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2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion

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Who do the Lakers draft on June 22nd with the 2nd overall pick?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:11 pm

Lonzo Ball
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Josh Jackson
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#241 » by TyCobb » Fri May 19, 2017 3:49 am

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#242 » by Jkam31 » Fri May 19, 2017 3:56 am

ozymandias818 wrote:
jerkslo wrote:I'm saying it again, package the #2 and Mozgov to Sac for the #5 and WCS, select Fox at 5.

Well, you can stop saying it because it's never going to happen. The Kings already drafted WCS way too high, they obviously overvalue him and that's already a terrible deal for them.


WCS isn't overvalued he was really good after the break I won't talk about that silly offer.


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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#243 » by Spens1 » Fri May 19, 2017 3:59 am

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Ainge is doing it. the madman

Come on Lakers draft Fultz, let me speak into existence and have Lavar go nuts on draftnight when we go with Fultz over Ball :lol:
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#244 » by ozymandias818 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:07 am

Spens1 wrote:
dockingsched wrote:
Read on Twitter


Ainge is doing it. the madman

Come on Lakers draft Fultz, let me speak into existence and have Lavar go nuts on draftnight when we go with Fultz over Ball :lol:

I really doubt the Celtics are dumb enough to pass on Fultz, but they did go against the grain in picking Jaylen Brown last year. I think they're one of the more likely teams to surprise everyone and do it, and I think Jackson has a pretty good chance of being the best player in this draft.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#245 » by Spens1 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:08 am

ozymandias818 wrote:
Spens1 wrote:
dockingsched wrote:
Read on Twitter


Ainge is doing it. the madman

Come on Lakers draft Fultz, let me speak into existence and have Lavar go nuts on draftnight when we go with Fultz over Ball :lol:

I really doubt the Celtics are dumb enough to pass on Fultz, but they did go against the grain in picking Jaylen Brown last year. I think they're one of the more likely teams to surprise everyone and do it, and I think Jackson has a pretty good chance of being the best player in this draft.


oh yeah certainly if he develops he would be, even now i'd say he ready now, even moreso than Lonzo and Fultz possibly.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#246 » by TyCobb » Fri May 19, 2017 4:10 am

No way Jackson goes #1 drafted based on his competitiveness level. You get those guys at the end of the first round--like Jordan Bell. Jackson shot 56% from the FT line and had a near 1:1 AST:TO. That's not the highest upside player in the draft, especially when he is already a year older than other prospects. C'mon folks... don't fall for the smoke.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#247 » by Kilroy » Fri May 19, 2017 4:17 am

TyCobb wrote:No way Jackson goes #1 drafted based on his competitiveness level. You get those guys at the end of the first round--like Jordan Bell. Jackson shot 56% from the FT line and had a near 1:1 AST:TO. That's not the highest upside player in the draft, especially when he is already a year older than other prospects. C'mon folks... don't fall for the smoke.


That said, it's a move right in Ainge's wheel house... I can definitely see him freaking out under the pressure of picking first and making a stupid move like this.

Which would kind of suck for us because then we have to ask the legit question... Fultz or Ball for real.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#248 » by ozymandias818 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:18 am

TyCobb wrote:No way Jackson goes #1 drafted based on his competitiveness level. You get those guys at the end of the first round--like Jordan Bell. Jackson shot 56% from the FT line and had a near 1:1 AST:TO. That's not the highest upside player in the draft, especially when he is already a year older than other prospects. C'mon folks... don't fall for the smoke.

I don't know why you're trying to explain Jackson's weaknesses; they don't matter here.

The Celtics are a unique drafting team. It's probably smoke, just like 95% of what you hear leading up to any draft in any year, but how crazy would it be for the best prospect coming into the year, coming off of a very nice season, to go first overall? And especially to a team that needs his skillset a whole lot more than they need another player at their strongest position, that is in the Conference Finals and is ready to compete now?

We all thought the C's were idiots for taking Jaylen Brown (they were), but they showed they're not afraid to think outside the box, and I think Jackson makes a whole lot more sense than Brown did last year. I don't expect it, but I wouldn't write it off.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#249 » by Michael Lucky » Fri May 19, 2017 4:21 am

After seeing Ainge pick Smart and Brown, I wouldn't be completely shocked if he was high on Jackson.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#250 » by Michael Lucky » Fri May 19, 2017 4:23 am

Kilroy wrote:
TyCobb wrote:No way Jackson goes #1 drafted based on his competitiveness level. You get those guys at the end of the first round--like Jordan Bell. Jackson shot 56% from the FT line and had a near 1:1 AST:TO. That's not the highest upside player in the draft, especially when he is already a year older than other prospects. C'mon folks... don't fall for the smoke.


That said, it's a move right in Ainge's wheel house... I can definitely see him freaking out under the pressure of picking first and making a stupid move like this.

Which would kind of suck for us because then we have to ask the legit question... Fultz or Ball for real.

Lavar can move to Philly at that point. :lol:
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#251 » by TyCobb » Fri May 19, 2017 4:24 am

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TyCobb wrote:No way Jackson goes #1 drafted based on his competitiveness level. You get those guys at the end of the first round--like Jordan Bell. Jackson shot 56% from the FT line and had a near 1:1 AST:TO. That's not the highest upside player in the draft, especially when he is already a year older than other prospects. C'mon folks... don't fall for the smoke.

I don't know why you're trying to explain Jackson's weaknesses; they don't matter here.

The Celtics are a unique drafting team. It's probably smoke, just like 95% of what you hear leading up to any draft in any year, but how crazy would it be for the best prospect coming into the year, coming off of a very nice season, to go first overall? And especially to a team that needs his skillset a whole lot more than they need another player at their strongest position, that is in the Conference Finals and is ready to compete now?

We all thought the C's were idiots for taking Jaylen Brown (they were), but they showed they're not afraid to think outside the box, and I think Jackson makes a whole lot more sense than Brown did last year. I don't expect it, but I wouldn't write it off.


Who the hell else were the Celtics supposed to draft? Do you remember that draft class? There wasn't anybody more overrated than Kris Dunn and they did not buy into that hype. Brown had one of the best packages of skill, athleticism, physicality, and head on his shoulders. A shock to you because you don't do much research about prospects.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#253 » by Michael Lucky » Fri May 19, 2017 4:26 am

TyCobb wrote:
ozymandias818 wrote:
TyCobb wrote:No way Jackson goes #1 drafted based on his competitiveness level. You get those guys at the end of the first round--like Jordan Bell. Jackson shot 56% from the FT line and had a near 1:1 AST:TO. That's not the highest upside player in the draft, especially when he is already a year older than other prospects. C'mon folks... don't fall for the smoke.

I don't know why you're trying to explain Jackson's weaknesses; they don't matter here.

The Celtics are a unique drafting team. It's probably smoke, just like 95% of what you hear leading up to any draft in any year, but how crazy would it be for the best prospect coming into the year, coming off of a very nice season, to go first overall? And especially to a team that needs his skillset a whole lot more than they need another player at their strongest position, that is in the Conference Finals and is ready to compete now?

We all thought the C's were idiots for taking Jaylen Brown (they were), but they showed they're not afraid to think outside the box, and I think Jackson makes a whole lot more sense than Brown did last year. I don't expect it, but I wouldn't write it off.


Who the hell else were the Celtics supposed to draft? Do you remember that draft class? There wasn't anybody more overrated than Kris Dunn and they did not buy into that hype. Brown had one of the best packages of skill, athleticism, physicality, and head on his shoulders. A shock to you because you don't do much research about prospects.

well brown was not thought to be likely to go 3rd while not impossible. It would be like DSJ this year going ahead of Fox. Also the Smart pick over Randle was really questionable at the time. I still remember Simmons reaction to it.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#254 » by Michael Lucky » Fri May 19, 2017 4:28 am

TyCobb wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19412898/isaiah-thomas-boston-celtics-talked-possible-no-1-draft-pick-markelle-fultz?sf79961364=1

They did go to the same school. Quite ironic though. Isaiah was the last pick, and Fultz will likely be the first pick in this case.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#255 » by TyCobb » Fri May 19, 2017 4:39 am

Michael Lucky wrote:well brown was not thought to be likely to go 3rd while not impossible. It would be like DSJ this year going ahead of Fox. Also the Smart pick over Randle was really questionable at the time. I still remember Simmons reaction to it.


For the record I have DSJ over Fox too. But I wouldn't want either running my offense.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#256 » by Kilroy » Fri May 19, 2017 4:46 am

TyCobb wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19412898/isaiah-thomas-boston-celtics-talked-possible-no-1-draft-pick-markelle-fultz?sf79961364=1


Calling BS... Didn't believe a word he was saying.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#257 » by TyCobb » Fri May 19, 2017 4:48 am

Kilroy wrote:
TyCobb wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19412898/isaiah-thomas-boston-celtics-talked-possible-no-1-draft-pick-markelle-fultz?sf79961364=1


Calling BS... Didn't believe a word he was saying.


You don't think he has a relationship with Fultz? Cmon man...
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#258 » by ozymandias818 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:54 am

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ozymandias818 wrote:
TyCobb wrote:No way Jackson goes #1 drafted based on his competitiveness level. You get those guys at the end of the first round--like Jordan Bell. Jackson shot 56% from the FT line and had a near 1:1 AST:TO. That's not the highest upside player in the draft, especially when he is already a year older than other prospects. C'mon folks... don't fall for the smoke.

I don't know why you're trying to explain Jackson's weaknesses; they don't matter here.

The Celtics are a unique drafting team. It's probably smoke, just like 95% of what you hear leading up to any draft in any year, but how crazy would it be for the best prospect coming into the year, coming off of a very nice season, to go first overall? And especially to a team that needs his skillset a whole lot more than they need another player at their strongest position, that is in the Conference Finals and is ready to compete now?

We all thought the C's were idiots for taking Jaylen Brown (they were), but they showed they're not afraid to think outside the box, and I think Jackson makes a whole lot more sense than Brown did last year. I don't expect it, but I wouldn't write it off.


Who the hell else were the Celtics supposed to draft? Do you remember that draft class? There wasn't anybody more overrated than Kris Dunn and they did not buy into that hype. Brown had one of the best packages of skill, athleticism, physicality, and head on his shoulders. A shock to you because you don't do much research about prospects.

Wow, did you flunk out of Cal or something? Why are you so defensive?

Rather have Dunn. And Bender. And Chriss. And Murray. I had him a little lower than most, but there's a reason everyone was surprised they took Brown and your little rant isn't convincing anybody otherwise.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#259 » by TyCobb » Fri May 19, 2017 4:56 am

:laugh: Ok guy. Thanks for the heads up on skipping over your posts from now on.

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#260 » by ozymandias818 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:59 am

TyCobb wrote::laugh: Ok guy. Thanks for the heads up on skipping over your posts from now on.

:wave:

Aw, I'm truly pained that a moderator that can't contain himself from throwing out unprovoked personal attacks isn't going to attempt to intelligently respond to my posts on an internet message board anymore.

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