A Trade For Giannis Antetokounmpo

[skones]

LeBron is the most valuable trade asset in the league despite his age. He means instant contention.

He's really not. Age and contractual situation go a long way towards that. These 1+1s kill his outgoing value.

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There are two truly untouchable players in the league, LeBron and Steph. Every team would literally trade away ALL of their top assets for the opportunity to sign either for even a one year deal.

To say that Giannis or Jokic or KAT are even in that conversation yet is beyond laughable

You're legitimately 100% wrong.

If Minnesota or Milwaukee are approached and they're offered Lebron, on a 1 year deal for KAT or Giannis, both of those teams say no. You don't mortgage your future by dealing away a future league cornerstone for one year of Lebron. It just doesn't happen. There's a reason Giannis and KAT were both higher on the trade board trade value list.

[azcatz11]

He's really not. Age and contractual situation go a long way towards that. These 1+1s kill his outgoing value.

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There are two truly untouchable players in the league, LeBron and Steph. Every team would literally trade away ALL of their top assets for the opportunity to sign either for even a one year deal.

To say that Giannis or Jokic or KAT are even in that conversation yet is beyond laughable

You're legitimately 100% wrong.

If Minnesota or Milwaukee are approached and they're offered Lebron, on a 1 year deal for KAT or Giannis, both of those teams say no. You don't mortgage your future by dealing away a future league cornerstone for one year of Lebron. It just doesn't happen. There's a reason Giannis and KAT were both higher on the trade board trade value list.

I'm not wrong. If you have a LEGIT opportunity to win a title with LeBron or Curry you take that. Even on a one year deal. I'm not even crediting the windfall of cash you'd bring in by bringing in either of those guys.

To me, LeBron and Curry are the two guys in the league who are head and shoulders above everyone else (talent + marketability.) I don't think anyone is even in the same universe as either.

[azcatz11]

A trade for Giannis sounds ridiculous. Like others have said, no chance this is happening for a long time at the very least.

No, there is a chance. The Bucks would trade Giannis in two seconds for LeBron, Curry and probably Durant. The inverse has no chance.

So they walk at the first chance?

You take that risk every time!!!!!! Worry about it when you have to resign either.

[skones]

There are two truly untouchable players in the league, LeBron and Steph. Every team would literally trade away ALL of their top assets for the opportunity to sign either for even a one year deal.

To say that Giannis or Jokic or KAT are even in that conversation yet is beyond laughable

You're legitimately 100% wrong.

If Minnesota or Milwaukee are approached and they're offered Lebron, on a 1 year deal for KAT or Giannis, both of those teams say no. You don't mortgage your future by dealing away a future league cornerstone for one year of Lebron. It just doesn't happen. There's a reason Giannis and KAT were both higher on the trade board trade value list.

I'm not wrong. If you have a LEGIT opportunity to win a title with LeBron or Curry you take that. Even on a one year deal. I'm not even crediting the windfall of cash you'd bring in by bringing in either of those guys.

To me, LeBron and Curry are the two guys in the league who are head and shoulders above everyone else (talent + marketability.) I don't think anyone is even in the same universe as either.

In what world does a team who traded away all of their top assets for Lebron or Curry have the supplementary talent to win a title?

If Milwaukee straight up swapped Giannis with Lebron, we STILL don't have a LEGIT opportunity to win a title in one year. That's the point. And then, he's looking at other options and you just dealt away a future top 5 player in the league for 1 year of Lebron who didn't get you a title. Your franchise legitimately waited 40+ years for a player like Giannis and you're starting from scratch again.

[buckboy]

There are two truly untouchable players in the league, LeBron and Steph. Every team would literally trade away ALL of their top assets for the opportunity to sign either for even a one year deal.

To say that Giannis or Jokic or KAT are even in that conversation yet is beyond laughable

You're legitimately 100% wrong.

If Minnesota or Milwaukee are approached and they're offered Lebron, on a 1 year deal for KAT or Giannis, both of those teams say no. You don't mortgage your future by dealing away a future league cornerstone for one year of Lebron. It just doesn't happen. There's a reason Giannis and KAT were both higher on the trade board trade value list.

I'm not wrong. If you have a LEGIT opportunity to win a title with LeBron or Curry you take that. Even on a one year deal. I'm not even crediting the windfall of cash you'd bring in by bringing in either of those guys.

To me, LeBron and Curry are the two guys in the league who are head and shoulders above everyone else (talent + marketability.) I don't think anyone is even in the same universe as either.

If the Bucks traded Giannis for Curry that'd end my 40 year relationship with them. That would be mind-numbingly stupid.

[azcatz11]

You're legitimately 100% wrong.

If Minnesota or Milwaukee are approached and they're offered Lebron, on a 1 year deal for KAT or Giannis, both of those teams say no. You don't mortgage your future by dealing away a future league cornerstone for one year of Lebron. It just doesn't happen. There's a reason Giannis and KAT were both higher on the trade board trade value list.

I'm not wrong. If you have a LEGIT opportunity to win a title with LeBron or Curry you take that. Even on a one year deal. I'm not even crediting the windfall of cash you'd bring in by bringing in either of those guys.

To me, LeBron and Curry are the two guys in the league who are head and shoulders above everyone else (talent + marketability.) I don't think anyone is even in the same universe as either.

In what world does a team who traded away all of their top assets for Lebron or Curry have the supplementary talent to win a title?

If Milwaukee straight up swapped Giannis with Lebron, we STILL don't have a LEGIT opportunity to win a title in one year. That's the point. And then, he's looking at other options and you just dealt away a future top 5 player in the league for 1 year of Lebron who didn't get you a title. Your franchise legitimately waited 40+ years for a player like Giannis and you're starting from scratch again.

How would you not have a legit opportunity to win if you traded LeBron for Giannis???? What?? Of course you would! Bucks would automatically shoot up to the #1 seed in the East lol.

[skones]

I'm not wrong. If you have a LEGIT opportunity to win a title with LeBron or Curry you take that. Even on a one year deal. I'm not even crediting the windfall of cash you'd bring in by bringing in either of those guys.

To me, LeBron and Curry are the two guys in the league who are head and shoulders above everyone else (talent + marketability.) I don't think anyone is even in the same universe as either.

In what world does a team who traded away all of their top assets for Lebron or Curry have the supplementary talent to win a title?

If Milwaukee straight up swapped Giannis with Lebron, we STILL don't have a LEGIT opportunity to win a title in one year. That's the point. And then, he's looking at other options and you just dealt away a future top 5 player in the league for 1 year of Lebron who didn't get you a title. Your franchise legitimately waited 40+ years for a player like Giannis and you're starting from scratch again.

How would you not have a legit opportunity to win if you traded LeBron for Giannis???? What?? Of course you would! Bucks would automatically shoot up to the #1 seed in the East lol.

If Lebron can barely win a title with Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, and a bevy of rotational pieces (and probably can't this year), he's not winning one with Malcolm Brogdon, Khris Middleton, Tony Snell, Greg Monroe, and Thon Maker.

[azcatz11]

In what world does a team who traded away all of their top assets for Lebron or Curry have the supplementary talent to win a title?

If Milwaukee straight up swapped Giannis with Lebron, we STILL don't have a LEGIT opportunity to win a title in one year. That's the point. And then, he's looking at other options and you just dealt away a future top 5 player in the league for 1 year of Lebron who didn't get you a title. Your franchise legitimately waited 40+ years for a player like Giannis and you're starting from scratch again.

How would you not have a legit opportunity to win if you traded LeBron for Giannis???? What?? Of course you would! Bucks would automatically shoot up to the #1 seed in the East lol.

If Lebron can barely win a title with Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, and a bevy of rotational pieces (and probably can't this year), he's not winning one with Malcolm Brogdon, Khris Middleton, Tony Snell, Greg Monroe, and Thon Maker.

Kevin Love was a career loser before LeBron. Kyrie was young so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. You really shouldn't assume that. I actually like the Bucks' core better than the Cavs'.

[skones]

How would you not have a legit opportunity to win if you traded LeBron for Giannis???? What?? Of course you would! Bucks would automatically shoot up to the #1 seed in the East lol.

If Lebron can barely win a title with Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, and a bevy of rotational pieces (and probably can't this year), he's not winning one with Malcolm Brogdon, Khris Middleton, Tony Snell, Greg Monroe, and Thon Maker.

Kevin Love was a career loser before LeBron. Kyrie was young so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. You really shouldn't assume that. I actually like the Bucks' core better than the Cavs'.

Everyone I just listed would be a career loser under the same situation as Love and nowhere near as productive.......

Nevermind when you explicitly stated "ALL top assets" in which case your roster is being filled with a bunch of scrubs, ie. the problem in Cleveland round 1......

[Prez]

When LeBron bails after 1 season because he has zero attachment to Milwaukee and wants complete control of where he plays and who he plays with, the Bucks would've just given up likely 10+ years of their best talent since Kareem for 1 season of contention. The Bucks trading a 22 year old rising superstar and possibly the future best player in the world, who happens to love the franchise, would be one of the dumbest moves ever.

[M-C-G]

Trading for one year of contention is such a Herb Kohl type move

[azcatz11]

If Lebron can barely win a title with Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, and a bevy of rotational pieces (and probably can't this year), he's not winning one with Malcolm Brogdon, Khris Middleton, Tony Snell, Greg Monroe, and Thon Maker.

Kevin Love was a career loser before LeBron. Kyrie was young so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. You really shouldn't assume that. I actually like the Bucks' core better than the Cavs'.

Everyone I just listed would be a career loser under the same situation as Love and nowhere near as productive.......

Nevermind when you explicitly stated "ALL top assets" in which case your roster is being filled with a bunch of scrubs, ie. the problem in Cleveland round 1......

You're trading for arguably the best player ever, just outside his prime. You make the trade and worry about the rest later. It's literally laughable that you are dismissing trading Giannis for James based off potential. I'll take the guaranteed Finals next year - you can take being at home and looking forward to the following year lol

[azcatz11]

When LeBron bails after 1 season because he has zero attachment to Milwaukee and wants complete control of where he plays and who he plays with, the Bucks would've just given up likely 10+ years of their best talent since Kareem for 1 season of contention. The Bucks trading a 22 year old rising superstar and possibly the future best player in the world, who happens to love the franchise, would be one of the dumbest moves ever.

LeBron wins a championship and loves Milwaukee and resigns for another year. He proceeds to win another championship the following year because Steph Curry breaks his knee and is out the entire 2019 season.

See how easy it is to predict

[skones]

Kevin Love was a career loser before LeBron. Kyrie was young so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. You really shouldn't assume that. I actually like the Bucks' core better than the Cavs'.

Everyone I just listed would be a career loser under the same situation as Love and nowhere near as productive.......

Nevermind when you explicitly stated "ALL top assets" in which case your roster is being filled with a bunch of scrubs, ie. the problem in Cleveland round 1......

You're trading for arguably the best player ever, just outside his prime. You make the trade and worry about the rest later. It's literally laughable that you are dismissing trading Giannis for James based off potential. I'll take the guaranteed Finals next year - you can take being at home and looking forward to the following year lol

It's not off potential, it's about the trajectory of your entire franchise. I think most would agree Giannis is likely a future top 5 player in this league and quite possibly the very best for some time. As I've stated over and over, finals is FAR from a guarantee let alone a legitimate title. You can't just "worry about the rest" later because when he leaves, which I also think would be highly likely, you're left with nill, which you're completely sweeping under the rug.

As long as you continue to ignore the supporting case argument, I'll just consider this case closed.

[M-C-G]

When LeBron bails after 1 season because he has zero attachment to Milwaukee and wants complete control of where he plays and who he plays with, the Bucks would've just given up likely 10+ years of their best talent since Kareem for 1 season of contention. The Bucks trading a 22 year old rising superstar and possibly the future best player in the world, who happens to love the franchise, would be one of the dumbest moves ever.

LeBron wins a championship and loves Milwaukee and resigns for another year. He proceeds to win another championship the following year because Steph Curry breaks his knee and is out the entire 2019 season.

See how easy it is to predict

Lebron loses a championship series, dislikes Milwaukee and resigns back in Cleveland with Giannis and rides out another 5 championships for Cleveland. Meanwhile in MKE, the fans prepare for another 30 years of mediocrity all in exchange for a single run at a championship.

I think my scenario is more likely.

[M-C-G]

You're trading for arguably the best player ever, just outside his prime. You make the trade and worry about the rest later. It's literally laughable that you are dismissing trading Giannis for James based off potential. I'll take the guaranteed Finals next year - you can take being at home and looking forward to the following year lol

Lebron will be about 33 to start next season and I would wager has by far played the most minutes of anyone in the history of basketball at that age. You are trading for a 15 year vet on a one year deal.

"Figure it out" is maybe the shortest sighted move I can possibly think of. Like I said, it is very Herb Kohl type move.

[Wiscfan92]

LeBron is the only person I'd trade for him

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Giannis is the type of player who should never be traded. These trade for 1 year of LeBron only exist in hypothetical space, so fortunately Milwaukee will never have to make that choice.

GMs who make short sighted moves don't last very long. Eventually you Billy King yourself and trade away your future with nothing to show for it and get shown the door and never offered another job. GMs are always playing the risk management game. From your armchair maybe you can champion taking risks but you're not playing with the best professional opportunity you're likely to ever have.

[nolang1]

In what world does a team who traded away all of their top assets for Lebron or Curry have the supplementary talent to win a title?

If Milwaukee straight up swapped Giannis with Lebron, we STILL don't have a LEGIT opportunity to win a title in one year. That's the point. And then, he's looking at other options and you just dealt away a future top 5 player in the league for 1 year of Lebron who didn't get you a title. Your franchise legitimately waited 40+ years for a player like Giannis and you're starting from scratch again.

How would you not have a legit opportunity to win if you traded LeBron for Giannis???? What?? Of course you would! Bucks would automatically shoot up to the #1 seed in the East lol.

If Lebron can barely win a title with Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, and a bevy of rotational pieces (and probably can't this year), he's not winning one with Malcolm Brogdon, Khris Middleton, Tony Snell, Greg Monroe, and Thon Maker.

How about you check what Kevin Love did in the Finals last year and get back to us. Rotational pieces are easy to come across if you're willing to part with future draft picks, and guys like Smith, Frye, and Korver were thought to be on their way out of the league until they got to play with LeBron.

[skones]

How would you not have a legit opportunity to win if you traded LeBron for Giannis???? What?? Of course you would! Bucks would automatically shoot up to the #1 seed in the East lol.

If Lebron can barely win a title with Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, and a bevy of rotational pieces (and probably can't this year), he's not winning one with Malcolm Brogdon, Khris Middleton, Tony Snell, Greg Monroe, and Thon Maker.

How about you check what Kevin Love did in the Finals last year and get back to us. Rotational pieces are easy to come across if you're willing to part with future draft picks, and guys like Smith, Frye, and Korver were thought to be on their way out of the league until they got to play with LeBron.

Yet he still produced for a team that won 57 games..........

You're not making a point. Lebron still needs help.