Mock Off-Season: NBA Draft and continuation of Mock Offseason part 1

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Post#141 » by Mich3006 » Fri May 19, 2017 8:16 pm

Prokorov wrote:
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Prokorov wrote:.


Ok let's just get this done.

nets in: turner, leonard, 20, 26
nets out: tpe, #55, 2018 second rounder

blazers: #55, 2018 second rounder (better of nets/philly/indy)
blazers out: leonard, turner, 20,26

Does that work? I know Socrates was interested in joining in on this deal, if you would rather have Mahinmi rather than Turner. So we can do this or we can bring him in.

Your call.

Deal?


lets just get it done and make it official. ill send it to sport crazy via pm

Thought that Faried/Davis part is on once again
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Post#142 » by kalenclayton » Fri May 19, 2017 8:19 pm

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kalenclayton wrote:That will probably work. One spot won't kill the deal. I really like the idea for the both of us (in real life as well). You get cap space and we upgrade our pick.



im ready to send it via pm to sport crazy whenever you want to make it happen. just let me know.


any word on booker/27 for 34?

I'm leaning toward yes. Is there any way to get #57 as well?
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Post#143 » by Soulyss » Fri May 19, 2017 8:26 pm

Ayatollah wrote:
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Ayatollah wrote: Send me Ed Davis and I'd include my 2nds in our 3-way deal. TPE and Davis is a package I like

Prokorov wrote:.


nets in: turner, leonard, #20, #49, #51
nets out: tpe, 2018 second rounder

blazers in: TPE, Faried, 2018 second rounder (better of nets/philly/indy)
blazers out: leonard, turner, davis, 20

nuggets in: tpe, Davis
nuggets out: faried, 49, 51

What about this...

Prokorov: instead of giving up 2 2nds and getting 26, you give up a 2nd next year replacing the one I am missing, and you get two this year, and keep 55 and I keep 26.

Does this work for everyone?

Nuggets accept.


Prokorov are you ok with this version?
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Post#144 » by bdpecore » Fri May 19, 2017 9:15 pm

Are the Knicks still on the clock at #8?


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Post#145 » by Soulyss » Fri May 19, 2017 9:17 pm

bdpecore wrote:Are the Knicks still on the clock at #8?


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Yep. Still lots of nice PG's on the board.
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Post#146 » by kalenclayton » Fri May 19, 2017 9:17 pm

bdpecore wrote:Are the Knicks still on the clock at #8?


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It's been Knick o'clock for a while now. :)
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Post#147 » by bdpecore » Fri May 19, 2017 9:24 pm

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bdpecore wrote:Are the Knicks still on the clock at #8?


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It's been Knick o'clock for a while now. :)

️ I see what you did there.
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Post#148 » by Texas Chuck » Fri May 19, 2017 9:24 pm

jredsaz wrote:Spurs are willing to discuss a trade centered on moving up into the 9-11 range in exchange for LaMarcus Aldridge. We are targeting a specific prospect. Let me know if there is any interest.

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spankymoore7 wrote:.


Thanks for the offer and LMA is a local guy, but Dallas isn't prepared to take advantage of LMA as we are rebuilding. We still wouldn't be a playoff team even. :(
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Post#149 » by kalenclayton » Fri May 19, 2017 9:27 pm

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Any interest in Justin Anderson and #47 for Koufos and #34?

We will have to wait on this, as we are engaged in trade discussions with the Nets. We are likely to use #34 with them, but if it falls apart, we will let you know. Koufos is still on the table though.
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Post#150 » by bdpecore » Fri May 19, 2017 9:40 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
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kalenclayton wrote:.

Any interest in Justin Anderson and #47 for Koufos and #34?

We will have to wait on this, as we are engaged in trade discussions with the Nets. We are likely to use #34 with them, but if it falls apart, we will let you know. Koufos is still on the table though.


Prokorov wrote:.


Any way we could make it a three way deal?

Maybe...

Nets out: Booker and #27
Nets In: Anderson

Kings Out: Koufos and #34
Kings In: #27

Bucks Out: Anderson
Bucks In: Booker, Koufos and #34

Thoughts?
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Post#151 » by NashtyNas » Fri May 19, 2017 9:42 pm

Soulyss wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
Soulyss wrote:

nets in: turner, leonard, #20, #49, #51
nets out: tpe, 2018 second rounder

blazers in: TPE, Faried, 2018 second rounder (better of nets/philly/indy)
blazers out: leonard, turner, davis, 20

nuggets in: tpe, Davis
nuggets out: faried, 49, 51

What about this...

Prokorov: instead of giving up 2 2nds and getting 26, you give up a 2nd next year replacing the one I am missing, and you get two this year, and keep 55 and I keep 26.

Does this work for everyone?

Nuggets accept.


Prokorov are you ok with this version?


Also are you okay with Mahinmi instead of Turner? I'd like to be involved if so. Please let us know what you're accepting when you say "accept." Thanks.
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Post#152 » by kalenclayton » Fri May 19, 2017 9:54 pm

bdpecore wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
bdpecore wrote:Any interest in Justin Anderson and #47 for Koufos and #34?

We will have to wait on this, as we are engaged in trade discussions with the Nets. We are likely to use #34 with them, but if it falls apart, we will let you know. Koufos is still on the table though.


Prokorov wrote:.


Any way we could make it a three way deal?

Maybe...

Nets out: Booker and #27
Nets In: Anderson

Kings Out: Koufos and #34
Kings In: #27

Bucks Out: Anderson
Bucks In: Booker, Koufos and #34

Thoughts?

If we are to include the Bucks and send Koufos out, then the Kings are going to need more. We see Koufos as positive value and he serves a purpose on our team (great teammate and mentor; solid post player who does the little things).
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Post#153 » by NashtyNas » Fri May 19, 2017 9:55 pm

spankymoore7 wrote:
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You willing to take Plumlee's contract?

Would MKG be included as well?

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You want MKG and the 11th pick for a one year rental of Aldridge? Sorry cant do that


What about something like:

CHA trades Williams, Plumlee, Belinelli, 11 for Aldridge, Gortat
SAS trades Aldridge for Plumlee, Satoransky, 11
WAS trades Gortat, Satoransky for Williams, Belinelli
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Post#154 » by spankymoore7 » Fri May 19, 2017 10:00 pm

I_Socrates wrote:
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jredsaz wrote:Would MKG be included as well?

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You want MKG and the 11th pick for a one year rental of Aldridge? Sorry cant do that


What about something like:

CHA trades Williams, Plumlee, Belinelli, 11 for Aldridge, Gortat
SAS trades Aldridge for Plumlee, Satoransky, 11
WAS trades Gortat, Satoransky for Williams, Belinelli

Don't have Williams. Pledged in another trade to Milwaukee. Plus don't want to give up a wing for an extra big. Not enough minutes for Aldridge, Gortat, Zeller, and Kaminsky

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Post#155 » by bdpecore » Fri May 19, 2017 10:02 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:We will have to wait on this, as we are engaged in trade discussions with the Nets. We are likely to use #34 with them, but if it falls apart, we will let you know. Koufos is still on the table though.


Prokorov wrote:.


Any way we could make it a three way deal?

Maybe...

Nets out: Booker and #27
Nets In: Anderson

Kings Out: Koufos and #34
Kings In: #27

Bucks Out: Anderson
Bucks In: Booker, Koufos and #34

Thoughts?

If we are to include the Bucks and send Koufos out, then the Kings are going to need more. We see Koufos as positive value and he serves a purpose on our team (great teammate and mentor; solid post player who does the little things).

I figured moving up 7 spots and back into the first (4yr contracts instead of 3) is fair value for Koufos. I'm also the one taking on the bad salary (Booker) instead of you in this proposal so thought that should even it out a bit as well.

What would you be looking for us to add?

Edit: Your original deal was Booker and 27 for 34 correct? This means you can still take on a bad contract for another asset later on. I really feel the current value is fair for the Kings. I'm just not sure how the Nets value Anderson.
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Post#156 » by kalenclayton » Fri May 19, 2017 10:24 pm

bdpecore wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
bdpecore wrote:


Any way we could make it a three way deal?

Maybe...

Nets out: Booker and #27
Nets In: Anderson

Kings Out: Koufos and #34
Kings In: #27

Bucks Out: Anderson
Bucks In: Booker, Koufos and #34

Thoughts?

If we are to include the Bucks and send Koufos out, then the Kings are going to need more. We see Koufos as positive value and he serves a purpose on our team (great teammate and mentor; solid post player who does the little things).

I figured moving up 7 spots and back into the first (4yr contracts instead of 3) is fair value for Koufos. I'm also the one taking on the bad salary (Booker) instead of you in this proposal so thought that should even it out a bit as well.

What would you be looking for us to add?

The trade proposal that the Kings and Nets have been discussing has been:
Nets send Booker and #27
Kings send #34

We are completely fine with taking on Booker's salary because we have a TON of cap space. We have no issue taking on that contract. With the addition of the Bucks, we basically sent Koufos away for free with only positive being that we didn't have to pay for Booker. We value Koufos more than the salary that we would save sending him away. If we move Koufos, we are moving him away for a player who can help us, not salary relief.

The only (slightly) obtainable pieces the Bucks have that we are interested in are Malcolm Brogdon, Jabari Parker, and picks. From what I've seen here, you really like Parker and I don't blame you. He is a solid young player who is coming off of a (2nd) big injury. You would be selling low on the guy if you dealt him now. We are interested in him, but we are not likely to give you the value that you are seeking. That leaves us with 2 other directions:
1. We are interested in future firsts if you want to go that route. We could send Koufos to you for a future first.
2. Brogdon. We really like Brogdon and I'm certain that you do too. He is a team player and seems to be quite a hustler. I don't think you value Koufos and Brogdon the same so we may not have a deal there, but it could be the basis of a deal.
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Post#157 » by bdpecore » Fri May 19, 2017 10:34 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
bdpecore wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:If we are to include the Bucks and send Koufos out, then the Kings are going to need more. We see Koufos as positive value and he serves a purpose on our team (great teammate and mentor; solid post player who does the little things).

I figured moving up 7 spots and back into the first (4yr contracts instead of 3) is fair value for Koufos. I'm also the one taking on the bad salary (Booker) instead of you in this proposal so thought that should even it out a bit as well.

What would you be looking for us to add?

The trade proposal that the Kings and Nets have been discussing has been:
Nets send Booker and #27
Kings send #34

We are completely fine with taking on Booker's salary because we have a TON of cap space. We have no issue taking on that contract. With the addition of the Bucks, we basically sent Koufos away for free with only positive being that we didn't have to pay for Booker. We value Koufos more than the salary that we would save sending him away. If we move Koufos, we are moving him away for a player who can help us, not salary relief.

The only (slightly) obtainable pieces the Bucks have that we are interested in are Malcolm Brogdon, Jabari Parker, and picks. From what I've seen here, you really like Parker and I don't blame you. He is a solid young player who is coming off of a (2nd) big injury. You would be selling low on the guy if you dealt him now. We are interested in him, but we are not likely to give you the value that you are seeking. That leaves us with 2 other directions:
1. We are interested in future firsts if you want to go that route. We could send Koufos to you for a future first.
2. Brogdon. We really like Brogdon and I'm certain that you do too. He is a team player and seems to be quite a hustler. I don't think you value Koufos and Brogdon the same so we may not have a deal there, but it could be the basis of a deal.

Your original deal was Booker and 27 for 34 correct? Since we are now taking on Booker you are basically moving up 7 spots and back into the 1st where you gain another year of cheap control of whoever you decide to draft. This has some value along with to cap flexibility to still take on a bad contract for another asset later on. I really feel the current value is fair for the Kings. I'm just not sure how the Nets value Anderson.

And neither Brogdon or Parker would even be considered in a deal centered around a back up center coming back to Milwaukee. Also with glut of centers available via trade I'm not willing to spend a future 1st for Koufos.
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Post#158 » by DocRI » Fri May 19, 2017 10:39 pm

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Any interest in moving up to 10?


Just in case you missed my other reply, yes, I'm interested. What more do you want on top of #12? Please let me know!
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Post#159 » by kalenclayton » Fri May 19, 2017 10:46 pm

DocRI wrote:
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Any interest in moving up to 10?


Just in case you missed my other reply, yes, I'm interested. What more do you want on top of #12? Please let me know!

Whoops. :-? Sorry about that. We are interested in Stanley Johnson, but are unsure of how we can come up with extra value. What kind of value are you seeking for him? If we can't make a move for him, we are interested in future picks.
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Post#160 » by kalenclayton » Fri May 19, 2017 10:51 pm

bdpecore wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
bdpecore wrote:I figured moving up 7 spots and back into the first (4yr contracts instead of 3) is fair value for Koufos. I'm also the one taking on the bad salary (Booker) instead of you in this proposal so thought that should even it out a bit as well.

What would you be looking for us to add?

The trade proposal that the Kings and Nets have been discussing has been:
Nets send Booker and #27
Kings send #34

We are completely fine with taking on Booker's salary because we have a TON of cap space. We have no issue taking on that contract. With the addition of the Bucks, we basically sent Koufos away for free with only positive being that we didn't have to pay for Booker. We value Koufos more than the salary that we would save sending him away. If we move Koufos, we are moving him away for a player who can help us, not salary relief.

The only (slightly) obtainable pieces the Bucks have that we are interested in are Malcolm Brogdon, Jabari Parker, and picks. From what I've seen here, you really like Parker and I don't blame you. He is a solid young player who is coming off of a (2nd) big injury. You would be selling low on the guy if you dealt him now. We are interested in him, but we are not likely to give you the value that you are seeking. That leaves us with 2 other directions:
1. We are interested in future firsts if you want to go that route. We could send Koufos to you for a future first.
2. Brogdon. We really like Brogdon and I'm certain that you do too. He is a team player and seems to be quite a hustler. I don't think you value Koufos and Brogdon the same so we may not have a deal there, but it could be the basis of a deal.

Your original deal was Booker and 27 for 34 correct? Since we are now taking on Booker you are basically moving up 7 spots and back into the 1st where you gain another year of cheap control of whoever you decide to draft. This has some value along with to cap flexibility to still take on a bad contract for another asset later on. I really feel the current value is fair for the Kings. I'm just not sure how the Nets value Anderson.

And neither Brogdon or Parker would even be considered in a deal centered around a back up center coming back to Milwaukee. Also with glut of centers available via trade I'm not willing to spend a future 1st for Koufos.

We totally get it. You value Parker and Brogdon highly and we expect you to. They are good players with some nice potential. As for our current deal, we favor the initial deal that we had with the Nets. We can take on Booker's contract no problem. This allows us to move in to the first round, get a better chance at the guy we want, and keep Koufos. Unfortunately, we will have to decline our side of the deal and possibly take the Nets deal. It is in our best interest to do it that way.

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