can rest easy knowing Guy's like Zaza learned from the best, and that was Bowen. As a Laker fan...there came a point where Phil's "mind games" and press stuff just got old, predictable, and tiring. Been feeling that way about Popp lately too. Kinda tired of him whining when he wants, and then being the big surly A-hole the next night. Just go coach your squad....and can it.


yeah, Bowen was the first thing that came to my mind also about dirty players. Pops never seem to stop him from doing that when it benefitted him
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Post#5 » by Hoopzilla » Tue May 16, 2017 2:43 pm

Pop of all coaches should not be opening his mouth when it comes to dirty players. Bruce Bowen made a career of threatening to break the ankles of anyone who dared to jump in front of him and Pop never batted an eye. He actually defended Bowen every time it was in issue. How does it feel being on the other side of the ball now Pop? It's so nice when karma visits...
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Post#6 » by Donnyxc » Tue May 16, 2017 3:44 pm

Hoopzilla wrote:Pop of all coaches should not be opening his mouth when it comes to dirty players. Bruce Bowen made a career of threatening to break the ankles of anyone who dared to jump in front of him and Pop never batted an eye. He actually defended Bowen every time it was in issue. How does it feel being on the other side of the ball now Pop? It's so nice when karma visits...

I'm glad everyone is bringing up Bowen. First person I thought of.

"Two step, lead with your foot closeout, is not appropriate. It’s dangerous, it’s unsportsmanlike, it’s just not what anybody does to anybody else," said Popovich.

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Post#7 » by hyberx » Tue May 16, 2017 3:57 pm

Pop knows what he is doing, trying to get an advantage on the court out of a unfortunate situation. Zaza's DRPM is great, despite being slow footed, and he sets some mean screens. Pop attacking him being dirty basically would turn him passive instead of aggressive at least for the next game. Just like how Draymond were largely ineffective in final game 6 after game 5 suspension over a butt tap.

Pop basically took out the Warrior's starting center, even for his 12 to 15 minutes of play, with a 5 minutes talk to the reporters. Good strategy.

Otherwise, as much as I love Pop for his coaching and humor, he really has no right to talk about undercutting given how much he defended Bowen who is known for doing this trick all the time. In Bowen, we are talking about a quick forward/guard who could move his feet agilely, unlike a big giant in Zaza. Look it up on youtube, there are a ton of instances like that.
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Post#8 » by hyberx » Tue May 16, 2017 3:58 pm

Bruce Bowen the ankle breaker. We are not talking about his cross over. Those weren't even called as a foul back then. They should call it the Bruce Bowen Rule now that they call it.

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Post#9 » by hyberx » Tue May 16, 2017 4:24 pm

To be fair, Zaza's past history is more rough play rather than dirty play (no pun intended). He had tussle and fights with different players, because a big guy has to stand his ground especially in a league where he is a minority and foreigner. You don't want to be a push over and be soft especially on the Center spot. His tussle with David West is just two big guys jawing at each others, nothing dirty.

His past play that can be considered dirty and should be flagrant is where he wrapped and pulled on Kawhi's arm when he was on the floor. That is definitely a flagrant one, totally unnecessary.
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Post#10 » by Trever1982 » Tue May 16, 2017 5:09 pm

Gregg Popovich is an anti-white leftist liberal.
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Post#11 » by anatomicbomb » Tue May 16, 2017 9:56 pm

tiderulz wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:
posthumecaver wrote:Where was this guy when Robert Horry slammed Steve Nash to wall and left him with a broken nose.

Such an hypocrite...


Where was he the half-dozen times his boy Bruce Bowen did exactly what Pachulia just did....only far, far, far more obvious? I really like Leonard...I prob slightly pick GS over SA...but I really have no skin in this fight. And I dunno. That play looked pretty damn accidental. He never looked down at his feet to set up. He was closing out....kinda skipping up, and his momentum took him one step forward.

Could it have been intentional?? I guess. But if so....Popp can rest easy knowing Guy's like Zaza learned from the best, and that was Bowen. As a Laker fan...there came a point where Phil's "mind games" and press stuff just got old, predictable, and tiring. Been feeling that way about Popp lately too. Kinda tired of him whining when he wants, and then being the big surly A-hole the next night. Just go coach your squad....and can it.


yeah, Bowen was the first thing that came to my mind also about dirty players. Pops never seem to stop him from doing that when it benefitted him


From the quotes about Bowen, it seems to me that Pop would contend that the rules have changed to outlaw Bowen's type of play. You play the game in the present, not the future or past - the rules have changed and the officiating should reflect that.If the rules had not changed, who knows, Bowen might still be playing, because for the last couple of years that sure seemed like the strongest point of his game.
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Post#12 » by tiderulz » Tue May 16, 2017 11:26 pm

anatomicbomb wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:
Where was he the half-dozen times his boy Bruce Bowen did exactly what Pachulia just did....only far, far, far more obvious? I really like Leonard...I prob slightly pick GS over SA...but I really have no skin in this fight. And I dunno. That play looked pretty damn accidental. He never looked down at his feet to set up. He was closing out....kinda skipping up, and his momentum took him one step forward.

Could it have been intentional?? I guess. But if so....Popp can rest easy knowing Guy's like Zaza learned from the best, and that was Bowen. As a Laker fan...there came a point where Phil's "mind games" and press stuff just got old, predictable, and tiring. Been feeling that way about Popp lately too. Kinda tired of him whining when he wants, and then being the big surly A-hole the next night. Just go coach your squad....and can it.


yeah, Bowen was the first thing that came to my mind also about dirty players. Pops never seem to stop him from doing that when it benefitted him


From the quotes about Bowen, it seems to me that Pop would contend that the rules have changed to outlaw Bowen's type of play. You play the game in the present, not the future or past - the rules have changed and the officiating should reflect that.If the rules had not changed, who knows, Bowen might still be playing, because for the last couple of years that sure seemed like the strongest point of his game.


it was always dirty and illegal.
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Post#13 » by dan-man » Tue May 16, 2017 11:51 pm

Pop what about your homegrown goon Bruce Bowen who undercut all the greats or all those years??

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