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Official Nets Salary Cap Thread 

Post#1 » by Prokorov » Mon May 22, 2017 3:00 pm

UPDATED 6/20/2018 - includeds Dwight Howard Trade.

Here is the updated cap. Some important notes:

*The Salary cap for 2018-2019 has officially been set at 101.9 million. coming in lower then the projected 103 million.

* The Cap holds technically are for 2 roster spots under the minimum of 12 (we are at 10 for the 19-20 season) for the rookie minimum ($889,318).

* Salary/Cap hold for Russell and Hollis-Jefferson for the 19-20 season is their Qulaifying offer. If they are renounced we can gain nearly an additional 30 million in cap space.

*Lin has declined his opt out and his salary for 2018-19 is gaurantted.

*Nik Stauskus was renounced.

*Joe Harris and Ed Davis are rumored to be signed using exceptions and will not be inked until we use our remaining cap space which would be 2.4 Million + whatever we recover from a dwight buyout (likely anywhere from 2 million to 6 million). We will be operating as an over the cap team this season.

Everything else is pretty much set in stone. Below is the most likely scenario for our salary cap for next year.

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CURRENT CAP SPACE: - 8.85 Million (over the cap)
VIRTUAL CAP SPACE*: 2.4m + Amount saved from Howard Buyout
PROJECT CAP SPACE for 2019-2020: 31.3 Million



*** Please Let me know if you see any inaccuracies. this is best effort compiled from several resources and NBA contracts are not very static in nature especially minimum/transition type deals. ***
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Post#2 » by Prokorov » Mon May 22, 2017 3:06 pm

Some other cap math:

** If we trade brook lopez for picks and cap space we would be able to offer 2 max contracts
** As it currently stands we could offer otto porter or KCP the full max in RFA
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Post#3 » by jbeachboy » Mon May 22, 2017 4:05 pm

lets hope we dont offer kcp or otto porter the full max.
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Post#4 » by Paradise » Mon May 22, 2017 4:22 pm

jbeachboy wrote:lets hope we dont offer kcp or otto porter the full max.

Exactly.


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Post#5 » by Prokorov » Mon May 22, 2017 4:24 pm

jbeachboy wrote:lets hope we dont offer kcp or otto porter the full max.


Agreed, just pointing out that space is available without maneuvering.
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Post#6 » by Papi_swav » Mon May 22, 2017 4:25 pm

That's it? i thought we had 40 plus million in cap space. Now I hope we don't max anybody, it's not worth it. Picks and young players is all we need right now, mixed with a couple vets. I like alot of these young guys, I can do without Foye and JHam.
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Post#7 » by Ror1997 » Mon May 22, 2017 4:26 pm

Hold on, its not definite we pick up KJs option.

If you pick up his option, He's a UFA next year. If you let him enter FA this year, he does so as a RFA. Theres a decision to be made there.
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Post#8 » by Prokorov » Mon May 22, 2017 4:28 pm

Also... might be more clear now that you have the visuals on the cap space... but the reason i dont like 15-18 million contracts, even if its fair or good value, is because it eats into your cap to where you cant really add enough talent beyond that.

if we gave say, THJ 15-18 million that would put us at around 8-10M remaining, which is basically the MLE. probably better off overpaying a better player then THJ in that scenario
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Post#9 » by Prokorov » Mon May 22, 2017 4:32 pm

Ror1997 wrote:Hold on, its not definite we pick up KJs option.

If you pick up his option, He's a UFA next year. If you let him enter FA this year, he does so as a RFA. Theres a decision to be made there.


there is a decision, but like i said, either way his cap hold of 6.33M will never come in to play.

If we dont pick up his option, we will be renouncing him. it doesnt make sense to keep his RFA rights when his option is only 3.4 million. only reason to let him hit RFA is if you expect someone to give him less then 3.4 million and then match that. that wouldnt happen for 2 reasons... 1) someone would pay 3-4M for him and 2) you'd be bringing him back on slightly less money which kind of screws him out of cash, and thats the opposite of what marks does... marks has bent over backwards to get those low end guys extra money.

i guess the third option is they could extend him...?
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Post#10 » by Prokorov » Mon May 22, 2017 4:36 pm

Papi_swav wrote:That's it? i thought we had 40 plus million in cap space. Now I hope we don't max anybody, it's not worth it. Picks and young players is all we need right now, mixed with a couple vets. I like alot of these young guys, I can do without Foye and JHam.


We would have 39 million and change in cap room if we:

-Decline KJ option and renoundce him
-renounce foye
-waive Harris, acy, dinwiddie, kilpatrick, and goodwin

We would have 50 million in cap space if we did none of those things but traded lopez without taking back salary

we would have 61 million if we did all those things above and traded lopez or salary

we would have 48 million if we did none of those things and traded booker without taking back salary
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Post#11 » by MrDollarBills » Mon May 22, 2017 5:11 pm

yeah, we really have no business handing out a max contract to anyone.
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Post#12 » by Prokorov » Mon May 22, 2017 5:36 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:yeah, we really have no business handing out a max contract to anyone.


if we can move lopez and/or booker you are looking at 55-60 million. f we do that and 2 all-stars want to take it (Hill/Milsap) thats the only scenario in which id do it.

otherwise id do some combination of either:

1) give Dedmon something like 4/60-80

2) take on salary in order to get more picks

3) sign milos

4) sign vets to 1 year deals with a team option
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Post#13 » by Prokorov » Mon May 22, 2017 6:02 pm

Also to note for the crowd who wasnt happy we took on Nicholson, his contract doesnt really factor in. We can offer a max still and without him we are still well short of a second big contract.
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Post#14 » by MrDollarBills » Mon May 22, 2017 6:25 pm

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Post#15 » by Prokorov » Tue May 23, 2017 10:09 pm

Note: some of those non guaranteed contracts will be come guaranteed in june and july. so we may know relatively soon what they decide with harris, skil, dinwiddie, acy, and goodwin.
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Post#16 » by Prokorov » Tue May 23, 2017 10:12 pm

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Assuming we sign at least 1 free agent... who do you guys cut/waive? I'm already counting foye as gone... that puts us at 17 players if you assume we make all 3 draft picks.

do you waive a non-guaranteed guy or decline McDaniels?

Do you stash one of the picks?

I think its a safe bet we go after 2 or 3 free agents.

we'd all love to trade booker, nicholson, hamilton but not sure how likely those are without anyone coming back our way
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Post#17 » by Vae Victus » Wed May 24, 2017 12:50 am

KJ declined and see what his market value is. Since he's RFA the FO is in the driver's seat on his fate. I doubt he showed enough for some team to be throwing a 3 year 15 mil deal at him, if so, just let him go, otherwise resign for the min or 3 mil. Got plenty of other cheap fringe options and draft picks that need time.

Best option is to trade for bad contracts along with sweeteners using cap space. Ideally make sure the bad deals dont run longer than 2 years, but it really depends on the sweetener.

Maybe find a player or two willing to take high money for a 1 or 2 year deal.
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Post#18 » by jbeachboy » Wed May 24, 2017 12:58 am

Prokorov wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:That's it? i thought we had 40 plus million in cap space. Now I hope we don't max anybody, it's not worth it. Picks and young players is all we need right now, mixed with a couple vets. I like alot of these young guys, I can do without Foye and JHam.


We would have 39 million and change in cap room if we:

-Decline KJ option and renoundce him
-renounce foye
-waive Harris, acy, dinwiddie, kilpatrick, and goodwin

We would have 50 million in cap space if we did none of those things but traded lopez without taking back salary

we would have 61 million if we did all those things above and traded lopez or salary

we would have 48 million if we did none of those things and traded booker without taking back salary




you want to get rid of harris, kj, dinwiddie and goodwin and acy? im fine either way cause this is a last place team but not sure if i want a revolving door type team every year?
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Post#19 » by jbeachboy » Wed May 24, 2017 1:00 am

Prokorov wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:yeah, we really have no business handing out a max contract to anyone.


if we can move lopez and/or booker you are looking at 55-60 million. f we do that and 2 all-stars want to take it (Hill/Milsap) thats the only scenario in which id do it.

otherwise id do some combination of either:

1) give Dedmon something like 4/60-80

2) take on salary in order to get more picks

3) sign milos

4) sign vets to 1 year deals with a team option




give dedmon 15 million a year ? yuck, is that starting or coming off bench, why prok?
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Post#20 » by Prokorov » Wed May 24, 2017 1:11 am

jbeachboy wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:That's it? i thought we had 40 plus million in cap space. Now I hope we don't max anybody, it's not worth it. Picks and young players is all we need right now, mixed with a couple vets. I like alot of these young guys, I can do without Foye and JHam.


We would have 39 million and change in cap room if we:

-Decline KJ option and renoundce him
-renounce foye
-waive Harris, acy, dinwiddie, kilpatrick, and goodwin

We would have 50 million in cap space if we did none of those things but traded lopez without taking back salary

we would have 61 million if we did all those things above and traded lopez or salary

we would have 48 million if we did none of those things and traded booker without taking back salary




you want to get rid of harris, kj, dinwiddie and goodwin and acy? im fine either way cause this is a last place team but not sure if i want a revolving door type team every year?


i dont want to do that.... i was just letting papi swav know that we could get to the 40 million number he thought we had, and how it would be done.

if its me im just letting go of kilpatrick and trying to move any of hamilton, booker, lopez.

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