De'Aaron Fox

[Justwar]

Just passing along what I heard. I think he'll be at least a 33 percent level 3pt shooter in the nba though

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[Negrodamus]

I have it that the 76ers gave fox a promise if he slips to there spot

Where did you hear that?

[Monix]

Aren't promises used to try to keep guys in the draft?

A team in the top 5 promising a high lottery prospect doesn't make sense

[Pinkyring]

Aren't promises used to try to keep guys in the draft?

A team in the top 5 promising a high lottery prospect doesn't make sense

No promises are used to shut guys down, if u tell a guy u wont slip past our pick thats not considered a draft promise thats just letting a guy know his floor

[LordCovington33]

Interesting article. Seems the sixers are targetting him, and he looks forward to the prospect of playing with Embiid and Simmons. He is friends with Simmons.
http://www.nba.com/sixers/beat-fox-aims-stand-out-among-point-guards

[KayDee35]

I like his speed, athleticism, and ability to pull up.

Scoring:
He's a good finisher who plays lankier than he really is. He's got good speed that allows him to get by most defenders. His dribble is solid and combined with his speed and change of pace makes him a tough cover. This also gives him plenty of room to shoot pull-up jumpers. His pull-up looks pretty good but hits the front rim too often suggesting a flat shot. If he hopes to be more consistent on medium 2s and the 3-ball, he might need to increase his arc or become much more precise. I don't see glaring flaws but his jumper needs a slight tweak. And if he played for a smaller school where he was a featured scorer, I think he would have looked more capable in this area. Most of his jumpers were uncontested or lightly contested in college due to the threat of his speed, yet he hit at a low percentage. A higher arc or hitting the (bottom) back of the rim) consistently are possible solutions. But there will need to be some changes. Perhaps learning to square up better and shoot straight up might take care of it. Some of his misses were so bad that one has to consider more fundamental body work rather than simply arm and wrist form being the problem.

Defense:
He's a quick defender who gets too aggressive at times. He can move well laterally but often positions himself too close to the offensive player thereby giving them an easy drive. He sometimes recovers which speaks to his mobility but he also often lets the player by or commits a foul. His slim frame allows him to move well for his size. He was quite effective in full-court presses making the ball-handler rush or drive into a crowd. Some defensive fundamentals are lacking such as his initial early positioning. If his lateral quickness remains as he packs on muscle he could be a top 5-10 defender at the PG position. That may not matter much in this era of ball movement and constant screening. His lack of strength could be a big negative because he won't be able to switch effectively to guarding other positions.

Passing:
His vision is above average for a college PG. It's not clear how much of that is due to being slightly larger than most college PGs. He has shown a consistent ability to pass on drives, PnRs, and on off-ball screens for good shooters (like Monk). He's proficient with lobs and finding player on cuts. But he hasn't shown the talent to make exceptional passes. As a starter, he projects to be a 7-8apg type PG. He's a willing passer but he doesn't find angles as well as the gifted PGs do.

Ball-Handling:
His ability to change speeds is key to leaving many a defender in the dust. He can also change direction quicker than most defender can react giving him a lot of room to drive or pull up. His in-and-out dribble is excellent and throws defenders who are expecting his quick crossover. His dribble, however, seems a little higher than needed and also limits his ability to adjust as the defense moves. With his athleticism, I'd expect more spins but the height of the ball combined with pushing it ahead don't give him much of a chance to do so. Overall, his ball-handling is solid but the weaknesses are masked by his speed. As he faces more capable defenders, I'd expect to see more problems show up.

All things considered, Fox is the kind of prospect that leaves one breathless with one of his plays or even an entire game but can rapidly cool your pulse when he's defended correctly. The raw tools are there that scream greatness in spurts but due to his inconsistency and limited fundamentals they also yell serviceable starter or bench guy.

Fox will need a lot of nurturing at the next level to achieve the potential that many see in him. Without it, he will probably be a mediocre starter. Not that 'mediocre' is a bad word when speaking of the world class athletes at the NBA level but Fox shows flashes of being elite only to come back down a few plays later.

If he was at a different college or had more time to refine his game, he'd likely be a top-3 pick. In this draft he's a surefire top 10 and will probably be a top 6 pick.

[Justwar]

If Fox is mediocre then ball is a bench guy. When challenged in big games he killed the comp.

[Teen Girl Squad]

My biggest concern is his weight, not just because he's rail thin but because he hasn't gained any weight in a while. Is it that he can't or that he doesn't have the dedication to the gym that will help put size on him? As a top team, I would hope to see some progress before the draft because if he doesn't get any bigger, I can't see him having top 5 impact. Other than his weight and shooting, I love him as a prospect.

[reanimator]

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[Jadoogar]

Think this is relevant to Fox:

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How many times have teams picked players because they believed they could team them how to shoot and it not work out?
- Elfrid Payton
- Aaron Gordon
- Ricky Rubio
- Emmanual Mudiay
- Stanley Johnson
- MKG
- Dante Exum
- Kris Dunn

[reanimator]

Think this is relevant to Fox:

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How many times have teams picked players because they believed they could team them how to shoot and it not work out?
- Elfrid Payton
- Aaron Gordon
- Ricky Rubio
- Emmanual Mudiay
- Stanley Johnson
- MKG
- Dante Exum
- Kris Dunn

Yeah sure, but if you are pro-Fox you are going to seek data that encourages you on him strengthening his weaknesses.

[SelfishPlayer]

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How many times have teams picked players because they believed they could team them how to shoot and it not work out?
- Elfrid Payton
- Aaron Gordon
- Ricky Rubio
- Emmanual Mudiay
- Stanley Johnson
- MKG
- Dante Exum
- Kris Dunn

None of those players are as talented as Fox. For the record I believe that Fox is the most talented player in this draft. Fox shot over 47% from 3 over his last 10 games of the season, this was after he started working with the coaching staff on his shot.

[SBM]

He is a big time prospect. I see Wall and Westbrook. I know people will say thats a bit much but that's what I see.

[Justwar]

Difference in Fox vs most of the poor shooters is his form isn't a wreck. It's good. Bball breakdown has stuff on his shot showing why people shouldn't worry. That's why over the last ten games he shot 42 percent from 3.

[doordoor123]

Think this is relevant to Fox:

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How many times have teams picked players because they believed they could team them how to shoot and it not work out?
- Elfrid Payton
- Aaron Gordon
- Ricky Rubio
- Emmanual Mudiay
- Stanley Johnson
- MKG
- Dante Exum
- Kris Dunn

The majority of these guys have become better shooters and they're still developing/too young to tell. A lot of these guys won't be able to shoot till their prime. Still not giving up on MKG too. He's still only 24 and has been working on his shot. Even Rubio has gotten better. Rondo even developed a jumper. Talk to me when they're 27 years old.

[mattao313]

Would Jeff Teague be a good comp? Both lighting fast questionable jumper, Jeff has a high steal rate.

[MrBaynes]

I really like him as a prospect and wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be an elite PG. That being said, I don't really have a good comparison to anyone else. Schroeder seems like as good a comparison as any but it still does not seem like a perfect comparison. I know Philly seems to be interested, but I think I would rather have Jackson unless they are ready already to give up on Simmons playing the point (which I don't think they are). If they see Simmons as their future 3, then Fox would be a good fit though.

[GimmeDat]

I feel like he's somewhere between Schroder and Wall. Obviously he'll need to improve that jumper to get where they are now.

Seems like Philly are keen to take him at 3, which means Jackson to Phoenix.

[LALifer49]

Is this guy like a less athletic John Wall with worse shooting and significantly worse playmaking? If so, what puts him over a guy like Dennis Smith, and is he really worth a top 3 pick? Admittedly haven't watched too many full games of his (1).

[jonjames]

Is this guy like a less athletic John Wall with worse shooting and significantly worse playmaking? If so, what puts him over a guy like Dennis Smith, and is he really worth a top 3 pick? Admittedly haven't watched too many full games of his (1).

Wall is not more athletic than Fox. Fox is half notch below westbrook in terms of fast twitch. Fox is around the same ball park as shooter.wall is far from a reliable shooter himself. Significantly worse playmaking? Not at all..not as good as wall tho.