Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread

[kamaze]

For those asking about Billy, pretty sure he was with family. And I know I haven't posted a lot lately, but the old timers probably remember.

I'm 5'3 130 lbs asian dude.

Even if I wanted to, there's no way I try to take on King physically as I'm sure he'd kill me lol.

But yes, the thought crossed my mind as I saw him exiting the ride..."this **** ruined my team"

You should've hit him with a brick

[Paradise]

as for Diallo, Kobe at 18 was far advanced skills wise. Mind you I have not seen a game of his, but even DeShawn Stevenson at HS seems more refined (and had an nba body) at that age.

That athleticism is there, but that's only half the reason to take someone.

As I mentioned earlier, any other draft? Maybe.

But this draft is filled with 19-20 yr old with potential. In fact, this draft is all about semi unproductive pure potential picks.

i'm not sure the ceiling of most of the other guys in this draft isn't as high as Diallo...if we give them the same benefits of the doubt for improvement and development.

Let's say we take him. He's going to be coming to an organization that employs KD's former shooting coach. I'd imagine Kenny would personally work with him similar to his relationship with rookie Lin and of course, Jeremy is already here. Whitehead, Kilpatrick will likely mentor him and put him onto the game of playing under the NY spotlight and if that's not enough, sending him to Long Island won't hurt since Ronald Nored developed Farrell before he exploded with Dallas. Diallo is the kind of talent that will develop based off infrastructure and culture.

He's doomed in Chicago, NY for example. Milwaukee, OKC, Portland all would mold him better aside from us...


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[MrDollarBills]

I have to give you all credit. The board has handled this situation obscenely well.

I expected at least someone to melt down over this, but nope. Everyone is calm about it. Good

I think having Marks in charge, what he's done, and the way this team competed in games this season despite the record pretty much has me relaxed about the whole thing. The franchise is no longer in a toxic state management wise, cap wise, and we have some decent young players with upside, two picks to add to that as well. It's a long road ahead but at least there's a plan in place.

Well, I'm not gonna rage online but I'm still furious irl about the whole thing. We've had a long time to accept this day and here it is, but I'm still angry as hell. What makes it worse is that everything has gone as well as possible for the Celtics. They were the #1 seed in the year where we actually had their pick, and are in the ECF. Jaylen Brown will probably be a stud, and whoever they draft with #1 will probably be a stud. All while we look forward to another year where we don't have a draft pick at all!

Marks has given us some optimism but there's a long way to go back to respectability. If the #1 pick turns out to be a franchise caliber player, we won't be able to live it down for years. With all the mistakes in the past, Marks has little room for error (through no fault of his own), and even though he's very well paid, I feel sorry for him that he has to fix this horrific mess.

Yeah, I didn't say it didn't irk me. As soon as I saw how the top 3 shaped up, I knew the Nets pick netted #1. I was pissed, but moreso at how stupid Billy King was and the fact that he's sitting somewhere, fairly wealthy, while leaving a franchise in disarray like he did.

That being said, we can't worry about Boston or what happens. They may very well trade that pick for a win now run. It has no impact on us what so ever. we need to keep building.

[MrDollarBills]

Zion Williamson will be our next chance at a superstar talent in the draft. We get him and nobody cares to revisit this stuff in a few years.

I entrust Sean will make sure we land another high upside prospect similar to LeVert each season season until we get gain control of our first. I think getting Giles or Diallo would certainly shut up a lot of the noise we will hear between now and July.


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I need to see Zion versus kids that aren't half his size first before anything else. I'm not that impressed to be honest. Watching Lebron play in high school you saw legitimate skill and high basketball IQ along with an NBA ready frame. With Zion, I see an NBA frame that's just overpowering kids...a year of college should be able to tell the story somewhat.

The high school kid with the afro, his name escapes me...he looks way more skilled at this stage tbh.

[MrDollarBills]

as for Diallo, Kobe at 18 was far advanced skills wise. Mind you I have not seen a game of his, but even DeShawn Stevenson at HS seems more refined (and had an nba body) at that age.

That athleticism is there, but that's only half the reason to take someone.

As I mentioned earlier, any other draft? Maybe.

But this draft is filled with 19-20 yr old with potential. In fact, this draft is all about semi unproductive pure potential picks.

i'm not sure the ceiling of most of the other guys in this draft isn't as high as Diallo...if we give them the same benefits of the doubt for improvement and development.

Let's say we take him. He's going to be coming to an organization that employs KD's former shooting coach. I'd imagine Kenny would personally work with him similar to his relationship with rookie Lin and of course, Jeremy is already here. Whitehead, Kilpatrick will likely mentor him and put him onto the game of playing under the NY spotlight and if that's not enough, sending him to Long Island won't hurt since Ronald Nored developed Farrell before he exploded with Dallas. Diallo is the kind of talent that will develop based off infrastructure and culture.

He's doomed in Chicago, NY for example. Milwaukee, OKC, Portland all would mold him better aside from us...


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Diallo is the perfect wing project for this team to take on. We have a infrastructure that is geared towards making players better, and our own d league team that works in direct coordination with the NBA team.

I take him and one of the two centers we've been rumored to be looking at and call it a day in this draft.

[shakendfries]

I'd be most satisfied with Justin Patton, Rodions Kurucs, & Hamidou Diallo.

[CalamityX12]

Diallo doesn't have an outside shot though? or did i read that wrong?

[shakendfries]

Diallo doesn't have an outside shot though? or did i read that wrong?

He's among the most physically gifted in the class, but his jump shot is admittedly raw. He's a prospect who you'd expect to take full advantage of the new 2-way D-League player rules, to develop with all the staff Marks hired for the LI Nets (including KD's shooting coach).

Essentially, if the Nets drafted him he'd have 2-3 years to either surpass Goodwin at SG, or prove himself worthy to be in the rotation.

HAMIDOU DIALLO Shooting Guard NY Rens, Sr. (High School)

RINGER’S 1 REASON Athletic Upside
AGE18.9
HEIGHT6' 5''
WINGSPAN6' 11''
STANDING REACH8' 6''
An explosive guard who plays hard, but his success hinges on the development of his jump shot.

BEST-CASE SCENARIO: Smaller T.J. Warren, DeMar DeRozan, P.J. Hairston

PLUSES
High-flyer who charges the rim. He handles contact well and can finish with either hand.
Very fluid, quick first step, and good body control; if he tightens his handle, he’ll be able to get anywhere he wants.
High pick-and-roll scoring potential. Mixes change-of-pace moves with turbo drives into the lane.
Rangy, wide frame bodes well for his defensive upside, as does his aggression.
Long enough to block shots from the weakside. He can fall asleep off-ball at times, but makes up for it with hustle.

MINUSES
Rough jumper mechanics; shoots on the way down, doesn’t hold his follow through, and form is inconsistent.
Struggles from the free throw line and lacks touch on floaters, so his shooting issues could be a biomechanical issue, not form.
Sloppy ball handler; he’ll need to get better fundamentally to maximize his athleticism.
Unnatural lead guard; his decision-making is poor, he forces plays, and he’s an inaccurate passer.

Diallo and Goodwin have nearly identical scouting reports and they'd make the Nets freakishly athletic in transition

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[MrDollarBills]

Diallo would be the first test case for our d league system. I think its a good fit unless you guys see a wing that's within range that we can pick and can really become a factor for us now.

Draft the kid, let him develop while he gets paid, he can still work directly with the NBA team and he'll have plenty of time to work his way up to the main roster. Meanwhile, it gives us time to really see what we have with Archie Goodwin, who I am pretty high on, I just don't know what position he plays. he's one of those dudes you just put in the game and let him work tbh.

[CalamityX12]

Diallo needs work then.... definitely a DL stint IMO.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Can you guys imagine an alternate reality where were debating the merits of drafting Fultz v Ball?

Man this is the worst day in franchise history. Billy King's trade will go down as the worst in the history of sports.

How do you give up 3 picks with NO PROTECTION for 3 old ass players. All of whom are retired. And then ALSO give pick swaps.

Honestly, I wouldn't even be that mad if not for the pick swaps. Why was that a part of it? Are you insane?

[treiz]

Can you guys imagine an alternate reality where were debating the merits of drafting Fultz v Ball?

Man this is the worst day in franchise history. Billy King's trade will go down as the worst in the history of sports.

How do you give up 3 picks with NO PROTECTION for 3 old ass players. All of whom are retired. And then ALSO give pick swaps.

Honestly, I wouldn't even be that mad if not for the pick swaps. Why was that a part of it? Are you insane?

Well, that alternate reality would still need Billy King to be their GM at some point if they were to be this bad now. So, it's not all cakes and roses.

Also, don't forget we also traded them Gerald Wallace, whom we gave up a top-5 pick for ........

[MrDollarBills]

Can you guys imagine an alternate reality where were debating the merits of drafting Fultz v Ball?

Man this is the worst day in franchise history. Billy King's trade will go down as the worst in the history of sports.

How do you give up 3 picks with NO PROTECTION for 3 old ass players. All of whom are retired. And then ALSO give pick swaps.

Honestly, I wouldn't even be that mad if not for the pick swaps. Why was that a part of it? Are you insane?

I'll take the day Drazen died as worse.

That being said, I really can't waste energy being upset. the picks are gone.

The Portland trade, the Atlanta trade, the Boston trade all but guaruntee that Billy King should never work in basketball again. Reckless and moronic. I wish Speedy hit him with a brick right to the temple!!

[jbeachboy]

can we stop with the violence analogies toward billy king, i realize how much people dislike the trade and his moves but lets not resort to violence analogies? we are human beings and shouldnt say that.

[Claud]

I'd be more pissed if King and his crew were still in charge but I am happy with Markinson's work so far. Of course it hurts to see the Cs steal our valuable picks for years now but it's done and there's nothing we can do about it short of the league getting involved somehow.


We can still come away with 2-3 very good prospects which will help us going forward. Maybe a Brolo trade for a 2018 pick might be in the cards?

[Hello Brooklyn]

Can you guys imagine an alternate reality where were debating the merits of drafting Fultz v Ball?

Man this is the worst day in franchise history. Billy King's trade will go down as the worst in the history of sports.

How do you give up 3 picks with NO PROTECTION for 3 old ass players. All of whom are retired. And then ALSO give pick swaps.

Honestly, I wouldn't even be that mad if not for the pick swaps. Why was that a part of it? Are you insane?

I'll take the day Drazen died as worse.

That being said, I really can't waste energy being upset. the picks are gone.

The Portland trade, the Atlanta trade, the Boston trade all but guaruntee that Billy King should never work in basketball again. Reckless and moronic. I wish Speedy hit him with a brick right to the temple!!

I was 2 months old when that happened, but youre probably right.

Impossible for me not to be upset though. I don't think anyone in the history of sports has ruined a franchise the way King has.

For 3 years in a row I have to watch out team in the lottery with no chance of getting any of the best players. Its unheard of.

Were rebuilding without draft picks.

[NyCeEvO]

I have to give you all credit. The board has handled this situation obscenely well.

I expected at least someone to melt down over this, but nope. Everyone is calm about it. Good

I think having Marks in charge, what he's done, and the way this team competed in games this season despite the record pretty much has me relaxed about the whole thing. The franchise is no longer in a toxic state management wise, cap wise, and we have some decent young players with upside, two picks to add to that as well. It's a long road ahead but at least there's a plan in place.

Well, I'm not gonna rage online but I'm still furious irl about the whole thing. We've had a long time to accept this day and here it is, but I'm still angry as hell. What makes it worse is that everything has gone as well as possible for the Celtics. They were the #1 seed in the year where we actually had their pick, and are in the ECF. Jaylen Brown will probably be a stud, and whoever they draft with #1 will probably be a stud. All while we look forward to another year where we don't have a draft pick at all!

Marks has given us some optimism but there's a long way to go back to respectability. If the #1 pick turns out to be a franchise caliber player, we won't be able to live it down for years. With all the mistakes in the past, Marks has little room for error (through no fault of his own), and even though he's very well paid, I feel sorry for him that he has to fix this horrific mess.

Yeah, I didn't say it didn't irk me. As soon as I saw how the top 3 shaped up, I knew the Nets pick netted #1. I was pissed, but moreso at how stupid Billy King was and the fact that he's sitting somewhere, fairly wealthy, while leaving a franchise in disarray like he did.

That being said, we can't worry about Boston or what happens. They may very well trade that pick for a win now run. It has no impact on us what so ever. we need to keep building.

Idk how y'all could watch it. I completely forgot about it and was out when the show was held. I checked my phone around 9:10pm to see what happened and then went right back to doing what I was doing.

I might've had one last primal scream of anger if I'd watched it live.

[NyCeEvO]

Can you guys imagine an alternate reality where were debating the merits of drafting Fultz v Ball?

Man this is the worst day in franchise history. Billy King's trade will go down as the worst in the history of sports.

How do you give up 3 picks with NO PROTECTION for 3 old ass players. All of whom are retired. And then ALSO give pick swaps.

Honestly, I wouldn't even be that mad if not for the pick swaps. Why was that a part of it? Are you insane?

I'll take the day Drazen died as worse.

That being said, I really can't waste energy being upset. the picks are gone.

The Portland trade, the Atlanta trade, the Boston trade all but guaruntee that Billy King should never work in basketball again. Reckless and moronic. I wish Speedy hit him with a brick right to the temple!!

I think I heard a rumor that he was interviewing for the Magic GM position.

I'm not sure if the Magic brought him in for comedic relief after their season but kudos to them if they think a 3rd time is a charm.

[NyCeEvO]

I'd be more pissed if King and his crew were still in charge but I am happy with Markinson's work so far. Of course it hurts to see the Cs steal our valuable picks for years now but it's done and there's nothing we can do about it short of the league getting involved somehow.


We can still come away with 2-3 very good prospects which will help us going forward. Maybe a Brolo trade for a 2018 pick might be in the cards?

Yeah, I think the regime change has taken a way much of the sting. For me, it almost feels like that was an entirely different organization, and even though we're still impacted by what happened the new foundation of players, respect/likeability, and culture is a huge relief.

If King was still GM, I'd probably have to take a few years off following the Nets in order to keep my sanity.

[MrDollarBills]

If the Magic hire that mother **** er the fans need to burn the arena down. NO!!!!