2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV

Unbreakable99 · Post #41 » by **Unbreakable99** » Sun May 28, 2017 12:32 am

Colangelo really needs to find a way to get back into the top 10. I really wanted that Lakers pick this year. BC needs to trade all 4 seconds if necessary to get back to 10. I want two players in the top ten.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #42 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Sun May 28, 2017 12:46 am

I don't think that's a good idea. This draft class is overrated and the last thing I want to do is take another player who isn't an ideal fit. I think the Sixers caught a major break in that Lakers pick being next year. Just not a lot of superstar caliber prospects this year, and not a lot of prospects who fit the Sixers all that well.

If anything I think they should be trying to deal the pick they do have for a player who does fit. Either up for Fultz, to the Knicks for Porzingis, or for an established star.

Unbreakable99 · Post #43 » by **Unbreakable99** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:23 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:I don't think that's a good idea. This draft class is overrated and the last thing I want to do is take another player who isn't an ideal fit. I think the Sixers caught a major break in that Lakers pick being next year. Just not a lot of superstar caliber prospects this year, and not a lot of prospects who fit the Sixers all that well.

If anything I think they should be trying to deal the pick they do have for a player who does fit. Either up for Fultz, to the Knicks for Porzingis, or for an established star.

While I love KP and think he woukd be a perfect fit it would take A LOT to get him. We are talking about giving up both the LA and Sacramento pick and our 3rd pick and maybe Saric. But the big thing for me is that I'm not sure KP would love it here. He wouldn't be the first option. He does have an ego like all good players. I just think he might get jealous Embiid would get more touches then you have to worry about Simmons running the offense. KP might want to leave once he becomes a FA.

ivysixer2000 · Post #44 » by **ivysixer2000** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:27 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:Colangelo really needs to find a way to get back into the top 10. I really wanted that Lakers pick this year. BC needs to trade all 4 seconds if necessary to get back to 10. I want two players in the top ten.

I also really wanted the Laker pick this year, but I also see that having it next year can give us more of a chance of evaluating the team playing together to know what we need.

As for trading up in this draft with our 2nds, yeah I would do that. We will probably take a guy or two overseas with them anyway if kept, but how far up we could go is questionable. In order to trade, you have to have a trading partner.

Mik317 · Post #45 » by **Mik317** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:33 am

I think this draft is great in terms of good players. Maybe not deep with great surefire stars but a lot of longtime NBA players should come from this draft. Pretty deep in role players too

SelfishPlayer · Post #46 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:33 am

Simmons and the #3 will be enough rookies. Anything more than two rookies on a young team will be a negative. The addition of a true vet will be better for everyone long term.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #47 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:33 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:I don't think that's a good idea. This draft class is overrated and the last thing I want to do is take another player who isn't an ideal fit. I think the Sixers caught a major break in that Lakers pick being next year. Just not a lot of superstar caliber prospects this year, and not a lot of prospects who fit the Sixers all that well.

If anything I think they should be trying to deal the pick they do have for a player who does fit. Either up for Fultz, to the Knicks for Porzingis, or for an established star.

While I love KP and think he woukd be a perfect fit it would take A LOT to get him. We are talking about giving up both the LA and Sacramento pick and our 3rd pick and maybe Saric. But the big thing for me is that I'm not sure KP would love it here. He wouldn't be the first option. He does have an ego like all good players. I just think he might get jealous Embiid would get more touches then you have to worry about Simmons running the offense. KP might want to leave once he becomes a FA.

I think it'll take a lot too, but we don't know for sure if it would cost that much. It's mere speculation.

I think if we win, Porzingis would love it here. Winning solves everything. Plus he'd be a RFA so he'd have no choice in if he leaves.

tsmith · Post #48 » by **tsmith** » Sun May 28, 2017 5:31 am

Would not mind trading 3+Okafor for 5 and 10, draft smith and mitchell and you've got a backcourt.

Sportfan73 · Post #49 » by **Sportfan73** » Sun May 28, 2017 6:55 am

t_smith979 wrote:Would not mind trading 3+Okafor for 5 and 10, draft smith and mitchell and you've got a backcourt.

If we can still get smith at 5 I am all in for that deal

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freshie2 · Post #50 » by **freshie2** » Sun May 28, 2017 12:18 pm

If your only interest is a Smith level player at 5, you will have many options. One of Smith, Fox, Tatum, Jackson will be available and are all pretty much in the same range...Isaac may even be considered in that range depending on one's assessment from his workouts and some may elevate Monk into the group as well.

If Jackson shows growth/consistency with his shot, then he's probably the pick but I really think there is more legitimate uncertainty in this draft than prior years.

shawn_hemp · Post #51 » by **shawn_hemp** » Sun May 28, 2017 12:41 pm

Because workout vids are indicative of NBA success 100% of the time (110% if the player is shirtless), here's Jayson Tatum hitting 20 NBA 3s in a row

Watch on YouTube

sixerswillrule · Post #52 » by **sixerswillrule** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:10 pm

People have compared Isaac to Rashard Lewis but I think that's a better comparison for Tatum. Lewis played SF in his prime with Seattle and did well enough to earn that crazy contract with Orlando. Big time shooter/scorer back when scoring increased league-wide in 05-07.

Watch on YouTube

cksdayoff · Post #53 » by **cksdayoff** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:21 pm

I hated rashad Lewis. I
I thought He was trash for the magic

Kobblehead · Post #54 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:01 pm

LloydFree wrote:I've been waiting to see your top 30. The early entry deadline passed this past week, so all of the eligible guys are set.

I'd also like to see some other's, especially Philly finest, HanktheTank, unbreakable and oldschool's big boards or mocks.

I'll probably put together a master list in the coming weeks. It will be moreso just guys I want instead of a traditional ranking of all the prospects.

Kobblehead · Post #55 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:06 pm

shawn_hemp wrote:Because workout vids are indicative of NBA success 100% of the time (110% if the player is shirtless), here's Jayson Tatum hitting 20 NBA 3s in a row

Watch on YouTube

I'd be more sold if I saw footage of him finishing at the rim while fighting through the contact of being whacked with a foam pool noodle.

Negrodamus · Post #56 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:19 pm

I'm standing by what I said a few weeks ago:

We're probably going to leave this draft with De'Aaron Fox, for better or worse. I think he fits the size, uptempo defensive point guard that Brown likes and I bet they feel like they can fix his shot. Especially since it started to look really good at the end of the season. Now if he could get over 200lbs, we'd be in business.

Ericb5 · Post #57 » by **Ericb5** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:36 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I'm standing by what I said a few weeks ago:

We're probably going to leave this draft with De'Aaron Fox, for better or worse. I think he fits the size, uptempo defensive point guard that Brown likes and I bet they feel like they can fix his shot. Especially since it started to look really good at the end of the season. Now if he could get over 200lbs, we'd be in business.

I admit that Fox is growing on me. Not sure I see the fit, but the talent is undeniable.

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LloydFree · Post #58 » by **LloydFree** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:39 pm

I'm going to try to watch as many positive Jason Tatum videos as possible over the next month. I'm going to try to get my mind right for IF the 76ers call his name. He's one of two players I can see the 76ers working out and picking over Josh Jackson. At the #3 pick, I really don't see the upside in Tatum, but he should be a good NBA starter in a few years.

The other prospect I can see the 76ers selecting is Dennis Smith. Dennis Smith would be a slight disappointment, because Jackson is a better prospect, but I could see the 'fit' argument. So while I think it would be a missed opportunity, I'd still be intrigued by the potential.

Negrodamus · Post #59 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:41 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I'm standing by what I said a few weeks ago:

We're probably going to leave this draft with De'Aaron Fox, for better or worse. I think he fits the size, uptempo defensive point guard that Brown likes and I bet they feel like they can fix his shot. Especially since it started to look really good at the end of the season. Now if he could get over 200lbs, we'd be in business.

I admit that Fox is growing on me. Not sure I see the fit, but the talent is undeniable.

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I say fit purely from a PG or SG standpoint. Secondary ball handler with the ability to be primary. If he can be a knockdown shooter off the ball remains to be seen.

76thBearCub · Post #60 » by **76thBearCub** » Sun May 28, 2017 3:03 pm

How sweet would that be if we took Fox and he ends up better then Fultz and Ball.