2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion

[RKL]

Draft prospect of the day: Bam Adebayo (C, Kentucky)
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Bam-Adebayo-72747/

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I like Bam and TJ Leaf. TJ reminds me of a young Chandler Parsons. Oh and Luke Kennard.

[BlackieMamba]

Draft Night Trade

Lakers: #2, #28 & Luol Deng

Kings: #5 & #10

Why Sacramento Considers It:

1. They're Sacramento.
2. They fall in love with Josh Jackson who certainly won't be available at 5.
3. They fall in love with Ball and the publicity that surrounds him, with the idea of him being the face of their franchise and keeping the Kings relevant.

Why Lakers Consider It:

1. They don't if Boston passes on Fultz, he's way too good of a prospect and they shouldn't hesitate to pick him up if Boston passes.
2. This draft class is deep and moving down takes advantage of that fact.
3. Unload Luol Deng's ridiculous contract.
4. If Ball declines to workout for other teams he may even land to them at #5. But if he doesn't either Tatum or Fox certainly will be available and I believe both have just as high of a ceiling as Lonzo does.
5. The #10 can be used to draft a talented prospect such as; Jonathan Isaac, Ntilikina, Markannen, Zach or John Collins, or the #10 can be packaged with Russell or Randle for PG.

Who declines this offer?


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[Jkam31]

If Ball is so good, how did Fox lay 39-points on Ball and UCLA in that NCAA tournament Ass whippin? Ball scored like...10-points? I'd pass on Ball. Take Fox Magic.

if Kobe is so good, why some random scrubs lay so-many points on his less than meh of 20 years career ?

really ? watch all full UCLA game and you will understand why Lonzo Ball is so special. In the first 5 minutes you will understand and by the time the game is over you will in awe and ask why you ever question about his ability.

Oh god, its gotten to the point where people are comparing Lonzo to Kobe? gtfo

Were you not outraged by the Kidd comparisons, outrages


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[Leor_77]

I'm not one to usually care what other fans think, but there seems to be many fans from other teams (not just Celtics, but Sixers, Suns, etc. [i.e. teams that could potential get him if we pass on him]) that are not crazy about Ball. This certainly wasn't the case with Ingram and/or Russell (most people were in love with them as prospects).

[moonpie]

Draft prospect of the day: Jordan Bell (F/C, Oregon)
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jordan-Bell-70316/

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[TyCobb]

LBC in the house. Bell for #28 por favor.

[Slava]

Not even sure how but Luke Kennard shot upto 14th in the mocks.

[XXBKXX]

Hamidou Diallo just posted a 44.5" vert in the draft which is second best of all time which beats Wiggins 44" vert. He's testing the waters in the draft before deciding to play in Kentucky. He's following the Thon Maker loop hole none and done path. Originally he was projected as an early second round now he's showing up as end of first round. With that vert he might be shooting up more. I would LOVE to get him at our 28th pick if he's there. Let him get some D league run and see how he does. Upside is too high. Have a feeling other teams will gamble on him though. Next year he will probably be a top 5 pick if things go as planned. What are your guys thoughts? You think he will be there for us at 28 and do you think we should draft him ? He's an interesting prospect for a SG.

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[mcscotty]

Would you trade the #2 and #28 and Deng for Porzingis and Anthony?

[DaddyCool19]

Would you trade the #2 and #28 and Deng for Porzingis and Anthony?

I don't think the Knicks would do it.

[mcscotty]

Would you trade the #2 and #28 and Deng for Porzingis and Anthony?

I don't think the Knicks would do it.

I agree. Under normal circumstances, probably not. But their hands could be forced into making a deal that is satisfactory to the aforementioned players. The roster might not be appealing to Anthony, but the destination certainly is. Both these players want nothing to do with the triangle and they would both love to be in LA.

[AcecardZ]

Would you trade the #2 and #28 and Deng for Porzingis and Anthony?

**** no! Carmelo is washed up and Porzingis' body won't hold up! Add to that Kristaps didn't show much improvement over his rookie season.

[aaron_gray]

Is the Maryland Justin Jackson staying in this year's draft

[mcscotty]

Would you trade the #2 and #28 and Deng for Porzingis and Anthony?

**** no! Carmelo is washed up and Porzingis' body won't hold up! Add to that Kristaps didn't show much improvement over his rookie season.

I'm no Melo fan, but we'd get a couple of shooters who can stretch the floor and Melo could snag us something at the trade deadline in his contract year. That's kind of how we could sell it to him. The guy needs to start over professionally and personally. Come out to LA and unwind, if things don't work out, we'll get you on a contender.

[aaron_gray]

I also want to add 2 qualifiers to the Houston pick.

a. If you do choose to move Deng (or Mozzy, if possible), given the Lakers lack of draft capital over the next few years, whoever we draft with the Houston pick will most likely have to be thrown in there.

b. The Houston pick will probably not see much playing time.

With those in mind, I would draft whoever has the most potential (maybe Giles if he's available, but anyone who's athletic/long) regardless of past production.

[Slava]

I also want to add 2 qualifiers to the Houston pick.

a. If you do choose to move Deng (or Mozzy, if possible), given the Lakers lack of draft capital over the next few years, whoever we draft with the Houston pick will most likely have to be thrown in there.

b. The Houston pick will probably not see much playing time.

With those in mind, I would draft whoever has the most potential (maybe Giles if he's available, but anyone who's athletic/long) regardless of past production.

Diallo is probably your best bet for that kind of move. I'm not sure if Giles will hold up health wise so anyone drafting him would need to think of the first 4 years as the best production from him.

[snaquille oatmeal]

so I've been watching Fullz highlights on you tube and they show that he has great penetration skills especially in the break, he can also spot up shoot; however, that is it, that is all I see. I can't find highlights of him in the half court sets or pick and rolls etc. is it me or does Lonzo, Fox, and Jackson look like they can do more? what am I not seeing?

[XXBKXX]

That was under old leadership though. Magic/Rob/Luke know what to do.

Ball vs Fox 1-1. Best out of 3. Winner gets to become a Laker.

Ugh I hope we don't evaluate players based on their 1-1 skills.

I don't think we're picking Fox (though if he absolutely destroys him in workouts...). But it'll be nice to bring someone in that wiped the floor with Ball on national television, see if he's learned anything since then and maybe get him a little angry and see how he reacts. His link to Fox isn't going anywhere. I think we take Ball almost regardless of what happens, but I also think it's a win-win for LA to put Lonzo up against him in any capacity they can.

This just shows why Lonzo needs a real agent and not let Lavar run things. He should let Lavar run the promotional business side but hire a real agent to take care of the basketball business area. If Lonzo really wants to be a Laker, playing D'aron Fox, in a publicized one on one match is not the way to go. Lonzo has more to lose than fox does. Any half witt agent knows this is a bad move for Lonzo. This is just Lavar's pride with his dad goggles on thinking no one is better than his son.

Fox has next level quickness that would probably kill in a one on one workout. One of Lonzos strengths (passing, making teammates better) isn't visible in a one on one. Lavar is going to mismanage his son out of millions of dollars and it's a shame -- he already did it with the shoe endorsements. If I'm in Lonzos camp, I tell him no work-outs and only do interviews. Don't even pick up the phone until two weeks before the draft. Theres enough footage out there on Lonzo to get him in the top two pick. Only thing he can do right now is hurt his draft spot.

This is all from Lonzos perspective obviously. Now if you're the Lakers, you would love to get Lonzo and Fox workout against each other. It's just hard for me to imagine someone letting this happen from Lonzos side. It's just such a bad decision.





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[Michael Lucky]

so I've been watching Fullz highlights on you tube and they show that he has great penetration skills especially in the break, he can also spot up shoot; however, that is it, that is all I see. I can't find highlights of him in the half court sets or pick and rolls etc. is it me or does Lonzo, Fox, and Jackson look like they can do more? what am I not seeing?

You are watching the wrong YouTube tapes. The pick n rolls are one of his strengths among many. He also prefers shooting off the dribble so again not sure which tapes you are looking at. Besides you don't average 23ppg just on catch and shoots and transitions. You don't get that many opportunities to score that much.

[Slava]

so I've been watching Fullz highlights on you tube and they show that he has great penetration skills especially in the break, he can also spot up shoot; however, that is it, that is all I see. I can't find highlights of him in the half court sets or pick and rolls etc. is it me or does Lonzo, Fox, and Jackson look like they can do more? what am I not seeing?

You are watching the wrong YouTube tapes. The pick n rolls are one of his strengths among many.

He's a lot like D'Angelo Russell with less subtlety and more leaping ability. He actually shot poorer than Russell in college, which is why it makes me laugh when people suggest Russell is a bust and Fultz is the second coming.