NBA 2017 Draft Prospects Thread

stitches · Post #581 » by **stitches** » Tue May 16, 2017 6:14 pm

KqWIN wrote:So what do we know about Rodions Kurcus?

Very nice size, and good athleticism. Seems like a smart player with good, not great skill level. The shot looks good, even though he's not shooting great %s in Spain. At least his FT% is at about 80%, which combined with the good looking form projects well for his future as a shooter. I have to admit I've watched very limited 'film' of him(youtube vids, lol). He never seems to go left...

stitches · Post #582 » by **stitches** » Tue May 16, 2017 6:30 pm

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:
KqWIN wrote:So what do we know about Rodions Kurcus?

Not much, tbh.

He's a solid shooter with really good looking mechanics. He has good size for an NBA wing and appears to have good athleticism. Seems to have decent handles, but it's hard to say with the limited film we have on him. I don't have a clue about his defense. There's just not much film of him out there, but the limited amount we have shows that there's a lot to like. Especially his combo of size, shooting and athleticism.

He's a bit like... worse version of Hezonja coming out of Spain. Worse athleticism, worse shooting... maybe he has a bit more wiggle and a little better handle. I have no idea about his defense, either.

Hoops Addict · Post #583 » by **Hoops Addict** » Thu May 18, 2017 4:07 pm

MalonesElbows wrote:
stitches wrote:Here's my big board post-combine with tiers:
--------------------------------------------tier 1
1. Markelle Fultz
--------------------------------------------tier 2
2. Josh Jackson
3. Jayson Tatum
4. Jonathan Isaac
5. Dennis Smith JR
6. Lonzo Ball
--------------------------------------------tier 3
7. Lauri Markkanen
8. Frank Ntilikina
9. De'Aaron Fox
10. Malik Monk
11. Justin Patton
12. Bam Adebayo
--------------------------------------------tier 4
13. Zach Collins
14. OG Anunoby
15. Donovan Mitchell
16. Ike Anigbou
17. Rodions Kurucs
18. Harry Giles
19. Jonathan Jeanne
20. Frank Jackson
21. Hamidou Diallo
--------------------------------------------tier 5
22. Sindarius Thornwell
23. DJ Wilson
24. Jarrett Allen
25. Anzejs Pasecniks
26. Justin Jackson (UNC)
27. Kyle Kuzma
28. TJ Leaf
29. Isaiah Hartenstein
30. Terrance Ferguson
31. Jawun Evans
32. Ivan Rabb
33. Thomas Bryant
34. Frank Mason III
35. Luke Kennard
...

Tiers are moronic and pointless. Bet you would have had Gobert in a "Tier 5".

It is moronic of you to insult Stitches tiers. It his opinion....a good way of evaluating the potential. Of course, some players will outperform their expectations. Stitches. Your tiers are pretty good. Jeanne should be lower.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #584 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Fri May 19, 2017 4:48 am

Here's my first rendition of a mock draft (totally based off my opinion, so take it for what it is):

1: Markelle Fultz
2: Lonzo Ball
3:De’Aaron Fox
4: Josh Jackson
5: Jayson Tatum
6: Malik Monk
7: Johnathan Isaac
8: Frank Ntlikina
9: Lauri Markkanen
10: Dennis Smith
11: Donovan Mitchell
12: Jarrett Allen
13: OG Anunoby
14: Justin Jackson (UNC)
15: Harry Giles
16: Frank Jackson
17: Justin Patton
18: TJ Leaf
19: Zach Collins
20: John Collins
21: Rodions Kurcus
22: Terrance Ferguson
23: Hamidou Diallo
*24: Ike Anigbogu
25: Bam Edebayo
26: Jordan Bell
27: Isaiah Hartenstein
28: Anzejs Pasecniks
29: Jawun Evans
*30: DJ Wilson

31: Semi Ojeleye
32: Kyle Kuzma
33: Ivan Rabb
34: Luke Kennard
35: Derrick White
36: Josh Hart
37: Thomas Bryant
38: Tyler Lydon
39: Wesley Iwundu
40: Caleb Swanigan
41: Tony Bradley
*42: Mathias Lessort
43: Devin Robinson
44: Dillon Brooks
45: Sindarius Thornwell
46: Justin Jackson (Maryland)
47: Jonah Bolden
48: Jonathan Jeanne
49: Frank Mason III
50: Jaron Blossomgame
51: Edmond Sumner
52: Monte Morris
53: Mortiz Wagner
54: PJ Dozier
*55: Cameron Oliver
56: Jonathan Motley
57: Damyean Dotson
58: Omer Yureseven
59: LJ Peak
60: Malcolm Hill

The Jazz end up with a bunch of big guys...

pickIBL · Post #585 » by **pickIBL** » Fri May 19, 2017 2:39 pm

Oh boy here goes

1. Josh Jackson
2. Markelle Fultz
3. De'Aaron Fox
4. Frank Ntilinka
5. Lonzo Ball
6. Jason Tatum
7. Dennis Smith
8. Lauri Markkanen
9. Jonathan Isaac
10. Malik Monk
11. Jonathan Jeanne
12. TJ Leaf
13. Donovan Mitchell
14. Jarrett Allen
15. Bam Adebayo
16. Isaiah Hartenstein
17. OG Anunoby
18. Mathias Lessort
19. Justin Jackson
20. Anzejs Pasecniks
21. Ivan Rabb
22. Terrance Ferguson
23. George De Paula
24. Hamidou Diallo
25. Caleb Swanigan
26. Luke Kennard
27. Justin Patton
28. Zach Collins
29. Alpha Kaba
30. Cyrille Eliezer-Vanerot (Bubble)
31. Thomas Bryant (Bubble)

stitches · Post #586 » by **stitches** » Fri May 19, 2017 2:53 pm

pickIBL wrote:Oh boy here goes

1. Josh Jackson
2. Markelle Fultz
3. De'Aaron Fox
4. Frank Ntilinka
5. Lonzo Ball
6. Jason Tatum
7. Dennis Smith
8. Lauri Markkanen
9. Jonathan Isaac
10. Malik Monk
11. Jonathan Jeanne
12. TJ Leaf
13. Donovan Mitchell
14. Jarrett Allen
15. Bam Adebayo
16. Isaiah Hartenstein
17. OG Anunoby
18. Mathias Lessort
19. Justin Jackson
20. Anzejs Pasecniks
21. Ivan Rabb
22. Terrance Ferguson
23. George De Paula
24. Hamidou Diallo
25. Caleb Swanigan
26. Luke Kennard
27. Justin Patton
28. Zach Collins
29. Alpha Kaba
30. Cyrille Eliezer-Vanerot (Bubble)
31. Thomas Bryant (Bubble)

Can you tell us more about
18. Mathias Lessort
30. Cyrille Eliezer-Vanerot

I haven't watched them at all...

pickIBL · Post #587 » by **pickIBL** » Fri May 19, 2017 3:47 pm

Lessort is ready to play now. Physically impressive. Fast down the court. According to dx he's top 4 PER in Pro A... which is insane.

Cryille is 6'8 with a 7'2 wingspan. Looked like a 3&D guy sick athleticism. Watch him on youtube. Could be a better gerald green. Starting to put the ball on the floor and dunk with his head at the rim. YouTube him.

pickIBL · Post #588 » by **pickIBL** » Fri May 19, 2017 3:54 pm

His release is up and quicker than 2 years ago. Credit paris for developing him. He's also not coughing up the ball. Young and getting 22 mpg on a good pro a team. I'd take him.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #589 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Fri May 19, 2017 5:55 pm

pickIBL wrote:Cryille is 6'8 with a 7'2 wingspan. Looked like a 3&D guy sick athleticism. Watch him on youtube. Could be a better gerald green. Starting to put the ball on the floor and dunk with his head at the rim. YouTube him.

How have I not heard of this guy before? He's only 20 years old and has NBA size, length and athleticism. Stroke looks really solid, plays tough D and has a high motor.

*goes to add him to my big board*

pickIBL · Post #590 » by **pickIBL** » Sat May 20, 2017 2:24 pm

I believe Arnoldas Kulboka also declared. I would give him a 2nd round guarantee to come over to the g league.

Very young, still growing and learning to play D. The raw abilities are there to draft and sign right now.

Had one good game in the 1st division, but plays in the German 2nd division. Young... born 01/98

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Germany/Baunach-Young-Pikes/6073?Page=3

Watch on YouTube

stitches · Post #591 » by **stitches** » Sat May 20, 2017 3:30 pm

pickIBL wrote:I believe Arnoldas Kulboka also declared. I would give him a 2nd round guarantee to come over to the g league.

Very young, still growing and learning to play D. The raw abilities are there to draft and sign right now.

Had one good game in the 1st division, but plays in the German 2nd division. Young... born 01/98

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Germany/Baunach-Young-Pikes/6073?Page=3

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

I watched him against France. He was on fire from 3. Frank broke his ankles, though... I don't know what position he plays in the league. Whatever position he plays, his D needs serious work. He seems extremely skinny, too. But overall - yes, I'd definitely take a shot in the second.

pickIBL · Post #592 » by **pickIBL** » Sat May 20, 2017 4:19 pm

stitches wrote:
pickIBL wrote:I believe Arnoldas Kulboka also declared. I would give him a 2nd round guarantee to come over to the g league.

Very young, still growing and learning to play D. The raw abilities are there to draft and sign right now.

Had one good game in the 1st division, but plays in the German 2nd division. Young... born 01/98

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Germany/Baunach-Young-Pikes/6073?Page=3

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

I watched him against France. He was on fire from 3. Frank broke his ankles, though... I don't know what position he plays in the league. Whatever position he plays, his D needs serious work. He seems extremely skinny, too. But overall - yes, I'd definitely take a shot in the second.

He actually reminds me of a young certain somebody that has since worked on his game and body a lot.

pickIBL · Post #593 » by **pickIBL** » Sat May 20, 2017 4:20 pm

Also seems to want to copy the hair.

pickIBL · Post #594 » by **pickIBL** » Sat May 20, 2017 4:33 pm

Okay one more... a gamer. Kid can really play. Combo... I'm not sure in a bad sense of the word, especially in today's NBA. A scoring point. With all this hype around bringing Edwin Jackson over. Eli Okobo might be Jackson with a little Mike Taylor athleticism. With a 6'10 wingspan he's actually longer than both.

Watch on YouTube

stitches · Post #595 » by **stitches** » Sat May 20, 2017 5:06 pm

pickIBL wrote:Also seems to want to copy the hair.

Who would that be?

pickIBL · Post #596 » by **pickIBL** » Sat May 20, 2017 5:15 pm

stitches wrote:
pickIBL wrote:Also seems to want to copy the hair.

Who would that be?

Young hayward physique with older hayward buzz and flip.

stitches · Post #597 » by **stitches** » Sat May 20, 2017 5:16 pm

pickIBL wrote:
stitches wrote:
pickIBL wrote:Also seems to want to copy the hair.

Who would that be?

Young hayward physique with older hayward buzz and flip.

Hahaha

Nice one.

pickIBL · Post #598 » by **pickIBL** » Sat May 20, 2017 5:18 pm

Just can't afford the gel yet.

stitches · Post #599 » by **stitches** » Sat May 20, 2017 5:21 pm

pickIBL wrote:

Just can't afford the gel yet.

Maybe he likes his hair disheveled.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #600 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Sat May 20, 2017 11:24 pm

stitches wrote:I watched him against France. He was on fire from 3. Frank broke his ankles, though... I don't know what position he plays in the league. Whatever position he plays, his D needs serious work. He seems extremely skinny, too. But overall - yes, I'd definitely take a shot in the second.

Ya, I've watched him some too and this is also pretty much how I feel. I'm not sure how he defends anyone in the NBA and I don't know what position I'd play him at.

I'd rather try to get him on a summer league roster for a tryout rather than use one of our 2nds on him. There's guys like Peak, Hill and Dotson late in the 2nd that are better prospects than him.