Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1

[chellis]

nah we need MKG.

I'd do Marvin+11, Plumlee+11, Marco+Sessions+11... idc but I want a starting five of Zeller/MKG/Batum/Bledsoe/Kemba with Bledsoe or Kemba leading that second unit

Could you explain why we NEED MKG? I personally believe he's a decent player but more of a luxury given his offensive production especially In the age of pace and space. We've all clamored about his jump shot, so I won't.

[Kembastockton]

Who says no...

Batum and #11 for DeAngelo Russell and Deng.


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Can't imagine LAL turning this down. Russell's value doesn't necessarily equal 11 and CHA taking on Deng is ~ late teens, early 20's pick.

Meaning LAL is getting Batum for free - or better - which is criminal value.

Yeah! Why would we do that? We trade a lottery pick and a starter, but don't receive an allstar in return?

It seems to me a MKG for Bledsoe swap makes a ton of sense for both teams.

How exactly? Small forward is one of Phoenix's best positions, plus at four they can draft Tatum. We already have a 6'1 shoot first point guard. If anything we would be better trying to get the fourth pick from them. Frank and 11 for 4 and 32? With Frank and 11 they could improve their big man depth. With 4 we can grab the star on the wing that we so desperately need. At 32 we can grab who ever is left between Bam, Semi, and Frank Jackson.

nah we need MKG.

I'd do Marvin+11, Plumlee+11, Marco+Sessions+11... idc but I want a starting five of Zeller/MKG/Batum/Bledsoe/Kemba with Bledsoe or Kemba leading that second unit

Could you explain why we NEED MKG? I personally believe he's a decent player but more of a luxury given his offensive production especially In the age of pace and space. We've all clamored about his jump shot, so I won't.

We don't need MKG. He is a luxury do to his basic skill set and young age. Now is the time to trade him though. This deep draft is the one in which we need to take advantage of his potential to make a home run. How we do that is not clear though. Maybe something like MKG, Frank, 11, and a future pick for Jimmy Butler and 16 (luke kenard or Harry Giles) ? With Boston out of the Butler race (probably all in on Gordon this summer) we have to now be a favorite in the Butler lottery. We can offer multiple good young players plus a lottery pick.

[BobsBuddy]

trade checker #6868336 Both Hornets and Sixers have Team options on Sessions and Covington.
Both exercise the options and add Bellinilli and Henderson and the trade works. Sixers get veteran backup at point and SF.
We get SF and backup defensive minded SG. Win /Win for both teams.

[chellis]

:D trade checker #6868336 Both Hornets and Sixers have Team options on Sessions and Covington.
Both exercise the options and add Bellinilli and Henderson and the trade works. Sixers get veteran backup at point and SF.
We get SF and backup defensive minded SG. Win /Win for both teams.

Yeah, Covington has way more value than what his $1M salary says. Sixers won't trade their 3&D specialist for Sessions and Bells...

[-Ian-]

Magic says Ingram is the only untouchable Laker. Anyone here who would like to explore trading #11 for D'Angelo Russell?

[SWedd523]

Magic says Ingram is the only untouchable Laker. Anyone here who would like to explore trading #11 for D'Angelo Russell?

[pellom]

Magic says Ingram is the only untouchable Laker. Anyone here who would like to explore trading #11 for D'Angelo Russell?

I would do that but I'm more interested in Randle.

[canucklife21]

Twolves fan here. I come in peace


Just wondering what the direction is for the Hornets?

Would a deal of Rubio or dunn with the 7th pick for Kemba walker be a possibility?

If not what are hornets feelings towards Kemba?



P.S congrats on the allstar weekend

[fatlever]

moved to Fake Trade thread.

[chellis]

Twolves fan here. I come in peace


Just wondering what the direction is for the Hornets?

Would a deal of Rubio or dunn with the 7th pick for Kemba walker be a possibility?

If not what are hornets feelings towards Kemba?



P.S congrats on the allstar weekend

What you have essentially asked us is "are you willing to blow up your team?" Kemba is the little engine that could (and does) make this team go. Rubio/Dunn + 7 would not be enough, IMO, to trade Kemba, especially since he's our one shot at an All -Star in 2019. If we are blowing up the team, it depends on what other ancillary moves are being made with players such as Batum, Marvin, Etc. Dunn didn't show much to me his first season. Rubio is what he is. And 7 just depends on who is there between Fox, Isaac, and Monk (for the rest of this board). Honestly, for me, I'd want more value (or you taking multiple bad contracts) since moving Kemba destroys any chances of our team being competitive for the foreseeable future. That's just my two cents.

[CatgutStitches]

Yeah...pretty much that. We are way too close to being a top 4 seed in the East, regardless of last years record, to blow it up right now....and our core is locked up. And we would never trade Kemba unless we were really blowing it up...he's the face and heart of our franchise.

[skywalker33]

11
For
13 and Mudiay

????


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No.
He's been in the league for 2 years and I don't see any progress from him.

You're not wrong but take into consideration that he just turned 21, got zero coaching playing over in China and most young PGs take time to develop under such circumstances. I think Denver just hedges their bet for a year or two with Mudiay

[JDR720]

I wouldnt trade kemba for that package, but if we do need a rebuild Kemba is our best trade piece.

FYI, i dont think we will consider rebuilding before the all-star game 2019.

[JDR720]

I would do the denver trade, the difference in the 11th and 13th pick isnt that big and Mudiay is still a good prospect.

what about #11, Plumlee for Okafor, #36 and Covington.

[HornetJail]

i don't want Okafor anywhere near here. he has all of Al Jefferson's downsides with very few of the upsides

[LofJ]

I think that us, Portland, and Brooklyn are ideal trading partners. The Nets have a ton of cap space and they need quality veteran rotation players. There are also 6 1st round draft choices between the 3 teams.

Hornets trade 11, 41, Plumlee, and Sessions
Hornets receive 22, 27, and Lopez

Nets trade Lopez, Whitehead, 22, and 27
Nets receive Plumlee, Turner, 11, 20, and 41

Blazers trade Turner and 20
Blazers receive Whitehead and Sessions

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6868826

We get the 2nd scorer we need and massively upgrade our bench with Zeller and Lopez splitting time. We also move a deadweight contract and get a 2nd first round pick at the very reasonable cost of moving down.

The Nets get two solid, if overpaid, rotation quality players. They also move up from both of their draft picks and add a 2nd round pick as well.

The Blazers move themselves out of the luxury tax and only give up one of their picks to do so.

[Kembastockton]

Twolves fan here. I come in peace


Just wondering what the direction is for the Hornets?

Would a deal of Rubio or dunn with the 7th pick for Kemba walker be a possibility?

If not what are hornets feelings towards Kemba?



P.S congrats on the allstar weekend

At this point we should never trade Kemba unless he asks to be, and even then we should make every effort to talk him into staying. He needs to retire a Charlotte Hornet.

I think that us, Portland, and Brooklyn are ideal trading partners. The Nets have a ton of cap space and they need quality veteran rotation players. There are also 6 1st round draft choices between the 3 teams.

Hornets trade 11, 41, Plumlee, and Sessions
Hornets receive 22, 27, and Lopez

Nets trade Lopez, Whitehead, 22, and 27
Nets receive Plumlee, Turner, 11, 20, and 41

Blazers trade Turner and 20
Blazers receive Whitehead and Sessions

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6868826

We get the 2nd scorer we need and massively upgrade our bench with Zeller and Lopez splitting time. We also move a deadweight contract and get a 2nd first round pick at the very reasonable cost of moving down.

The Nets get two solid, if overpaid, rotation quality players. They also move up from both of their draft picks and add a 2nd round pick as well.

The Blazers move themselves out of the luxury tax and only give up one of their picks to do so.

Don't like Lopez enough to give up 11 for him. We could possibly get a talent that mirrors his without taking on the 40 mil he is owed the next two years.

[LofJ]

Don't like Lopez enough to give up 11 for him. We could possibly get a talent that mirrors his without taking on the 40 mil he is owed the next two years.

We're getting 22 and 27 for 11 and 41; and Plumlee for Lopez. He has an opt out after this season as well, which barring injury he is certain to take.

And there aren't any similar level offensive talents on the market outside of Carmelo and Kanter. I'd definitely consider moving Marvin for Melo, but I'd much rather trade for Lopez over Kanter.

[yosemiteben]

Not sure Lopez having an opt out after next season is a selling point for the trade, though. Potentially moving down for a rental / potential future cap space.

[Kembastockton]

We're getting 22 and 27 for 11 and 41; and Plumlee for Lopez. He has an opt out after this season as well, which barring injury he is certain to take.

Lopez is an offensive juggernaut, but he takes to many 3's and plays no defense. I would rather take my chances with Collins of Markkanen than to trade 11 for him. 22 and 27 are to low. Our GM does not have a reputation for finding diamonds in the rough. Let's not confuse him. Let him pick an established lottery talent.

And there aren't any similar level offensive talents on the market outside of Carmelo and Kanter. I'd definitely consider moving Marvin for Melo, but I'd much rather trade for Lopez over Kanter.

Don't want Melo at all, and I do not want Lopez at the expense of our lottery pick. I would rather keep the pick. The reason why we cannot come to a consensus on who we want at 11 is not because there is nobody there. It is because there are so many valid choices. And you never know exactly who is available for trade. Players often become available when the right offer is made.