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Magic Gave Raptors a 2018 Second Round Pick For Weltman

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Re: Magic Gave Raptors a 2018 Second Round Pick For Weltman 

Post#21 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Fri May 26, 2017 1:06 pm

can't wait to see what Atlanta has to give the Warriors for taking their assistant GM
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: Magic Gave Raptors a 2018 Second Round Pick For Weltman 

Post#22 » by Tarheel » Fri May 26, 2017 1:09 pm

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I have never heard of such a thing. Does the CBA even allow this (or maybe that it doesn't explicitly disallow it makes it viable).

Also it seems unenforceable. Both teams could sign a waiver to allow it, and then it would be allowed. But by wanting to trade X for Y, that is the same thing.

This only makes sense if imposed by the league. But there, the CBA gets in the way.

I see no value in this at all: for either team.


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From Orlando Magic Daily:

The acquisition of Weltman also came with another caveat, one that appears to be a little-known league rule.

As part of this deal sending a pick to the Raptors, the league will prohibit the Magic and Raptors from making a trade until the end of the 2018 season. This is ostensibly done to prevent any type of side deals involving players or any lopsided trades to make up for losing an executive or any sweetheart deals between the teams.

The last time this league rule was invoked was when the Boston Celtics “traded” Doc Rivers to the LA Clippers.
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Re: Magic Gave Raptors a 2018 Second Round Pick For Weltman 

Post#23 » by Furinkazan » Fri May 26, 2017 2:43 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:can't wait to see what Atlanta has to give the Warriors for taking their assistant GM


you mean nothing?a handshake?
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Re: Magic Gave Raptors a 2018 Second Round Pick For Weltman 

Post#24 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Fri May 26, 2017 3:06 pm

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MartinsIzAfraud wrote:can't wait to see what Atlanta has to give the Warriors for taking their assistant GM


you mean nothing?a handshake?


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Re: Magic Gave Raptors a 2018 Second Round Pick For Weltman 

Post#25 » by drsd » Fri May 26, 2017 7:48 pm

Tarheel wrote:From Orlando Magic Daily:

The acquisition of Weltman also came with another caveat, one that appears to be a little-known league rule.

As part of this deal sending a pick to the Raptors, the league will prohibit the Magic and Raptors from making a trade until the end of the 2018 season. This is ostensibly done to prevent any type of side deals involving players or any lopsided trades to make up for losing an executive or any sweetheart deals between the teams.

The last time this league rule was invoked was when the Boston Celtics “traded” Doc Rivers to the LA Clippers.



I am also reading this as a league rule.

Example:
The move invoked the NBA provision that Toronto and Orlando are not permitted to trade players with each other until the earlier of May 24, 2018, or the conclusion of the 2017-18 season for either organization, league sources told The Vertical’s Shams Charania.


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Re: Magic Gave Raptors a 2018 Second Round Pick For Weltman 

Post#26 » by npiper17 » Fri May 26, 2017 11:37 pm

drsd wrote:
Tarheel wrote:From Orlando Magic Daily:

The acquisition of Weltman also came with another caveat, one that appears to be a little-known league rule.

As part of this deal sending a pick to the Raptors, the league will prohibit the Magic and Raptors from making a trade until the end of the 2018 season. This is ostensibly done to prevent any type of side deals involving players or any lopsided trades to make up for losing an executive or any sweetheart deals between the teams.

The last time this league rule was invoked was when the Boston Celtics “traded” Doc Rivers to the LA Clippers.



I am also reading this as a league rule.

Example:
The move invoked the NBA provision that Toronto and Orlando are not permitted to trade players with each other until the earlier of May 24, 2018, or the conclusion of the 2017-18 season for either organization, league sources told The Vertical’s Shams Charania.


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Again this seems completely ridiculous. Does the league know that Weltman was not the primary decision maker in Toronto? Do they know he moved to Orlando with a promotion?

So by this standard there can be no trades between the Warriors and Hawks for a year thanks to the Hawks' hiring of Schlenk.

So where do you draw the line? GM? Assistant GM? Equipment Manager? If we'd hired Ujiri then fair enough but I don't see the rationale behind this unless you apply it to any time another team hires an employee of a different team (which happens pretty much all the time!)

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