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Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III

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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1061 » by fatlever » Thu May 18, 2017 7:22 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:He needs a damn mean streak. Get nasty, physical. Hell Zeller is the nicest guy in the world and every other game hes getting under opposing centers skin. Really has nothing to do with his offense but I think it could translate on both ends. Be an **** sometimes when you step on the court.


Right! Same reason I made that comment after the Smart tweet a few days ago. I want to MKG have the mentality like he wants to murder your family when he is on the floor. Intimidate, play with anger, confidence, swagger. How many great wing defenders are notoriously nice guys on the floor?
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1062 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Wed May 24, 2017 2:55 am

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19439829/zach-lowe-lebron-james-kyrie-irving-1-3-pick-roll-nba

So great article by Zach Lowe. Really solid read.

Then I started thinking about MKG. Can he really do any of the stuff described in that? I'm having a hard time seeing it.

I still hate to say it, but I think that it's time for MKG to go if the team can get a better fitting player or package for him.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1063 » by LamarMatic7 » Wed May 24, 2017 10:59 am

The key to the duos mentioned is how devastating the SF is. LeBron, Giannis and Durant have size + skill that normal 3s don't have.

While he's not the most efficient player (I enjoyed how Toronto thought in certain situations that him going at Cody is like a good option, while in fact he has the nimble feet to keep up with him), DeRozan posting up smalls is also a threatening option.

MKG is just none of that. Yeah, he might have had his best year as far as taking advantage of smaller guys that are stashed on him is concerned. He can cut by for rebounds or score when Clifford specifically goes to him at the start of 1st and 3rd quarters.

However, I don't think teams would be that scared of him to panic against Charlotte's 1-3 pick-and-roll. Take a look at our division and thus the teams we play most frequently. Elfrid Payton, Dragic, Wall, Schroder. Those guys are physical or tall enough for them not be concerned about the downside of switching.

Kemba pulling up for the 3-pointer is the most dangerous thing about the team's pick-and-rolls. You can't really drop back against him and hope that his man will stick to his hip without consequences.

Yet, you can also just have the 3-man hedge against Kemba (so the point guard can recover before he has turned the corner) and not be too worried about what MKG would do, if let's say you don't want to switch because your 3 is bad at defense and would get roasted by Kemba. He won't pop out for a 3-pointer during that one second and you can probably live with him cutting in the lane if he does so (and if Kemba even hits him with the pass).

So I would venture and say that MKG's shortcomings render this option not that dangerous. That doesn't mean, though, that the team shouldn't stay progressive and try it out. Heck, some rim running/diving skills could benefit MKG's game. I'm just not sure about it in large doses.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1064 » by BlackOutBuzz » Sun May 28, 2017 2:32 am

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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1065 » by yosemiteben » Sun May 28, 2017 3:07 am

A total rebuild?

Anybody know who that is?
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1066 » by Diop » Sun May 28, 2017 3:10 am

he's going to start shooting with his feet.
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Post#1067 » by BlackOutBuzz » Sun May 28, 2017 3:11 am

yosemiteben wrote:A total rebuild?

Anybody know who that is?

Chris Matthews, apparently.

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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1068 » by JDR720 » Sun May 28, 2017 3:15 am

Well hopefully it works this time.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1069 » by SWedd523 » Sun May 28, 2017 3:16 am

Diop wrote:he's going to start shooting with his feet.

Granny shot.

No not just free throws.

Every. Shot. Attempt.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1070 » by JDR720 » Sun May 28, 2017 3:19 am

So this is the 3rd shooting coach?
Should shoot left handed if this doesn't work
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1071 » by fatlever » Sun May 28, 2017 3:36 am

HAHAHA!!! Here we go, the annual MKG hype train has started early. I can't wait for a summer of 10 second clips of MKG making 2 jumpers in a row.
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Post#1072 » by Braggins » Sun May 28, 2017 4:33 am

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I say **** it, tear it down and start over. It couldn't hurt. He literally can't get much worse. Might as well try something big.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1073 » by fatlever » Sun May 28, 2017 4:44 am

"MKG will only be allowed to shoot from 15 feet in year one. In year two, MKG will extend to 20 feet. In year three, MKG will be permitted to shoot 3pt line. We can't rush this. It is a process, but you will see, in 2020, MKG will be shooting 3s. Be patient"
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1074 » by JDR720 » Sun May 28, 2017 4:46 am

Over/under 10 threes next season
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1075 » by -Ian- » Sun May 28, 2017 7:02 am

So MKG is hiring his personal shooting coach? If Kemba's shooting vastly improved with the help of Bruce Kreutzer, why can't MKG fix his shot under own Shot Doctor?
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1076 » by arthy704 » Sun May 28, 2017 9:21 am

I see in the picture he is using his thumb on his guide hand to shoot with his right. From experience this is a good to bomb long distance but must make sure his left thumb don't mess up the ball from going straight. I rather have him focus more on shooting with his index finger only for guaranteed straight line shot. I still want to see how he is being taught to how to use his body to go into a 1 fluid motion release shot from the feet, no hitch no delay at the peak of the release.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1077 » by LofJ » Sun May 28, 2017 1:56 pm

He doesn't need another shooting coach, he needs to see a sports psychologist. A revamped jumpshot won't mean anything if he's afraid to put it to use when it matters.
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Post#1078 » by yosemiteben » Sun May 28, 2017 1:57 pm

-Ian- wrote:So MKG is hiring his personal shooting coach? If Kemba's shooting vastly improved with the help of Bruce Kreutzer, why can't MKG fix his shot under own Shot Doctor?

This was my question. Next exactly a great endorsement of Kreutzer, who I assume is pretty much only on staff to help fix our guys' shooting technique.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1079 » by yosemiteben » Sun May 28, 2017 3:00 pm

Looks like he spent a decent chunk of last season working with Dwight.

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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1080 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun May 28, 2017 3:42 pm

I dont even find this as a good thing to be honest.
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