Trade Post-Mortem 2017: Eight is Enough

[theman]

What's the deal with Bosh, is he eligible to play if he is cleared health wise? Any chance of grabbing him on a 1&1 deal for cheap?

If he is going/can do that he will be signing with the Cavs.

[reload141]

I know I'll get slammed for it, but if Philly did offer #3 and Saric for #1 I'd think about it.

I love Jackson and Saric has immense talent being a big that rebounds and hits the 3, fits our system so well.


There I said it.

[BleedGreen1989]

I think I'd rather sign Danillo Gallinari over Blake Griffin.

There, I said it.

So you would rather sign a guy who has had even more injury issues than Blake Griffin?

Given what I expect their price to be, probably.

[Ed Pinkney]

After listening to some of the most recent Zach Lowe podcast, they were discussing the future of the Spurs and more specifically Aldridge and whether he could be moved. He has some issues and is clearly on the decline, but he could definitely be an option in that Griffin/Milsap type discussion in terms of a second big to pair with Horford.

The problem is the players the Celtics would want to include are unlikely to interest the Spurs at all.

Thoughts?

[Asian Celtic]

After listening to some of the most recent Zach Lowe podcast, they were discussing the future of the Spurs and more specifically Aldridge and whether he could be moved. He has some issues and is clearly on the decline, but he could definitely be an option in that Griffin/Milsap type discussion in terms of a second big to pair with Horford.

The problem is the players the Celtics would want to include are unlikely to interest the Spurs at all.

Thoughts?

I don't want nothing to do with LMA, dude fell off the cliff way faster than i can jerk off. In all seriousness I don't want a glorified Jared Sullinger and his mid range shots. I'd rather have Gasol IMO.

[BRUNiNHO91]

After listening to some of the most recent Zach Lowe podcast, they were discussing the future of the Spurs and more specifically Aldridge and whether he could be moved. He has some issues and is clearly on the decline, but he could definitely be an option in that Griffin/Milsap type discussion in terms of a second big to pair with Horford.

The problem is the players the Celtics would want to include are unlikely to interest the Spurs at all.

Thoughts?

Aldridge and Leonard is a big time combo. They need more though. Kyle Lowry or Chris Paul around those two guys, with the younger dudes they have like Murray and Simmons..they will be a top 3 team in the West again. I can't see a very good trade for both sides. Pop would probably be interested in Bradley..but LMA will be 32 next season..how much would we really offer to get him?

[GoCeltics123]

After listening to some of the most recent Zach Lowe podcast, they were discussing the future of the Spurs and more specifically Aldridge and whether he could be moved. He has some issues and is clearly on the decline, but he could definitely be an option in that Griffin/Milsap type discussion in terms of a second big to pair with Horford.

The problem is the players the Celtics would want to include are unlikely to interest the Spurs at all.

Thoughts?

I don't want nothing to do with LMA, dude fell off the cliff way faster than i can jerk off. In all seriousness I don't want a glorified Jared Sullinger and his mid range shots. I'd rather have Gasol IMO.

Nah, Gasol is a liability at this point in his career

[Asian Celtic]

After listening to some of the most recent Zach Lowe podcast, they were discussing the future of the Spurs and more specifically Aldridge and whether he could be moved. He has some issues and is clearly on the decline, but he could definitely be an option in that Griffin/Milsap type discussion in terms of a second big to pair with Horford.

The problem is the players the Celtics would want to include are unlikely to interest the Spurs at all.

Thoughts?

I don't want nothing to do with LMA, dude fell off the cliff way faster than i can jerk off. In all seriousness I don't want a glorified Jared Sullinger and his mid range shots. I'd rather have Gasol IMO.

Nah, Gasol is a liability at this point in his career

I meant Marc Gasol

[GoCeltics123]

I don't want nothing to do with LMA, dude fell off the cliff way faster than i can jerk off. In all seriousness I don't want a glorified Jared Sullinger and his mid range shots. I'd rather have Gasol IMO.

Nah, Gasol is a liability at this point in his career

I meant Marc Gasol

[Ed Pinkney]

After listening to some of the most recent Zach Lowe podcast, they were discussing the future of the Spurs and more specifically Aldridge and whether he could be moved. He has some issues and is clearly on the decline, but he could definitely be an option in that Griffin/Milsap type discussion in terms of a second big to pair with Horford.

The problem is the players the Celtics would want to include are unlikely to interest the Spurs at all.

Thoughts?

Aldridge and Leonard is a big time combo. They need more though. Kyle Lowry or Chris Paul around those two guys, with the younger dudes they have like Murray and Simmons..they will be a top 3 team in the West again. I can't see a very good trade for both sides. Pop would probably be interested in Bradley..but LMA will be 32 next season..how much would we really offer to get him?

I guess my thoughts were he only has two years left at about $20 million, with the second season being a player option (I think). He is no longer an All Star but he is still good, he is a massive upgrade over Amir and fits with the Thomas/Horford time line pretty well. He can also shoot (which suits Brad's offense) and historically he has been a pretty good rebounder. If he plays well next season, he probably opts out to try and get a new contract and the Celtics could either resign him or let him go elsewhere. If he doesn't play so well he probably opts in but is an UFA the season after.

Thomas/Bradley/Crowder/Aldridge/Horford is pretty solid, especially if you don't have to give up major assets to get him. But as you said, that is where the questions are. How much would the Celtics be willing to give up and how much would the Spurs ask for?

If they are drafting Fultz, one out of the Bradley/Smart/Rozier trio would need to go. Olynyk seems like a possibility, so does someone like Yabusele or Nader. I don't think the Spurs would actually trade him, but there have been rumblings in the background for the last two seasons that perhaps they had a little buyers remorse (which is also a possible red flag for the Celtics).

It is probably unlikely to work cap wise, but if the Celtics were able to sign Hayward and then trade something based around Crowder, Olynyk, Rozier and some non-Nets first rounders, would that be enough? Probably not (I have no idea really) but upgrading Crowder and Amir to two All Star level players while keeping Fultz, Brown and Nets 18 would be pretty enticing.

[Darthlukey]

I know I'll get slammed for it, but if Philly did offer #3 and Saric for #1 I'd think about it.

I love Jackson and Saric has immense talent being a big that rebounds and hits the 3, fits our system so well.


There I said it.

And perhaps a pick 2018 swap between the better of Bkn phi and Lal pick to sweeten the deal (for us of course)

[TheOGJabroni]

What's the deal with Bosh, is he eligible to play if he is cleared health wise? Any chance of grabbing him on a 1&1 deal for cheap?

I was actually wondering about Bosh a few weeks ago. Then I saw your post & then this article:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711417-top-potential-landing-spots-for-chris-bosh-in-2017-nba-free-agency

They list us as the top potential destination for Bosh (Cleveland 2nd). I don't have the slightest clue about what type of contract he'd receive but I do wonder if there was a way to clear up enough salary to sign Hayward & take a flyer on Bosh. Assuming best case scenario, he's healthy and gets us a couple years of production at PF; he'd be a terrific stop gap fit until we hopefully draft a front court player in the 2018 draft.

[Jingles]

Don't get the fascination with helping Philly out. Saric shot 31% from deep this year and can't defend, but sure he can pass a little bit. So people want a worse version of Olynyk as a sweetener to then draft a worse player with a lower pick? Why? Stop listening to Bill Simmons.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Don't get the fascination with helping Philly out. Saric shot 31% from deep this year and can't defend, but sure he can pass a little bit. So people want a worse version of Olynyk as a sweetener to then draft a worse player with a lower pick? Why? Stop listening to Bill Simmons.

Yep. 100% this. Saric is a turnover prone, inefficient volume scorer who doesn't play defense. Josh Jackson struggled to create offense against good athletes in college and will likely have to play the 4 and defend the 3 in the NBA.

I have no idea why some people want to piece out our best asset for quarters and dimes.

[sportscrazy]

Would giving up a superior individual talent to split into 2 players that offer very different skill sets make sense and Coach Stevens could use whichever of those 2 players makes the most sense in each situation during games/playoff series?

If so, does Al Horford for Nikola Vucevic and Bismack Biyombo make sense?

[SmartWentCrazy]

Would giving up a superior individual talent to split into 2 players that offer very different skill sets make sense and Coach Stevens could use whichever of those 2 players makes the most sense in each situation during games/playoff series?

If so, does Al Horford for Nikola Vucevic and Bismack Biyombo make sense?

Quality always over quantity. This team has enough role players, we don't need to break up our fringe all-star into two more.

[greenroom31]

If so, does Al Horford for Nikola Vucevic and Bismack Biyombo make sense?

Congratulations, if there's a worse trade idea out there than this one I haven't seen it.

[ConstableGeneva]

Would giving up a superior individual talent to split into 2 players that offer very different skill sets make sense and Coach Stevens could use whichever of those 2 players makes the most sense in each situation during games/playoff series?

If so, does Al Horford for Nikola Vucevic and Bismack Biyombo make sense?

Celtics need more two-way players. They're not in the business of trading the ones they already have to add more one-dimensional role players on the roster.

In the remote possibility that the Celtics will reset and sell off their high-value vets, young prospects on rookie contracts and high picks are the return they'd expect.

[Smog]

Would giving up a superior individual talent to split into 2 players that offer very different skill sets make sense and Coach Stevens could use whichever of those 2 players makes the most sense in each situation during games/playoff series?

If so, does Al Horford for Nikola Vucevic and Bismack Biyombo make sense?

Quality always over quantity. This team has enough role players, we don't need to break up our fringe all-star into two more.

This. If there's one thing the Cs don't need it's quantity over quality. We have too many interesting assets as is and need desperately to consolidate and make 2-for-1 trades whenever possible. Splitting Fultz into Jackson and Saric makes no sense, unless you think Jackson is better than Fultz. I'd be shocked if the Cs thought so. Fultz looks like the best shot at a transcendent player - we almost have to take him.

[Froob]

After listening to some of the most recent Zach Lowe podcast, they were discussing the future of the Spurs and more specifically Aldridge and whether he could be moved. He has some issues and is clearly on the decline, but he could definitely be an option in that Griffin/Milsap type discussion in terms of a second big to pair with Horford.

The problem is the players the Celtics would want to include are unlikely to interest the Spurs at all.

Thoughts?

May as well add a second and less reliable Al Horford lol. Two can get owned on the boards together.