Now that the Season is over...

[CobraCommander]

Now that the season is over, how do the Wizards get better? What can the Wizards realistically do to improve going into training camp next year?


my first thoughts... I know I will get shot for this, but when I look at the Celtics series, I really feel like Wall ran out of gas in game 7 and Beal had to shoulder the burden just like Beal ran out of gas/didnt have it and Wall had to carry the team in game 2 in Boston.

It made me wish we had one more elite scorer that could carry the load down the stretch or spread the scoring around. It makes me wish we had a guy like Melo, a veteran that can get his shot and can create match up problems offensively.

I dont know if it makes sense to try to get Melo but we are going to have to do something now that the Celtics have the number 1 pick (what were the nets thinking) so Danny A and the Celtics are the rich that just got richer. I dont think hoping that Otto gets better is going to make us more competitive going forward...i.e. I dont feel like we have jordan and pippen and its just a matter of them getting better.

I feel like we are officially on the NBA mediocre treadmill- Too good to blow up the nucleus but not good enough to win it all... its a good place to be as a causal fan but a horrible place to be if you are a elite player or a die-hard longing a champion!

WHAT CAN WE DO?!?! Thoughts?

[FAH1223]

Ernie is the GM

There's no hope

[dckingsfan]

Too early... still mourning

[NatP4]

1. Play young athletic players that can play defense (Sato,Oubre,Mac)

2. Tell Wall that what set him apart from other top point guards was his defense and passing ability, not his jumpshooting

3.give Scott Brooks a playbook with offensive sets that you are allowed to run in basketball

4. Become a defense first team again.

5. Sign a veteran leader that has been there, like ariza and Pierce before. Someone that can be the voice in the locker room and hold people accountable. This team has no poor leadership.

[Error Afflalo]

Ernie is the GM

There's no hope

this

[dangermouse]

"Now that the season is over"

I prefer to take a leaf from the Bernie Sanders fanclub playbook and believe there are ways we can still win.

[Da ThRONe]

I'd suggested a trade with New York for Melo during last season on a different site. I'd look to sign and trade Porter. He's not going to be worth what he's likely will command. Not sure if DC is on Anthony's list but his added offense makes the Wizards 2nd in the East to the Cavs.

[FAH1223]

I'd suggested a trade with New York for Melo during last season on a different site. I'd look to sign and trade Porter. He's not going to be worth what he's likely will command. Not sure if DC is on Anthony's list but his added offense makes the Wizards 2nd in the East to the Cavs.

Melo is 32. Porter is 23. Melo is lazy, doesn't play defense, and is a midrange chucker.

[Meliorus]

Melo sucks.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Edited. Fake smile is better than more about a GM....

[Da ThRONe]

I'd suggested a trade with New York for Melo during last season on a different site. I'd look to sign and trade Porter. He's not going to be worth what he's likely will command. Not sure if DC is on Anthony's list but his added offense makes the Wizards 2nd in the East to the Cavs.

Melo is 32. Porter is 23. Melo is lazy, doesn't play defense, and is a midrange chucker.

And Melo is under contract for another 2 years not 4. There were too many times Porter was a none factor to make max or near max dollars like he's likely to make. Yes Anthony has flaws, but even with those IMO this team is far more dangerous with Melo than with Porter unless he makes some significant jump in the off season. You can play Anthony at the 4 and bring Morris off the bench to help out that unit.

[NatP4]

Melo is not better than Otto Porter

[FAH1223]

I'd suggested a trade with New York for Melo during last season on a different site. I'd look to sign and trade Porter. He's not going to be worth what he's likely will command. Not sure if DC is on Anthony's list but his added offense makes the Wizards 2nd in the East to the Cavs.

Melo is 32. Porter is 23. Melo is lazy, doesn't play defense, and is a midrange chucker.

And Melo is under contract for another 2 years not 4. There were too many times Porter was a none factor to make max or near max dollars like he's likely to make. Yes Anthony has flaws, but even with those IMO this team is far more dangerous with Melo than with Porter unless he makes some significant jump in the off season. You can play Anthony at the 4 and bring Morris off the bench to help out that unit.

And who's playing the 3 besides Oubre?

Otto is NINE YEARS younger than Carmelo. I'm sorry, you're not getting a guy at his peak despite his ability to get his own shot and rebound.

[keynote]

Ideally, we'd send Sato to the Shaun Livingston Academy for Tall, Lanky PGs Who Don't Stretch the Floor, and he'd be a competent backup PG in time for next season. But, absent a huge developmental leap on Sato's part, I think we have to consider trading Oubre for a competent-to-elite backup combo guard.

I like Oubre's upside and defensive versatility, but we're locked into re-upping Porter, and we have the right of first refusal on Bojan. We have too many needs across the roster to afford keeping three SFs, or to afford letting Porter or Bojan walk without compensation. Trading Oubre for a backup combo guard to pair up with Sato would balance the roster. We'd then try to get by with a cheap backup PF.

[80sballboy]

I thought this was interesting.

http://fadeawayworld.com/2016/12/25/the-5-worst-ernie-grunfeld-moves/

http://wizofawes.com/2016/05/12/washington-wizards-ernie-grunfeld-nba-draft-failure-complete-history/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wizards-insider/wp/2017/04/14/wizards-ernie-grunfeld-remained-patient-and-now-hes-reaping-the-results/?utm_term=.99c9c33e743c

[Tricky_Kid]

Now that the season is over, how do the Wizards get better? What can the Wizards realistically do to improve going into training camp next year?


my first thoughts... I know I will get shot for this, but when I look at the Celtics series, I really feel like Wall ran out of gas in game 7 and Beal had to shoulder the burden just like Beal ran out of gas/didnt have it and Wall had to carry the team in game 2 in Boston.

It made me wish we had one more elite scorer that could carry the load down the stretch or spread the scoring around. It makes me wish we had a guy like Melo, a veteran that can get his shot and can create match up problems offensively.

I dont know if it makes sense to try to get Melo but we are going to have to do something now that the Celtics have the number 1 pick (what were the nets thinking) so Danny A and the Celtics are the rich that just got richer. I dont think hoping that Otto gets better is going to make us more competitive going forward...i.e. I dont feel like we have jordan and pippen and its just a matter of them getting better.

I feel like we are officially on the NBA mediocre treadmill- Too good to blow up the nucleus but not good enough to win it all... its a good place to be as a causal fan but a horrible place to be if you are a elite player or a die-hard longing a champion!

WHAT CAN WE DO?!?! Thoughts?

I'm all in for Melo. We need proven shooters. Phil wants to get rid of him, so the price won't be toi high. Melo would prefer other destination like LA but if they want to feel playoffs we are good enough team.
But non trade clause caused to Melo is the one who decides.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I thought this was interesting.

http://fadeawayworld.com/2016/12/25/the-5-worst-ernie-grunfeld-moves/

http://wizofawes.com/2016/05/12/washington-wizards-ernie-grunfeld-nba-draft-failure-complete-history/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wizards-insider/wp/2017/04/14/wizards-ernie-grunfeld-remained-patient-and-now-hes-reaping-the-results/?utm_term=.99c9c33e743c

About the 5 worst, thanks. Forgot about the Gilbert Arenas extension. Nate33 and others called me foolish much like they are critical of me for sounding off on Brooks' game seven. Much like they criticized me one month into Flip Saunders' first year of 26-56.

I knew Arenas was injured. Said he not only ruined Eddie Jordan's best coaching (making playoffs without Gil) only to return obviously damaged and awful in playoffs. Said the bad contract would haunt the Wizards for years before Gilbert was re-signed.

The other part of the article about Blatche, McGee, Young is that Blatche had been a backup for three seasons under EJ. Grunfeld stayed on (after throwing Gil under the bus). He fired Eddie 12 games into a season where Javale McGee was starting because Haywood was injured. After Tapscott coached a tank year, Flip not only could not control the three youth; he labeled them knuckleheads. (As opposed to keeping his thoughts in house and trading any at full value!) He shifted blame. He lost a heap of games not getting the same quality of play from previously decent players. Flip saw Blatche as the next KG!

I forgot about just how much EG screwed up!

Totally forgot about the honorable mention selling Jordan Clarkson...

TGW, in the Pecherov draft I wanted Millsap. Sent posts, emails, etc to Wizards scouts literally 18 months before the draft about the guy...

I said Millsap belongs not in round 2. He belongs in the lottery!...

In the Vesely draft, Faried and liked Leonard. Wanted anyone but Vesely and Singleton. Lots of others liked Klay Thompson.

In 2009, Curry.

EG is so bad it's not even funny. Haven't even read the second and third links...


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[80sballboy]

I try to look at things glass half full so let's keep one thing in mind. The worst possible offseason you can imagine in the additions of Burke, Mahinmi, J.Smith, Sato, Thornton, Nicholson and three rookie free agents with no draft picks and we still won 49 games after a 2-8 start with a brand new coaching staff. Have a mediocre offseason, start off better and (if Wall and Beal stay healthy), you win 52-53 games.

[NatP4]

Ideally, we'd send Sato to the Shaun Livingston Academy for Tall, Lanky PGs Who Don't Stretch the Floor, and he'd be a competent backup PG in time for next season. But, absent a huge developmental leap on Sato's part, I think we have to consider trading Oubre for a competent-to-elite backup combo guard.

I like Oubre's upside and defensive versatility, but we're locked into re-upping Porter, and we have the right of first refusal on Bojan. We have too many needs across the roster to afford keeping three SFs, or to afford letting Porter or Bojan walk without compensation. Trading Oubre for a backup combo guard to pair up with Sato would balance the roster. We'd then try to get by with a cheap backup PF.

trade oubre for a backup guard to play over sato more??? and sign a scrub PF to take minutes away from otto at the 4? We got blitzed on D in the playoffs because our bigs couldn't guard the perimeter and we refused to play small ball.

Satoransky and Mac fit together perfectly and can both already defend, the numbers back it up.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Tricky_Kid, one time there was a casting call for a local TV commercial. One of the casting directors was a Polish woman.

Wow! Awesome woman in every way....

I didn't get picked but I did ask her how to politely say, "Thank you for your time" in Polish. Whatever she said I just repeated it.

I wish I had a picture of her face, or a GIF of the next five seconds. It was awesome.

God is good all the time. Nothing more to the story. Just reminiscing...Now that the season is over.



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