Hammond to ORL: Confirmed by ownership

[ZeppelinPage]

Everyone is so happy until we find out Kidd has the reigns to draft whoever he wants now.

[Nowak008]

Remember when you guys hated John Hammond for The Tobias Harris deal?

- I remember when Hambone gave a 29 year old coming off a veterans min Drew Gooden a 5 year deal
- I remember giving John Henson and Larry Sanders horrendous extensions
- I remember trading down in the first round 12 spots (and passing on Klay and KL) for the Stephan Jackson's services
- I remember the Corey Maggette experience
- I remember trading for Monte Ellis over Curry
- I remember giving Miles Plumlee a 4 year 52 mil dollar deal
- I remember Joe Alexander
- I remember giving a 1st round pick for Vasquez
- I remember trading down in the 1st round and Livingston for the corpse of Dalembert
- I remember failing to win 50 games in 9 years
- I remember not winning a playoff series in 9 years (I think only the Kings have a longer streak)

[ridetheskies]

Man, Hammond still had another year to clean up his predecessor's mistakes. Not fair.

Let's see if Zanik can operate a phone and a checkbook better than Hammy.

[tski1972]

For what it's worth, I've heard from few degrees separated familial connection that Hammond is going to Orlando as GM.


EDIT: Also heard additional details that really aren't new to us. But that Kidd is a psycho behind the scenes. Power hungry. Apparently tried to send Giannis home the last game of the season for playing poorly or something? Hopefully he doesn't dominate Zanik...

Kudos for the insider info. Love it when the board gets nuggets.

[Ron Swanson]

Doesn't really matter that he won't be around for the draft. I'm guessing the guy we pick at #17 was going to be a "Zanik pick" whether Hammond had stayed or not. The succession plan had been in place since last offseason.

[Howard Mass]

Remember when you guys hated John Hammond for The Tobias Harris deal?

- I remember when Hambone gave a 29 year old coming off a veterans min Drew Gooden a 5 year deal
- I remember giving John Henson and Larry Sanders horrendous extensions
- I remember trading down in the first round 12 spots (and passing on Klay and KL) for the Stephan Jackson's services
- I remember the Corey Maggette experience
- I remember trading for Monte Ellis over Curry
- I remember giving Miles Plumlee a 4 year 52 mil dollar deal
- I remember Joe Alexander
- I remember giving a 1st round pick for Vasquez
- I remember trading down in the 1st round and Livingston for the corpse of Dalembert
- I remember failing to win 50 games in 9 years
- I remember not winning a playoff series in 9 years (I think only the Kings have a longer streak)

i think Weltman will have final says.

[BuckHole]

Remember when you guys hated John Hammond for The Tobias Harris deal?

- I remember when Hambone gave a 29 year old coming off a veterans min Drew Gooden a 5 year deal
- I remember giving John Henson and Larry Sanders horrendous extensions
- I remember trading down in the first round 12 spots (and passing on Klay and KL) for the Stephan Jackson's services
- I remember the Corey Maggette experience
- I remember trading for Monte Ellis over Curry
- I remember giving Miles Plumlee a 4 year 52 mil dollar deal
- I remember Joe Alexander
- I remember giving a 1st round pick for Vasquez
- I remember trading down in the 1st round and Livingston for the corpse of Dalembert
- I remember failing to win 50 games in 9 years
- I remember not winning a playoff series in 9 years (I think only the Kings have a longer streak)

Solid argument.
However, a list of achievements would make for a complete analysis. Am I wrong to want to slide blame to coaches/owners for some of these? I suppose the Bucks stops with the GM.

[emunney]

How crazy would it be if Orlando now hired Kidd?

[Max Green]

Dear John,

[chonestown]

How crazy would it be if Orlando now hired Kidd?

Clean up on Aisle VooDoo.

[nmeurett]

I really wish WSSP would actually do some research before basically crapping on a guy they know nothing about...

[JimmyTheKid]

I hope some reporter asks Hammond about what happened behind the scenes in the SJax trade

What I'd give to know every deal that was nixed by Kohl during Hammond's 9 seasons...

[Badgerlander]

How crazy would it be if Orlando now hired Kidd?

seeing some twitter scuttle that Hammond wanted to fire Kidd

[SkilesTheLimit]

For what it's worth, I've heard from few degrees separated familial connection that Hammond is going to Orlando as GM.


EDIT: Also heard additional details that really aren't new to us. But that Kidd is a psycho behind the scenes. Power hungry. Apparently tried to send Giannis home the last game of the season for playing poorly or something? Hopefully he doesn't dominate Zanik...

Kudos for the insider info. Love it when the board gets nuggets.

Stun to learn that insight.

Several of us hardliners from day 1 about Kidd feared his presence would dominate the organization, and not for the greater good.

He has never left a team on good standing, be it as player or coach. He has shown no understanding of adding talent yet his personality demands he call the shots.

I said from the first day we hired Kidd that until he's gone, this organization will not take the next step because he will be the Herb Kohl of coaches meddling where he has no business.

[Wiscfan92]

I really wish WSSP would actually do some research before basically crapping on a guy they know nothing about...

That's pretty much their business model. Talk aimlessly about a topic they don't know much about but have some former local athletes as hosts to sooth things over. It's a joke.

[freewhitemoon]

How crazy would it be if Orlando now hired Kidd?

seeing some twitter scuttle that Hammond wanted to fire Kidd

instant regret

[JimmyTheKid]

Doesn't really matter that he won't be around for the draft. I'm guessing the guy we pick at #17 was going to be a "Zanik pick" whether Hammond had stayed or not. The succession plan had been in place since last offseason.

Yeah none of this Zanik-replacing-Hammond thing is surprising at all. We all knew it was happening. Its the "Hammond signs 5-year deal to be Orlando's GM" thing that caught me a bit off guard here.

[chonestown]

It was a bad trade but all was forgiven with Giannis.

Um, no Peg.

[nmeurett]

Remember when you guys hated John Hammond for The Tobias Harris deal?

- I remember when Hambone gave a 29 year old coming off a veterans min Drew Gooden a 5 year deal
- I remember giving John Henson and Larry Sanders horrendous extensions
- I remember trading down in the first round 12 spots (and passing on Klay and KL) for the Stephan Jackson's services
- I remember the Corey Maggette experience
- I remember trading for Monte Ellis over Curry
- I remember giving Miles Plumlee a 4 year 52 mil dollar deal
- I remember Joe Alexander
- I remember giving a 1st round pick for Vasquez
- I remember trading down in the 1st round and Livingston for the corpse of Dalembert
- I remember failing to win 50 games in 9 years
- I remember not winning a playoff series in 9 years (I think only the Kings have a longer streak)

Solid argument.
However, a list of achievements would make for a complete analysis. Am I wrong to want to slide blame to coaches/owners for some of these? I suppose the Bucks stops with the GM.

Please send this to Sparky

[Howard Mass]

It was a bad trade but all was forgiven with Giannis.

Um, no Peg.

LOL!

Some hard feelings here for sure.