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Post#161 » by Cammo101 » Mon May 15, 2017 8:55 pm

5/15/17 (Post Combine)

1. Boston - Markelle Fultz (6'4'', PG, Washington, Fresh.)
2. Phoenix - Josh Jackson (6'8'', SF, Kansas, Fresh.)
3. LA Lakers - Lonzo Ball (6'5'', PG, UCLA, Fresh.)
4. Philadelphia - De'Aaron Fox (6'4'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
5. Orlando - Jayson Tatum (6'8'', SF, Duke, Fresh.)
6. Minnesota - Lauri Markkanen (7'0'', PF, Arizona, Fresh.)
7. New York - Dennis Smith (6'2'', PG, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
8. Sacramento - Frank Ntilikina (6'4'', PG, France)
9. Dallas - Jonathan Isaac (6'10'', SF, Florida State, Fresh.)
10. Sacramento - Zach Collins (7'0'', C, Gonzaga, Fresh.)
11. Charlotte - Malik Monk (6'3'', SG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
12. Detroit - Donovan Mitchell (6'4'', SG, Louisville, Soph.)
13. Denver - OG Anunoby (6'8'', SF, Indiana, Soph.)
14. Miami - Harry Giles (6'10'', PF, Duke, Fresh.)
15. Portland - Jarrett Allen (6'10'', C, Texas, Fresh.)
16. Chicago - Jawun Evans (6'1'', PG, Oklahoma State, Soph.)
17. Milwaukee - Justin Patton (7'0'', C, Creighton, Fresh.)
18. Indiana - TJ Leaf (6'10'', PF, UCLA, Fresh.)
19. Atlanta - Ike Anigbogu (6'10'', C, UCLA, Fresh.)
20. Portland - Justin Jackson (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Jr.)
21. Oklahoma City - DJ Wilson (6'10'', PF, Michigan, Soph.)
22. Brooklyn - Frank Jackson (6'4'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
23. Toronto - Ivan Rabb (6'10'', PF, California, Soph.)
24. Utah - Luke Kennard (6'5'', SG, Duke, Soph.)
25. Orlando - Hamidou Diallo (6'6'', SG, High School/Kentucky)
26. Portland - John Collins (6'10'', PF, Wake Forest, Soph.)
27. Brooklyn - Terrance Ferguson (6'7'', SG, Australia)
28. LA Lakers - Bam Adebayo (6'10'', C, Kentucky, Fresh.)
29. San Antonio - Jonathan Jeanne (7'1'', C, France)
30. Utah - Rodions Kurucs (6'8'', SF, Latvia)

31. Atlanta - Semi Ojeleye (6'7'', SF, SMU, Jr.)
32. Phoenix - Anzejs Pasecniks (7'2'', C, Latvia)
33. Orlando - Isaiah Hartenstein (6'11'', PF, Germany)
34. Sacramento - Johnathan Motley (6'10'', PF, Baylor, Jr.)
35. Orlando - Frank Mason (5'11'', PG, North Carolina, Sr.)
36. Philadelphia - Derrick White (6'5'', SG, Colorado, Sr.)
37. Boston - Omer Yurtseven (7'0'', C, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
38. Chicago - Tony Bradley (6'10'', C, North Carolina, Fresh.)
39. Philadelphia - Mathias Lessort (6'9'', PF, Martinique)
40. New Orleans - PJ Dozier (6'6'', SG, South Carolina, Soph.)
41. Charlotte - Caleb Swanigan (6'9'', PF, Purdue, Soph.)
42. Utah - Jordan Bell (6'8'', PF, Oregon, Jr.)
43. Houston - Thomas Bryant (7'0'', C, Indiana, Soph.)
44. New York - Kyle Kuzma (6'9'', PF, Utah, Jr.)
45. Houston - Tyler Lydon (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Soph.)
46. Philadelphia - Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (6'8'', SF, Kansas, Jr.)
47. Indiana - Edmond Sumner (6'5'', SG, Xavier, Soph.)
48. Milwaukee - Josh Hart (6'6'', SG, Villanova, Sr.)
49. Denver - Jonah Bolden (6'10'', PF, Australia)
50. Philadelphia - Kostja Mushidi (6'5'', SG, Belgium)
51. Denver - Justin Jackson (6'7'', SF, Maryland, Fresh.)
52. Washington - Cameron Oliver (6'8'', PF, Nevada, Soph.)
53. Boston - Alec Peters (6'9'', PF, Valparaiso, Sr.)
54. Phoenix - Sindarius Thornwell (6'5'', SG, South Carolina, Sr.)
55. Utah - Nigel Williams-Goss (6'3'', PG, Gonzaga, Jr.)
56. Boston - Alpha Kaba (6'10'', C, France)
57. Brooklyn - Jaron Blossomgame (6'7'', SF, Clemson, Sr.)
58. New York - Dwayne Bacon (6'7'', SG, Florida State, Soph.)
59. San Antonio - Borisa Simanic (6'10'', PF, Serbia)
60. Atlanta - Kobi Simmons (6'4'', PG, Arizona, Fresh.)
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Re: Official Cammo 2017 Mock Thread 

Post#162 » by Goldbum » Wed May 17, 2017 1:36 am

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Re: Official Cammo 2017 Mock Thread 

Post#163 » by Cammo101 » Wed May 17, 2017 1:41 am

5/16/17 (Post Draft Lottery)

1. Boston - Markelle Fultz (6'4'', PG, Washington, Fresh.)
2. LA Lakers - Lonzo Ball (6'5'', PG, UCLA, Fresh.)
3. Philadelphia - Josh Jackson (6'8'', SF, Kansas, Fresh.)
4. Phoenix - Jayson Tatum (6'8'', SF, Duke, Fresh.)
5. Sacramento - De'Aaron Fox (6'4'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
6. Orlando - Jonathan Isaac (6'10'', SF, Florida State, Fresh.)
7. Minnesota - Lauri Markkanen (7'0'', PF, Arizona, Fresh.)
8. New York - Dennis Smith (6'2'', PG, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
9. Dallas - Malik Monk (6'3'', SG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
10. Sacramento - Zach Collins (7'0'', C, Gonzaga, Fresh.)
11. Charlotte - Donovan Mitchell (6'4'', SG, Louisville, Soph.)
12. Detroit - Frank Ntilikina (6'4'', PG, France)
13. Denver - OG Anunoby (6'8'', SF, Indiana, Soph.)
14. Miami - Harry Giles (6'10'', PF, Duke, Fresh.)
15. Portland - Jarrett Allen (6'10'', C, Texas, Fresh.)
16. Chicago - Jawun Evans (6'1'', PG, Oklahoma State, Soph.)
17. Milwaukee - Justin Patton (7'0'', C, Creighton, Fresh.)
18. Indiana - TJ Leaf (6'10'', PF, UCLA, Fresh.)
19. Atlanta - Ike Anigbogu (6'10'', C, UCLA, Fresh.)
20. Portland - Justin Jackson (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Jr.)
21. Oklahoma City - DJ Wilson (6'10'', PF, Michigan, Soph.)
22. Brooklyn - Frank Jackson (6'4'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
23. Toronto - Ivan Rabb (6'10'', PF, California, Soph.)
24. Utah - Luke Kennard (6'5'', SG, Duke, Soph.)
25. Orlando - Hamidou Diallo (6'6'', SG, High School/Kentucky)
26. Portland - John Collins (6'10'', PF, Wake Forest, Soph.)
27. Brooklyn - Terrance Ferguson (6'7'', SG, Australia)
28. LA Lakers - Bam Adebayo (6'10'', C, Kentucky, Fresh.)
29. San Antonio - Jonathan Jeanne (7'1'', C, France)
30. Utah - Rodions Kurucs (6'8'', SF, Latvia)

31. Atlanta - PJ Dozier (6'6'', SG, South Carolina, Soph.)
32. Phoenix - Anzejs Pasecniks (7'2'', C, Latvia)
33. Orlando - Isaiah Hartenstein (6'11'', PF, Germany)
34. Sacramento - Semi Ojeleye (6'7'', SF, SMU, Jr.)
35. Orlando - Frank Mason (5'11'', PG, North Carolina, Sr.)
36. Philadelphia - Derrick White (6'5'', SG, Colorado, Sr.)
37. Boston - Johnathan Motley (6'10'', PF, Baylor, Jr.)
38. Chicago - Tony Bradley (6'10'', C, North Carolina, Fresh.)
39. Philadelphia - Omer Yurtseven (7'0'', C, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
40. New Orleans - Josh Hart (6'6'', SG, Villanova, Sr.)
41. Charlotte - Jordan Bell (6'8'', PF, Oregon, Jr.)
42. Utah - Jonah Bolden (6'10'', PF, Australia)
43. Houston - Thomas Bryant (7'0'', C, Indiana, Soph.)
44. New York - Kyle Kuzma (6'9'', PF, Utah, Jr.)
45. Houston - Tyler Lydon (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Soph.)
46. Philadelphia - Nigel Williams-Goss (6'3'', PG, Gonzaga, Jr.)
47. Indiana - Edmond Sumner (6'5'', SG, Xavier, Soph.)
48. Milwaukee - Caleb Swanigan (6'9'', PF, Purdue, Soph.)
49. Denver - Mathias Lessort (6'9'', PF, Martinique)
50. Philadelphia - Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (6'8'', SF, Kansas, Jr.)
51. Denver - Justin Jackson (6'7'', SF, Maryland, Fresh.)
52. Washington - Cameron Oliver (6'8'', PF, Nevada, Soph.)
53. Boston - Kostja Mushidi (6'5'', SG, Belgium)
54. Phoenix - Sindarius Thornwell (6'5'', SG, South Carolina, Sr.)
55. Utah - Alpha Kaba (6'10'', C, France)
56. Boston - Alec Peters (6'9'', PF, Valparaiso, Sr.)
57. Brooklyn - Jaron Blossomgame (6'7'', SF, Clemson, Sr.)
58. New York - Dwayne Bacon (6'7'', SG, Florida State, Soph.)
59. San Antonio - Borisa Simanic (6'10'', PF, Serbia)
60. Atlanta - Kobi Simmons (6'4'', PG, Arizona, Fresh.)
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Re: Official Cammo 2017 Mock Thread 

Post#164 » by GreenRiddler » Wed May 17, 2017 1:50 am

Wow Allen, Collins and Jackson. That would be a knock out draft for Portland. i wonder though you don't think he is a lotto talent? I watched film on him and he looks good. All the major mocks have him in the lotto. And history has shown the NCAA champ's best players almost always go to the lotto especially if its a big team like the Tar heels
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Post#165 » by Slava » Wed May 17, 2017 11:24 am

I'd be happy if Adebayo is available at 28th.
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Post#166 » by Spens1 » Wed May 17, 2017 12:12 pm

I'd go with Jeanne actually if he was available. He averaged 4BPG in a pro league along with a 14/10 stat line (his F.G% was garbage though)

7'2 and 7'6 wingspan with a standing reach of 9'5 at 20 years old and whilst he isn't as athletic as Adebayo (who is a freak) he isn't terrible either (around 30 inch vert)
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Post#167 » by Goldbum » Wed May 17, 2017 12:30 pm

I think Mushidi is going to rocket up draft boards. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes late 1st when it's all said and done.
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Post#168 » by MotownMadness » Wed May 17, 2017 12:34 pm

I like this, One of Collins, Ntilikina or Mitchell are good for me. Of course Dallas and NY are really high on Ntilikina apparently so I can see him getting past those two.
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Post#169 » by Cammo101 » Wed May 17, 2017 4:42 pm

GreenRiddler wrote:Wow Allen, Collins and Jackson. That would be a knock out draft for Portland. i wonder though you don't think he is a lotto talent? I watched film on him and he looks good. All the major mocks have him in the lotto. And history has shown the NCAA champ's best players almost always go to the lotto especially if its a big team like the Tar heels


Historically, I've had Jackson in the late lottery for a while now. But, some other guys have moved up in the process and pushed him down a bit. It wouldn't shock me at all though if he went as early as #11 or #12.
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Post#170 » by Cammo101 » Wed May 17, 2017 4:43 pm

Spens1 wrote:I'd go with Jeanne actually if he was available. He averaged 4BPG in a pro league along with a 14/10 stat line (his F.G% was garbage though)

7'2 and 7'6 wingspan with a standing reach of 9'5 at 20 years old and whilst he isn't as athletic as Adebayo (who is a freak) he isn't terrible either (around 30 inch vert)


I came really close to putting him there too. Thought Adabayo's toughness would be useful in LA though. Could see it going either way.
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Post#171 » by Cammo101 » Wed May 17, 2017 4:44 pm

Goldbum wrote:I think Mushidi is going to rocket up draft boards. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes late 1st when it's all said and done.


Very possibly. He's a guy that I like and keep waiting for hype to build behind him, but for whatever reason it hasn't happened yet.
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Post#172 » by nykinoz » Thu May 18, 2017 1:32 am

No Monte Morris? I think NY looks at him in the 2nd for sure.
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Post#173 » by cedric76 » Thu May 18, 2017 4:17 am

Cammo101 wrote:5/16/17 (Post Draft Lottery)

1. Boston - Markelle Fultz (6'4'', PG, Washington, Fresh.)
2. LA Lakers - Lonzo Ball (6'5'', PG, UCLA, Fresh.)
3. Philadelphia - Josh Jackson (6'8'', SF, Kansas, Fresh.)
4. Phoenix - Jayson Tatum (6'8'', SF, Duke, Fresh.)
5. Sacramento - De'Aaron Fox (6'4'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
6. Orlando - Jonathan Isaac (6'10'', SF, Florida State, Fresh.)
7. Minnesota - Lauri Markkanen (7'0'', PF, Arizona, Fresh.)
8. New York - Dennis Smith (6'2'', PG, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
9. Dallas - Malik Monk (6'3'', SG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
10. Sacramento - Zach Collins (7'0'', C, Gonzaga, Fresh.)
11. Charlotte - Donovan Mitchell (6'4'', SG, Louisville, Soph.)
12. Detroit - Frank Ntilikina (6'4'', PG, France)
13. Denver - OG Anunoby (6'8'', SF, Indiana, Soph.)
14. Miami - Harry Giles (6'10'', PF, Duke, Fresh.)
15. Portland - Jarrett Allen (6'10'', C, Texas, Fresh.)
16. Chicago - Jawun Evans (6'1'', PG, Oklahoma State, Soph.)
17. Milwaukee - Justin Patton (7'0'', C, Creighton, Fresh.)
18. Indiana - TJ Leaf (6'10'', PF, UCLA, Fresh.)
19. Atlanta - Ike Anigbogu (6'10'', C, UCLA, Fresh.)
20. Portland - Justin Jackson (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Jr.)
21. Oklahoma City - DJ Wilson (6'10'', PF, Michigan, Soph.)
22. Brooklyn - Frank Jackson (6'4'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
23. Toronto - Ivan Rabb (6'10'', PF, California, Soph.)
24. Utah - Luke Kennard (6'5'', SG, Duke, Soph.)
25. Orlando - Hamidou Diallo (6'6'', SG, High School/Kentucky)
26. Portland - John Collins (6'10'', PF, Wake Forest, Soph.)
27. Brooklyn - Terrance Ferguson (6'7'', SG, Australia)
28. LA Lakers - Bam Adebayo (6'10'', C, Kentucky, Fresh.)
29. San Antonio - Jonathan Jeanne (7'1'', C, France)
30. Utah - Rodions Kurucs (6'8'', SF, Latvia)

31. Atlanta - PJ Dozier (6'6'', SG, South Carolina, Soph.)
32. Phoenix - Anzejs Pasecniks (7'2'', C, Latvia)
33. Orlando - Isaiah Hartenstein (6'11'', PF, Germany)
34. Sacramento - Semi Ojeleye (6'7'', SF, SMU, Jr.)
35. Orlando - Frank Mason (5'11'', PG, North Carolina, Sr.)
36. Philadelphia - Derrick White (6'5'', SG, Colorado, Sr.)
37. Boston - Johnathan Motley (6'10'', PF, Baylor, Jr.)
38. Chicago - Tony Bradley (6'10'', C, North Carolina, Fresh.)
39. Philadelphia - Omer Yurtseven (7'0'', C, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
40. New Orleans - Josh Hart (6'6'', SG, Villanova, Sr.)
41. Charlotte - Jordan Bell (6'8'', PF, Oregon, Jr.)
42. Utah - Jonah Bolden (6'10'', PF, Australia)
43. Houston - Thomas Bryant (7'0'', C, Indiana, Soph.)
44. New York - Kyle Kuzma (6'9'', PF, Utah, Jr.)
45. Houston - Tyler Lydon (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Soph.)
46. Philadelphia - Nigel Williams-Goss (6'3'', PG, Gonzaga, Jr.)
47. Indiana - Edmond Sumner (6'5'', SG, Xavier, Soph.)
48. Milwaukee - Caleb Swanigan (6'9'', PF, Purdue, Soph.)
49. Denver - Mathias Lessort (6'9'', PF, Martinique)
50. Philadelphia - Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (6'8'', SF, Kansas, Jr.)
51. Denver - Justin Jackson (6'7'', SF, Maryland, Fresh.)
52. Washington - Cameron Oliver (6'8'', PF, Nevada, Soph.)
53. Boston - Kostja Mushidi (6'5'', SG, Belgium)
54. Phoenix - Sindarius Thornwell (6'5'', SG, South Carolina, Sr.)
55. Utah - Alpha Kaba (6'10'', C, France)
56. Boston - Alec Peters (6'9'', PF, Valparaiso, Sr.)
57. Brooklyn - Jaron Blossomgame (6'7'', SF, Clemson, Sr.)
58. New York - Dwayne Bacon (6'7'', SG, Florida State, Soph.)
59. San Antonio - Borisa Simanic (6'10'', PF, Serbia)
60. Atlanta - Kobi Simmons (6'4'', PG, Arizona, Fresh.)

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Post#174 » by Cammo101 » Fri May 19, 2017 10:34 pm

5/19/17

1. Markelle Fultz (6'4'', PG, Washington, Fresh.)
2. Josh Jackson (6'8'', SF, Kansas, Fresh.)
3. Lonzo Ball (6'5'', PG, UCLA, Fresh.)
4. De'Aaron Fox (6'4'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
5. Jayson Tatum (6'8'', SF, Duke, Fresh.)
6. Dennis Smith (6'2'', PG, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
7. Lauri Markkanen (7'0'', PF, Arizona, Fresh.)
8. Jonathan Isaac (6'10'', SF, Florida State, Fresh.)
9. Malik Monk (6'3'', SG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
10. Zach Collins (7'0'', C, Gonzaga, Fresh.)
11. Frank Ntilikina (6'4'', PG, France)
12. Jarrett Allen (6'10'', C, Texas, Fresh.)
13. Donovan Mitchell (6'4'', SG, Louisville, Soph.)
14. Justin Jackson (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Jr.)
15. TJ Leaf (6'10'', PF, UCLA, Fresh.)
16. Jawun Evans (6'1'', PG, Oklahoma State, Soph.)
17. Ike Anigbogu (6'10'', C, UCLA, Fresh.)
18. Justin Patton (7'0'', C, Creighton, Fresh.)
19. Ivan Rabb (6'10'', PF, California, Soph.)
20. Hamidou Diallo (6'6'', SG, High School/Kentucky)
21. DJ Wilson (6'10'', PF, Michigan, Soph.)
22. OG Anunoby (6'8'', SF, Indiana, Soph.)
23. Terrance Ferguson (6'7'', SG, Australia)
24. Luke Kennard (6'5'', SG, Duke, Soph.)
25. John Collins (6'10'', PF, Wake Forest, Soph.)
26. Frank Jackson (6'4'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
27. Jonathan Jeanne (7'1'', C, France)
28. Harry Giles (6'10'', PF, Duke, Fresh.)
29. Frank Mason (5'11'', PG, North Carolina, Sr.)
30. Rodions Kurucs (6'8'', SF, Latvia)
31. PJ Dozier (6'6'', SG, South Carolina, Soph.)
32. Isaiah Hartenstein (6'11'', PF, Germany)
33. Bam Adebayo (6'10'', C, Kentucky, Fresh.)
34. Jordan Bell (6'8'', PF, Oregon, Jr.)
35. Johnathan Motley (6'10'', PF, Baylor, Jr.)
36. Tyler Lydon (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Soph.)
37. Kyle Kuzma (6'9'', PF, Utah, Jr.)
38. Semi Ojeleye (6'7'', SF, SMU, Jr.)
39. Tony Bradley (6'10'', C, North Carolina, Fresh.)
40. Caleb Swanigan (6'9'', PF, Purdue, Soph.)
41. Josh Hart (6'6'', SG, Villanova, Sr.)
42. Jonah Bolden (6'10'', PF, Australia)
43. Omer Yurtseven (7'0'', C, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
44. Anzejs Pasecniks (7'2'', C, Latvia)
45. Thomas Bryant (7'0'', C, Indiana, Soph.)
46. Kostja Mushidi (6'5'', SG, Belgium)
47. Sindarius Thornwell (6'5'', SG, South Carolina, Sr.)
48. Derrick White (6'5'', SG, Colorado, Sr.)
49. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (6'8'', SF, Kansas, Jr.)
50. Mathias Lessort (6'9'', PF, Martinique)
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Post#175 » by DrCoach » Sat May 20, 2017 5:08 am

Swanigan in the 40's???
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Post#176 » by wolves_fan_82au » Sat May 20, 2017 2:05 pm

cammo have u seen much of isaac humpries ?? he was destroying teams a few years back in the fiba championships
u dont think hes even worth a late 2nd round ????
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Post#177 » by Cammo101 » Mon May 22, 2017 6:16 am

DrCoach wrote:Swanigan in the 40's???


Athletically he is going to struggle in the league IMO. He has a lot of skill, but will need to land on the right team for him to be more than a role player.
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Post#178 » by Cammo101 » Mon May 22, 2017 6:18 am

wolves_fan_82au wrote:cammo have u seen much of isaac humpries ?? he was destroying teams a few years back in the fiba championships
u dont think hes even worth a late 2nd round ????
jonah bolden shocks me i havent heard hes name in like 2 years


He may get drafted just on size alone, but he's fighting an uphill battle. He may have to make the league through the summer league or by playing overseas first.

Jonah Bolden is a name on the rise. He averaged 13 and 7 in the Adriatic League this season.
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Post#179 » by DrCoach » Mon May 22, 2017 3:06 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
DrCoach wrote:Swanigan in the 40's???


Athletically he is going to struggle in the league IMO. He has a lot of skill, but will need to land on the right team for him to be more than a role player.



You view him as a 4 or 5?
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Post#180 » by Cammo101 » Mon May 22, 2017 9:29 pm

DrCoach wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
DrCoach wrote:Swanigan in the 40's???


Athletically he is going to struggle in the league IMO. He has a lot of skill, but will need to land on the right team for him to be more than a role player.



You view him as a 4 or 5?


I think he's probably a 4, I don't think he's tall enough to be a 5.

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