Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread

[Rockice_24]

...& here's one for Diallo

-High-flyer who charges the rim. He handles contact well and can finish with either hand.
-Very fluid, quick first step, and good body control; if he tightens his handle, he’ll be able to get anywhere he wants.
-High pick-and-roll scoring potential. Mixes change-of-pace moves with turbo drives into the lane.
-Rangy, wide frame bodes well for his defensive upside, as does his aggression.
-Long enough to block shots from the weakside. He can fall asleep off-ball at times, but makes up for it with hustle.

This also sounds similarly skilled to Giannis & more skilled than you're giving credit

At the end of the day, can the Nets really afford to play it safe without a shot at lottery picks for 2 years? Isn't going after the risk/reward guys the point of having two late 1st round picks?



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Not quite. They note his need to tighten his handle unlike Giannis. Ability to finish at the rim has only to do with his athletic ability mainly as does quick not skill based so much. Defensive upside due to frame length and again athleticism. Everything is based on athletic ability. That was nothing like Giannis who had great handle and feel for the game.

[TheNetsFan]

No. He wasn't. This is a blatantly false assertion. Find me one old scouting report that says Giannis was highly skilled at anything
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It's popular to say that a prospect--particularly an obscure one-- “plays every position on the floor,” but in the game we watched in Greece, that was indeed the case. The competition level, as you can see in the video scouting report above, is indeed nothing to write home about, but it's difficult not to be taken aback by the incredibly versatile skill-set Adetokunbo brings to the table at 6-9. The tallest player on his team, Adetokunbo started the game off at the power forward position, but played on the perimeter almost exclusively. Similar to the way Kyle Anderson is used at UCLA, he initiates a lot of his team's offense in the half-court and regularly rebounds the ball and takes it coast to coast, showing fantastic body control. He's an extremely smooth ball-handler and a surprisingly adept passer, looking extremely unselfish and very focused on getting his teammates involved. He's capable of driving left or right and reads defenses far better than you'd expect considering his age and size, as he shows great sparks of creativity and smarts that make it easy to envision him developing into a point forward type as his career progresses. Adetokunbo's long strides and great length allow him to finish his moves in a variety of ways around the basket. He's largely right-hand dependent, though, and will need to continue to improve his strength and explosiveness to finish over the top of better defenses than he's facing at the moment. Adetokunbo's perimeter shooting ability is not as refined as his passing and ball-handling skills. While his shooting mechanics are relatively consistent, and he's capable of making shots with both his feet set and off the dribble, he sports a low release point and is not a knock down shooter when left open. He's making 34% of his 3-pointers on the season in A2 thus far and 70% of his free throw attempts, so there's definitely something to build off

Defensively is where Adetokunbo might have the best potential considering the superior size and length he brings to the table at his position—likely small forward. He's not very consistent in this area yet, as he lacks significant experience, is not physical enough keeping a body on opponents and fighting through screens, and plays too upright on the perimeter. The instincts he displays here are very intriguing though, as he shows good anticipation on the defensive glass and is capable of making his presence felt in the passing lanes and as a shot-blocker. The biggest thing holding Adetokunbo back at the moment is his lack of experience. He's a late bloomer who did not have the benefit of growing up playing against other top international talents his age in the various FIBA competitions over the years. Similar to many young prospects still growing into their frames, he's not incredibly physical at the moment, and is not immune from showing questionable decision making in the half-court. He is at times so focused on getting his teammates involved that he can be appear to lack somewhat of a killer instinct, and his average perimeter shooting ability and defensive prowess could surely become more of an issue against higher level competition if he does not improve in these areas. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-7223/ ©DraftExpress

[shakendfries]

...& here's one for Diallo

-High-flyer who charges the rim. He handles contact well and can finish with either hand.
-Very fluid, quick first step, and good body control; if he tightens his handle, he’ll be able to get anywhere he wants.
-High pick-and-roll scoring potential. Mixes change-of-pace moves with turbo drives into the lane.
-Rangy, wide frame bodes well for his defensive upside, as does his aggression.
-Long enough to block shots from the weakside. He can fall asleep off-ball at times, but makes up for it with hustle.

This also sounds similarly skilled to Giannis & more skilled than you're giving credit

At the end of the day, can the Nets really afford to play it safe without a shot at lottery picks for 2 years? Isn't going after the risk/reward guys the point of having two late 1st round picks?



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Not quite. They note his need to tighten his handle unlike Giannis. Ability to finish at the rim has only to do with his athletic ability mainly as does quick not skill based so much. Defensive upside due to frame length and again athleticism. Everything is based on athletic ability. That was nothing like Giannis who had great handle and feel for the game.

Y'all are fronting extra hard on Giannis' handle- the dude was a turnover machine when he entered the league. It was nowhere nearly as polished as you're advertising.

Didn't Shane Larkin have the highest vertical but couldn't finish at the rim? Regardless of his length helping it's just wrong to say that this isn't a skill.

Diallos scouting report is a carbon copy of Archie Goodwins. Essentially the Nets could draft Diallo as insurance for Godwin: either Goodwin pans out as a starter or Diallo surpasses him in a few years.

Diallos skills are linked to speed, instincts, things that can't be taught & this is somehow a bad thing after the Nets basically hired the most extensive development staff in the league? I'm just trying to understand why some feel drafting him is a grave mistake.

I could understand if the Nets had a shot at lottery talent, but when your options are Lance-lite, Courtney Lee-lite, & Kilpatrick-lite, and some unknown kid with as much athleticism as Zach LaVine, why not go after that unknown kid? It's worked out for Milwaukee with Giannis & Thon.

Heck, the NBA just added a new 2-way roster spot rule so teams could develop prospects like him!


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[Paradise]

The point is both were obviously raw but skilled with a motor and do it all skill set. The argument is about his amount of experience against quality talent to prove he's good or not but that still remained the reason Giannis went 15th and was mocked that year to go late first round before he wowed at Euro camp and shot up into the mid teens and was still deemed a complete project.

When Diallo's Rens lost to the PSA Cardinals 63-55 in Sunday's showcase game, the 6-foot-6 Class of 2017 guard went for 17 points, 5 rebounds, 5 steals and 2 blocks.

"His upside's through the roof," Rens coach Andy Borman told SNY.tv "He's the most athletic naturally gifted player in the country and maybe not even for his class, maybe just hands down. The kid is 6-6, can do everything and does everything willingly. Plays defense, blocks shots, hustle plays, but the most impressive thing that I've seen is his basketball IQ is through the roof. It's not like he's just a gifted kid but he doesn't know what he's doing. Everything he does has a reason."

https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/hamidou-diallo-wows-coaches-at-nike-stop-in-brooklyn/172952254

Fox had his own scouting report on his teammate.

Kentucky point guard De’Aaron Fox gave a more thorough scouting report from dealing with Diallo in practices.

“He’s tough, from [Queens], all New York guards are like that,’’ Fox said. “His ball skills are better than I thought. He can shoot the ball but has to shoot the ball better from the NBA 3. He’s extremely strong, a great defender. Ask me what was harder practice or games? Practices were a lot tougher than games.’’

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[NyCeEvO]

shouldnt we go for homerun and high potential guys when your at 22 and 27

Why should we be swinging for the fences in the 20s? That's a fool's errand & tends to happen when people fall in love with combine numbers rather than actual production. Draft guys that are skilled, have a good work ethic & can play. See LeVert, Butler or Green. Keep hitting singles and doubles, and somebody may surprise.

Some 2011 excerpts from DX on Butler:

The Texas native is not a freak athlete, or the type of player you'll see on an ESPN highlight reel any time soon. He does not have the pedigree of a future NBA All-Star. His physical tools are fairly average, and he still needs to develop certain parts of his skill set, namely his shooting consistency from the beyond the arc, to maximize his value. However, when evaluating a player like Butler, who simply plays winning basketball, has terrific intangibles, and does all of the little things the help his team, it is important to look at what he can do before condemning him for he can't be. Butler is a heady player who plays within a team concept. He defends, he makes the extra pass, he crashes the glass, he has a terrific basketball IQ, and his attitude is a coach's dream. A product of tireless reps in the gym and a detail oriented system, the senior has a very solid floor game, makes good decision with the ball, scraps on both ends, and maximizes the physical tools he does have. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jimmy-Butler-6315/ DraftExpress

Looking through the rest of this class of forwards, a few things stand out. First is how well Jimmy Butler seems to rank in virtually every category, starting with overall offensive efficiency (6th), and continuing with turnover rate (2nd best), free throw rate (2nd) and transition scoring (2nd). If he can improve his ability to make shots with his feet set (13th, 36% FG) he will likely carve out a long career for himself considering how staunch of a defender he is. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Situational-Statistics-the-2011-Forward-Crop-3762/ DraftExpress

This was the Greek Freak's similar scouting report back in 2013.

Weaknesses: His level of competition is a big concern, because it makes judging his talent and current level very difficult. Without question he has a large basement to go with his large ceiling ... Despite his athletic abilities he lacks elite explosiveness ... He has to bulk up, working especially in the lower body since he’s definitely too skinny to face NBA opponents at the moment ... The concern is how to develop him correctly from the muscular standpoint, in order to avoid loss of speed and mobility (Boris Diaw) ... His game off the ball is rather weak, especially related to spacing and use of screens and cuts, in fact most of his offensive production happens with the ball in his hands ... The only exception is when he's slashing to the basket for put backs or on the break ... Plus he basically has no mid-range game, he tends to attack the rim without considering the option of the pull up jumper ... He shot 31.3 % from three point line this year, showing good potential, but he lacks consistency at this point, his mechanics seems unnatural and not fluent ... On the defensive side, he needs to learn the basis, since he’s beaten by the opponents due a lack of proper positioning and comprehension ... The overall impression is of a raw prospect from basketball comprehension standpoint, whose is based on instincts, talent, physical gifts and natural feel for the game. For this reason he needs to be tested at a higher level of competition than Greek second division, since his level of experience is definitely low.

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Any draft pick who becomes more than a role player is an exception to the rule. Most players end up flaming out regardless of whether they are described as being athletic or not.

What the Spurs have done (and the Nets seem to be following suit in doing) is look for players who demonstrate a particular work ethic and drive, and then create conditions for players of this mold to succeed.

Thus far, we've been 2 for 2 in the draft and each of our D-League signees has improved under our system. That's all you can ask for.

I think the Nets have supreme confidence in their ability to mold and get the most out of their players. If the Nets are targeting Hamidou, it's because they believe that he can develop the skills to become a great player. (If he doesn't go into a good development system, I see him struggling big time.) If the Nets pass on him to select someone else, it's because they believe that someone else will yield better results under their program.

I think we need to seriously take into consideration how much team development impacts a player's mindset, understanding, and ability to perform over time. I think the Nets recognize that and believe that no matter who they pick, they'll do well. We should start having the same confidence in them as well.

[Rockice_24]

...& here's one for Diallo



This also sounds similarly skilled to Giannis & more skilled than you're giving credit

At the end of the day, can the Nets really afford to play it safe without a shot at lottery picks for 2 years? Isn't going after the risk/reward guys the point of having two late 1st round picks?



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Not quite. They note his need to tighten his handle unlike Giannis. Ability to finish at the rim has only to do with his athletic ability mainly as does quick not skill based so much. Defensive upside due to frame length and again athleticism. Everything is based on athletic ability. That was nothing like Giannis who had great handle and feel for the game.

Y'all are fronting extra hard on Giannis' handle- the dude was a turnover machine when he entered the league. It was nowhere nearly as polished as you're advertising.

Didn't Shane Larkin have the highest vertical but couldn't finish at the rim? Regardless of his length helping it's just wrong to say that this isn't a skill.

Diallos scouting report is a carbon copy of Archie Goodwins. Essentially the Nets could draft Diallo as insurance for Godwin: either Goodwin pans out as a starter or Diallo surpasses him in a few years.

Diallos skills are linked to speed, instincts, things that can't be taught & this is somehow a bad thing after the Nets basically hired the most extensive development staff in the league? I'm just trying to understand why some feel drafting him is a grave mistake.

I could understand if the Nets had a shot at lottery talent, but when your options are Lance-lite, Courtney Lee-lite, & Kilpatrick-lite, and some unknown kid with as much athleticism as Zach LaVine, why not go after that unknown kid? It's worked out for Milwaukee with Giannis & Thon.

Heck, the NBA just added a new 2-way roster spot rule so teams could develop prospects like him!


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LOL I'm doing no such thing. I didn't write any of that on Giannis. You asked for a scouting report on him that said he was more than just an athlete so I provided one, that's all.

We already have a Diallo type in Goodwin and our best young building block is a SG in Levert. Why are we all clamoring for another raw SG. Add to that we have Whitehead that should settle in at backup SG next year and what are we going to do with him. THere's no where for him to get minutes unless we give up on Goodwin, think Whitehead can develop into a backup PG or move Levert to SF. None of those sound appealing. Is Diallo a PG, I don't think he has the feel for it.

So what are we doing with him? I don't hate taking a chance on a talent like that just hate our log jam of similar talents at the SG spot already.

[shakendfries]

Not quite. They note his need to tighten his handle unlike Giannis. Ability to finish at the rim has only to do with his athletic ability mainly as does quick not skill based so much. Defensive upside due to frame length and again athleticism. Everything is based on athletic ability. That was nothing like Giannis who had great handle and feel for the game.

Y'all are fronting extra hard on Giannis' handle- the dude was a turnover machine when he entered the league. It was nowhere nearly as polished as you're advertising.

Didn't Shane Larkin have the highest vertical but couldn't finish at the rim? Regardless of his length helping it's just wrong to say that this isn't a skill.

Diallos scouting report is a carbon copy of Archie Goodwins. Essentially the Nets could draft Diallo as insurance for Godwin: either Goodwin pans out as a starter or Diallo surpasses him in a few years.

Diallos skills are linked to speed, instincts, things that can't be taught & this is somehow a bad thing after the Nets basically hired the most extensive development staff in the league? I'm just trying to understand why some feel drafting him is a grave mistake.

I could understand if the Nets had a shot at lottery talent, but when your options are Lance-lite, Courtney Lee-lite, & Kilpatrick-lite, and some unknown kid with as much athleticism as Zach LaVine, why not go after that unknown kid? It's worked out for Milwaukee with Giannis & Thon.

Heck, the NBA just added a new 2-way roster spot rule so teams could develop prospects like him!


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LOL I'm doing no such thing. I didn't write any of that on Giannis. You asked for a scouting report on him that said he was more than just an athlete so I provided one, that's all.

We already have a Diallo type in Goodwin and our best young building block is a SG in Levert. Why are we all clamoring for another raw SG. Add to that we have Whitehead that should settle in at backup SG next year and what are we going to do with him. THere's no where for him to get minutes unless we give up on Goodwin, think Whitehead can develop into a backup PG or move Levert to SF. None of those sound appealing. Is Diallo a PG, I don't think he has the feel for it.

So what are we doing with him? I don't hate taking a chance on a talent like that just hate our log jam of similar talents at the SG spot already.

Ah yes, the classic draft for fit vs take the best player available argument.

If you're so intent on traditional positions, why are the Nets interested in Reddick? Wouldn't he just add to the log jam at SG?

That was a rhetorical question. Atkinson already mentioned playing LeVert @ the 3 which would give the Nets a capable playmaker at that position, something that is becoming immensely valuable in the modern NBA.

That leaves Goodwin & Whitehead as the only Nets prospects at the 2, & Whitehead having potential at the 1, but Lin & Dinwiddie are good enough for now.

The point of drafting Diallo is putting him in the best position to succeed. On a team lacking talent (players with the stuff you can't teach) Diallo is immediately the most athletic. He has the best staff to help him develop, and little pressure to immediately produce until he surpasses the others in practice. This is literally a low risk situation for the Nets, unless you really see anther player with similar potential in the draft.

I'd also add I hope the Nets get Kurukus in the draft. He has the size and feel for the game you've been clamoring for. He also fills a hole for the Nets at the 3. Luckily the Nets have 2 picks this year, and could potentially draft/develop them both


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[Rockice_24]

Y'all are fronting extra hard on Giannis' handle- the dude was a turnover machine when he entered the league. It was nowhere nearly as polished as you're advertising.

Didn't Shane Larkin have the highest vertical but couldn't finish at the rim? Regardless of his length helping it's just wrong to say that this isn't a skill.

Diallos scouting report is a carbon copy of Archie Goodwins. Essentially the Nets could draft Diallo as insurance for Godwin: either Goodwin pans out as a starter or Diallo surpasses him in a few years.

Diallos skills are linked to speed, instincts, things that can't be taught & this is somehow a bad thing after the Nets basically hired the most extensive development staff in the league? I'm just trying to understand why some feel drafting him is a grave mistake.

I could understand if the Nets had a shot at lottery talent, but when your options are Lance-lite, Courtney Lee-lite, & Kilpatrick-lite, and some unknown kid with as much athleticism as Zach LaVine, why not go after that unknown kid? It's worked out for Milwaukee with Giannis & Thon.

Heck, the NBA just added a new 2-way roster spot rule so teams could develop prospects like him!


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LOL I'm doing no such thing. I didn't write any of that on Giannis. You asked for a scouting report on him that said he was more than just an athlete so I provided one, that's all.

We already have a Diallo type in Goodwin and our best young building block is a SG in Levert. Why are we all clamoring for another raw SG. Add to that we have Whitehead that should settle in at backup SG next year and what are we going to do with him. THere's no where for him to get minutes unless we give up on Goodwin, think Whitehead can develop into a backup PG or move Levert to SF. None of those sound appealing. Is Diallo a PG, I don't think he has the feel for it.

So what are we doing with him? I don't hate taking a chance on a talent like that just hate our log jam of similar talents at the SG spot already.

Ah yes, the classic draft for fit vs take the best player available argument.

If you're so intent on traditional positions, why are the Nets interested in Reddick? Wouldn't he just add to the log jam at SG?

That was a rhetorical question. Atkinson already mentioned playing LeVert @ the 3 which would give the Nets a capable playmaker at that position, something that is becoming immensely valuable in the modern NBA.

That leaves Goodwin & Whitehead as the only Nets prospects at the 2, & Whitehead having potential at the 1, but Lin & Dinwiddie are good enough for now.

The point of drafting Diallo is putting him in the best position to succeed. On a team lacking talent (players with the stuff you can't teach) Diallo is immediately the most athletic. He has the best staff to help him develop, and little pressure to immediately produce until he surpasses the others in practice. This is literally a low risk situation for the Nets, unless you really see anther player with similar potential in the draft.

I'd also add I hope the Nets get Kurukus in the draft. He has the size and feel for the game you've been clamoring for. He also fills a hole for the Nets at the 3. Luckily the Nets have 2 picks this year, and could potentially draft/develop them both


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Levert is a SG so while sure spot minutes at the 3 is fine he's not a long term answer there. Our GM said adding a SF was teh top priority so not sure where you're getting Levert is moving to the 3. Who says Diallo will be the best player on the board anyway. Your living in a hypothetical world where he is and no a high vert doesn't mean better prospect. I'm not saying pass on him because he's a SG I'm saying I'd pas because I like other players better in round 1. He's a round 2 guy to me and if you have the chance to grab him in round 2 then go for it. If he's obviously the best player on the board I wouldn't think twice about drafting him but that might not be the case until early in the 2nd. If we buy an early second I'd be ok with him. I think there will probably be better players still on the board at 22 and 27 though.

[Paradise]

LOL I'm doing no such thing. I didn't write any of that on Giannis. You asked for a scouting report on him that said he was more than just an athlete so I provided one, that's all.

We already have a Diallo type in Goodwin and our best young building block is a SG in Levert. Why are we all clamoring for another raw SG. Add to that we have Whitehead that should settle in at backup SG next year and what are we going to do with him. THere's no where for him to get minutes unless we give up on Goodwin, think Whitehead can develop into a backup PG or move Levert to SF. None of those sound appealing. Is Diallo a PG, I don't think he has the feel for it.

So what are we doing with him? I don't hate taking a chance on a talent like that just hate our log jam of similar talents at the SG spot already.

Ah yes, the classic draft for fit vs take the best player available argument.

If you're so intent on traditional positions, why are the Nets interested in Reddick? Wouldn't he just add to the log jam at SG?

That was a rhetorical question. Atkinson already mentioned playing LeVert @ the 3 which would give the Nets a capable playmaker at that position, something that is becoming immensely valuable in the modern NBA.

That leaves Goodwin & Whitehead as the only Nets prospects at the 2, & Whitehead having potential at the 1, but Lin & Dinwiddie are good enough for now.

The point of drafting Diallo is putting him in the best position to succeed. On a team lacking talent (players with the stuff you can't teach) Diallo is immediately the most athletic. He has the best staff to help him develop, and little pressure to immediately produce until he surpasses the others in practice. This is literally a low risk situation for the Nets, unless you really see anther player with similar potential in the draft.

I'd also add I hope the Nets get Kurukus in the draft. He has the size and feel for the game you've been clamoring for. He also fills a hole for the Nets at the 3. Luckily the Nets have 2 picks this year, and could potentially draft/develop them both


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Levert is a SG so while sure spot minutes at the 3 is fine he's not a long term answer there. Our GM said adding a SF was teh top priority so not sure where you're getting Levert is moving to the 3. Who says Diallo will be the best player on the board anyway. Your living in a hypothetical world where he is and no a high vert doesn't mean better prospect. I'm not saying pass on him because he's a SG I'm saying I'd pas because I like other players better in round 1. He's a round 2 guy to me and if you have the chance to grab him in round 2 then go for it. If he's obviously the best player on the board I wouldn't think twice about drafting him but that might not be the case until early in the 2nd. If we buy an early second I'd be ok with him. I think there will probably be better players still on the board at 22 and 27 though.

He's not going to be nowhere near the second round. He may go higher than 20.

I'm not sure what prospect has better upside than him in that range of the draft. Giles, Diallo are free lottery talents in the back half of the draft.


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[NyCeEvO]

Does anyone know if reporters are allowed into today's workouts? It would be nice to hear some news about what's going on in HSS.

Rawle Alkins, Yurtseven, and Melo Trimble were in on Tuesday. Diallo, Dorsey, and Hart are in today.

[Prokorov]

He's not going to be nowhere near the second round. He may go higher than 20.

I'm not sure what prospect has better upside than him in that range of the draft. Giles, Diallo are free lottery talents in the back half of the draft.


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i dont know that diallo is lottery talent... giles is, if you feel like he can get past his injuries. id be all in on taking giles.

i still dont know if diallo has more upside then archie goodwin or KJ mcdaniels. i havent see anything other then his verticale to show he is an nba player. and even with his athleticism, how does that translate in games.... if markinson thinks he has the chops im all for it.... but i wouldnt be shocked at all if he doesnt go first round. although calipari probably makes sure he does

[MrDollarBills]

Greek Freak was already very skilled during the draft. He was only raw in the sense of playing lower-level competition & not much in terms of true system play. The ball handling, passing, vision ,etc was all there already.

I'd rather see us take players that have demonstrated a good level of skill already, and not simply draft the best athletes. Obviously you want to see a minimum level of athleticism before considering a guy, but I'll always give the nod to a very skilled ok athlete over an unskilled hyperathletic player.

I might be mistaken by Giannis was called a reach pick by the Bucks, no?

[DarkXaero]

Greek Freak was already very skilled during the draft. He was only raw in the sense of playing lower-level competition & not much in terms of true system play. The ball handling, passing, vision ,etc was all there already.

I'd rather see us take players that have demonstrated a good level of skill already, and not simply draft the best athletes. Obviously you want to see a minimum level of athleticism before considering a guy, but I'll always give the nod to a very skilled ok athlete over an unskilled hyperathletic player.

I might be mistaken by Giannis was called a reach pick by the Bucks, no?

I think at the time, he was.

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[Prokorov]

...& here's one for Diallo



This also sounds similarly skilled to Giannis & more skilled than you're giving credit

At the end of the day, can the Nets really afford to play it safe without a shot at lottery picks for 2 years? Isn't going after the risk/reward guys the point of having two late 1st round picks?



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Not quite. They note his need to tighten his handle unlike Giannis. Ability to finish at the rim has only to do with his athletic ability mainly as does quick not skill based so much. Defensive upside due to frame length and again athleticism. Everything is based on athletic ability. That was nothing like Giannis who had great handle and feel for the game.

Y'all are fronting extra hard on Giannis' handle- the dude was a turnover machine when he entered the league. It was nowhere nearly as polished as you're advertising.

Didn't Shane Larkin have the highest vertical but couldn't finish at the rim? Regardless of his length helping it's just wrong to say that this isn't a skill.

Diallos scouting report is a carbon copy of Archie Goodwins. Essentially the Nets could draft Diallo as insurance for Godwin: either Goodwin pans out as a starter or Diallo surpasses him in a few years.

Diallos skills are linked to speed, instincts, things that can't be taught & this is somehow a bad thing after the Nets basically hired the most extensive development staff in the league? I'm just trying to understand why some feel drafting him is a grave mistake.

I could understand if the Nets had a shot at lottery talent, but when your options are Lance-lite, Courtney Lee-lite, & Kilpatrick-lite, and some unknown kid with as much athleticism as Zach LaVine, why not go after that unknown kid? It's worked out for Milwaukee with Giannis & Thon.

Heck, the NBA just added a new 2-way roster spot rule so teams could develop prospects like him!


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first i dont think anyone is calling it a mistake... just pointing out this mythical high ceiling is kind of baseless. and there really is no basis to call him lottery talent, especially since it sounds like he wont even go late lottery. Id be all for taking him if i thought he had some huge upside. but i dont. if marks does, ill support the decision.

i think there is lotto talent to be found. Giles, fergeson if he slips, hartnstein if you can polish him up. Patton if you can move up a few picks.

Diallo is being talk about like he is some phenom. the archie goodwin comparisions seem much more likely. not that its a bad thing. at 22/27 you are like 95% likely to get a bench role player. i think if you want ceiling, their are better options then diallo

[shakendfries]

Any info on Kurucs? From what I've seen, he has the size and feel for the game that isn't polished but in a sense is almost LeVert like (overall a smart player- decent handles, solid passer, good finisher)


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[Prokorov]

Any info on Kurucs? From what I've seen, he has the size and feel for the game that isn't polished but in a sense is almost LeVert like (overall a smart player- decent handles, solid passer, good finisher)


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i havent found full games on hi only highlights. not impressed but thats a really uninformed opinion based soley on highlights

[Claud]

Any info on Kurucs? From what I've seen, he has the size and feel for the game that isn't polished but in a sense is almost LeVert like (overall a smart player- decent handles, solid passer, good finisher)


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i havent found full games on hi only highlights. not impressed but thats a really uninformed opinion based soley on highlights

Best case scenario a more athletic Bogs in 3-4 years time.

[jbeachboy]

who is your favorite overseas prospect that we can get and why?

[shakendfries]

I have a feeling this draft is gonna suck super hard for the Nets


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