Trade Post-Mortem 2017: Eight is Enough

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #1821 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Thu May 18, 2017 5:03 pm

Horrible post

Dave_From_NB · Post #1822 » by **Dave_From_NB** » Thu May 18, 2017 5:08 pm

Maybe it is time for a stickied 2017-2018 Trade Thread - the board seems to be getting polluted with trade proposals.

Fencer reregistered · Post #1823 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Thu May 18, 2017 7:15 pm

CelticsLV wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:Da'Aron Fox says Malik Monk's NBA comparable is Avery Bradley.

http://nypost.com/2017/05/16/knicks-fall-in-nba-draft-lottery-letdown/

I know he's in a very different contract situation from a rookie -- but Monk's likely status as a mid-lottery pick still sheds some light on Avery's value.

Are you trying to imply Bradley is worth mid lotto pick? 10-14 pick at best.

More like #4-7.

#8 picks have been traded for Shane Battier and (I think) Gerald Wallace. And when Avery was a lesser player than he is now he took the starting job from a guy who had recently been traded for the #5.

That said, his value could be downgraded because his contract runs out in a year.

Gomes3PC · Post #1824 » by **Gomes3PC** » Thu May 18, 2017 7:20 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:Da'Aron Fox says Malik Monk's NBA comparable is Avery Bradley.

http://nypost.com/2017/05/16/knicks-fall-in-nba-draft-lottery-letdown/

I know he's in a very different contract situation from a rookie -- but Monk's likely status as a mid-lottery pick still sheds some light on Avery's value.

George Hill is going to be a good barometer for what to expect when Avery hits FA.

TheBounceIsReal · Post #1825 » by **TheBounceIsReal** » Thu May 18, 2017 7:29 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Horrible post

No it isn't. It's a specific idea that didn't have it's own topic, with an outline of the mechanics of the trade, why it benefits Boston, why it benefits the Knicks, and a request for others to weigh in. What's the point of a message board if not to discuss ideas and thoughts?

Now if you think it's a bad trade idea, fair enough. But at least be constructive about it and respond with your reasoning, or be like Dave_From_NB and suggest something worthwhile.

SparringPartner · Post #1826 » by **SparringPartner** » Thu May 18, 2017 7:33 pm

IT (Can NOT pay this guy $25M, not a two way player, would rather pay AB)
Jae (great contact, solid player, ultimate front runner)

To SAC for

#5 pick

Kings opening new arena and IT will sell a ton of seats

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bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #1827 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:05 pm

Porzingis certainly has to be in the equation, but the value of a Number One Pick is so great that there's no need
to include Crowder too - that lessens his nice value - if Crowder goes along, they should return Willy in the deal.

Slax · Post #1828 » by **Slax** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:10 pm

SparringPartner wrote:

IT (Can NOT pay this guy $25M, not a two way player, would rather pay AB)
Jae (great contact, solid player, ultimate front runner)

To SAC for

#5 pick

Kings opening new arena and IT will sell a ton of seats

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You can't sign Hayward in that scenario. He won't leave the Jazz just because he's so psyched about how much potential he sees in the two rookies in our starting lineup.

DaddyCool19 · Post #1829 » by **DaddyCool19** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:10 pm

I don't want to start a thread therefore I'm gonna ask it here. What is the most you would offer for PG in a trade, if he agrees to sign an extension with you guys.

I think it would include the BRK 2018 pick (I could see Brooklyn improving slightly, which should make the pick lower... like 3-7ish maybe?) with some minor assets? Or is that too much/not enough?

Post #1830 » by **ParticleMan** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:12 pm

No way. porzingis is overrated here. he's a freak with what he can do but he has holes in his game, is soft, and disappears too much.

i mean if you can get him without the #1 this year or next, then ok. otherwise no thanks.

Fencer reregistered · Post #1831 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:13 pm

TheBounceIsReal wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Horrible post

No it isn't. It's a specific idea that didn't have it's own topic, with an outline of the mechanics of the trade, why it benefits Boston, why it benefits the Knicks, and a request for others to weigh in. What's the point of a message board if not to discuss ideas and thoughts?

Now if you think it's a bad trade idea, fair enough. But at least be constructive about it and respond with your reasoning, or be like Dave_From_NB and suggest something worthwhile.

You missed the sarcasm.

There is a stickied trade thread. You should have posted this idea in there, or better yet added your comments to the previous discussion of exactly this idea.

And mods should merge this thread into that one.

Post #1832 » by **Froob** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:14 pm

Waiting for somebody to suggest the #1 pick for Dragan Bender.

Slax · Post #1833 » by **Slax** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:16 pm

DaddyCool19 wrote:I don't want to start a thread therefore I'm gonna ask it here. What is the most you would offer for PG in a trade, if he agrees to sign an extension with you guys.

I think it would include the BRK 2018 pick with some minor assets? Or is that too much/not enough?

I would do that without a second thought, especially if Griffin or Hayward agrees to sign with us. It would be an amazing collection of talent to have on one team, to the point where it's practically unfair. IT/Bradley/Hayward/George/Horford or IT/Hayward/George/Griffin/Horford would be about as competitive as we could hope to get against the Cavs and Warriors next year, and if we got to keep guys like Fultz, Brown, and Zizic then we would have both a young set of all stars and an even younger set of high value young players waiting in the wings to supplement and replace them in a few years.

PierceFan4ever · Post #1834 » by **PierceFan4ever** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:20 pm

Trade Fultz for anyone that plays in the NBA.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #1835 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:22 pm

If NY had a higher pick and we had 2nd I might do KP + 5 or 6 for 2 and Rozier. But at 8 and us with a shot at Fultz I wouldn't go for it.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1836 » by **GoCeltics123** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:27 pm

FFS guys. Kristaps was in his second year last year and plays on a terrible team. I would do it but would think about it

Plus, dude, Kristaps/Horford frontcourt? 8-)

AgentGreen · Post #1837 » by **AgentGreen** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:27 pm

With O'Quinn in the deal i might do it. But only the pick and some non starters like Zeller as a package.. The value of the #1 pick is quite high no need to ad in one of our starters in that deal.

Sacramento has two picks in this draft. the 5th and the 10th. Unfortunately they dont have a Porzingis type of player or else they wouldve been the ideal trade candidate.

Sign Hayward in the offseason.

IT, Bradley, Hayward, Porzingis, Horford

Some good defense and floor spacing right there. All can shoot the 3 and Zinger + O'Quinn will solve our rebounding issues.

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #1838 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:29 pm

TheBounceIsReal wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Horrible post

No it isn't. It's a specific idea that didn't have it's own topic, with an outline of the mechanics of the trade, why it benefits Boston, why it benefits the Knicks, and a request for others to weigh in. What's the point of a message board if not to discuss ideas and thoughts?

Now if you think it's a bad trade idea, fair enough. But at least be constructive about it and respond with your reasoning, or be like Dave_From_NB and suggest something worthwhile.

I suggest taking the pick because there is only one player you trade this pick for, and hes not from europe.

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #1839 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:30 pm

Oh, and sorry, this is still a horrible post.

Banks2Pierce · Post #1840 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Thu May 18, 2017 8:30 pm

Slax wrote:
DaddyCool19 wrote:I don't want to start a thread therefore I'm gonna ask it here. What is the most you would offer for PG in a trade, if he agrees to sign an extension with you guys.

I think it would include the BRK 2018 pick with some minor assets? Or is that too much/not enough?

I would do that without a second thought, especially if Griffin or Hayward agrees to sign with us.

I am trying to work this in my spreadsheets and it's really hard. Keep coming back to Philly to try to get Covington and Richaun since they are some of the best $1m-ish performing players in the league.