Snapbacks and Handshakes: The 2017 Draft (Raps pick #23)

[HeadtopChunes]

Not even that big of a semi or leaf fan but I could understand the pick and be fine with them.

But would be very upset if we chose Rabb

Yeah Rabb has become more and more underwhelming over time. Rather stay away from him.

[Dalek]

Came across a very unique prospect and story in Jake Wiley. The guy bounced around in different schools even falling below D-1, had his alcoholic father die and his mother also passed from a stroke while he was in college. Turned his life around, became on the NBA radar and is now married with a kid.

Incredible story and he is a sensational athlete:

There are hundreds of players eligible to be drafted into the NBA this June, but it's likely no one in that pool of prospects has a more warped path, a more fascinating story than Jake Wiley. The 6-foot-6 power wing played last season at Eastern Washington, where he turned up out of seemingly nowhere, turned a corner mid-season to become the Big Sky Player of the Year.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/a-path-of-life-and-death-jake-wiley-quit-then-conquered-now-aims-for-nba-draft/

His highlight reel reminds me of Aaron Gordon. He is going to 23 later this year, but I am really hoping this guy makes it.

Watch on YouTube

[Clementine64]

Anyone else think OG has a good chance to be a hell of a player? We'd likely have to trade up to get him, but I like his potential as a versatile defender with 3pt ability. Pair him up with Ibaka and we'd have a very mobile and athletic front court that fits the 3 ball era.



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[Veggamattic]

Here are some basic reference cards by position...

[vanhill]

Anyone follows Harry Giles?he supposed to be the best high school player, could he be a steal ?
If he plays like thon maker or Skal...that's pretty good at 23

[Clementine64]

As of rn my board is
1. Bolden
2. Ojeleye
3. Giles
4. T Ferguson
5. DJ Wilson/ Iwundu/Thornwell

Iwundu vs Thornwell is a tough one for me.

Man the draft can't come soon enough.

I see Bolden is mocked to go around pick 47, what gives? I know he's a tad older and went from UCLA to play in the Euroleague but still. It looks like this dude can really play. What am I missing here, why is he ranked so low?

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[HeadtopChunes]

As of rn my board is
1. Bolden
2. Ojeleye
3. Giles
4. T Ferguson
5. DJ Wilson/ Iwundu/Thornwell

Iwundu vs Thornwell is a tough one for me.

Man the draft can't come soon enough.

I see Bolden is mocked to go around pick 47, what gives? I know he's a tad older and went from UCLA to play in the Euroleague but still. It looks like this dude can really play. What am I missing here, why is he ranked so low?

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DX did the same thing to thon maker. That's why i wouldn't give too much concern over mocks. I think it's just hard to scout in Serbia. DX doesn't have the resources to go there and film isn't readily available. Based on what I've seen is be genuinely surprised if he didn't go first round.

[Clementine64]

As of rn my board is
1. Bolden
2. Ojeleye
3. Giles
4. T Ferguson
5. DJ Wilson/ Iwundu/Thornwell

Iwundu vs Thornwell is a tough one for me.

Man the draft can't come soon enough.

I see Bolden is mocked to go around pick 47, what gives? I know he's a tad older and went from UCLA to play in the Euroleague but still. It looks like this dude can really play. What am I missing here, why is he ranked so low?

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DX did the same thing to thon maker. That's why i wouldn't give too much concern over mocks. I think it's just hard to scout in Serbia. DX doesn't have the resources to go there and film isn't readily available. Based on what I've seen is be genuinely surprised if he didn't go first round.

Yeah you're right about Maker. I honestly think if the Bucks hadn't taken him where they did he'd of gone late first round. The age concerns were very real and frightening.

Would it be crazy to think Bolden is a top 15 talent in the draft? He has everything you want in a modern day NBA 4. I'd definitely take him at 23 from what I've seen so far. Seems to have a good head on his shoulders and is a student of the game from the interviews I've heard.

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[Anatomize]

As of rn my board is
1. Bolden
2. Ojeleye
3. Giles
4. T Ferguson
5. DJ Wilson/ Iwundu/Thornwell

Iwundu vs Thornwell is a tough one for me.

Man the draft can't come soon enough.

I see Bolden is mocked to go around pick 47, what gives? I know he's a tad older and went from UCLA to play in the Euroleague but still. It looks like this dude can really play. What am I missing here, why is he ranked so low?

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DX did the same thing to thon maker. That's why i wouldn't give too much concern over mocks. I think it's just hard to scout in Serbia. DX doesn't have the resources to go there and film isn't readily available. Based on what I've seen is be genuinely surprised if he didn't go first round.

Maker was the biggest surprise to me. I was absolutely inlove with him in his HS highlights and told friends he looked like the next KG.. some question marks get raised about his age and people suddenly slate him to go 2nd round. I think Milwaukee made the right move drafting him as early as they did at 10, he could be the steal of the draft.

[ill-Will03]

Whats Peter Joks Potential? I know this team needs to be surrounded by 3pt specialists with DD being a ball handler....

I know hes not mocked but i really like this guy....hope we get a 2nd to pick him up

I'm having a hard time understanding why he's not even mocked as a 2nd rounder on most sites.

Per 40: 26pts, 7rbs, 3.5ast, 7fta
Shooting: 38% from 3, 91% from the line, 58% TS

I see something in between Anthony Morrow and Khris Middleton. Not just a shooter, also possesses the ability to create for others as a pick and roll ball handler.

Lots of good passing here:

Watch on YouTube

Damn if Casey and Masai are serious about this new 3-ball offense then we absolutely have to buy a 2nd rounder to pick him. OR best case he goes undrafted and he make sure our team through training camp. This is the type of players we need.
No idea why he's not mocked tho...

[LonZoBallin]

I will condition this board to want Dennis smith JR. MU will feel i in his veins and pull the trigger

btw I wouldn't mind Frank either. I think he's a great first year tank piece

[Veggamattic]

Whats Peter Joks Potential? I know this team needs to be surrounded by 3pt specialists with DD being a ball handler....

I know hes not mocked but i really like this guy....hope we get a 2nd to pick him up

I'm having a hard time understanding why he's not even mocked as a 2nd rounder on most sites.

Per 40: 26pts, 7rbs, 3.5ast, 7fta
Shooting: 38% from 3, 91% from the line, 58% TS

I see something in between Anthony Morrow and Khris Middleton. Not just a shooter, also possesses the ability to create for others as a pick and roll ball handler.

Lots of good passing here:

Watch on YouTube

Damn if Casey and Masai are serious about this new 3-ball offense then we absolutely have to buy a 2nd rounder to pick him. OR best case he goes undrafted and he make sure our team through training camp. This is the type of players we need.
No idea why he's not mocked tho...

Jok is 23...that is likely why.

[Veggamattic]

I see Bolden is mocked to go around pick 47, what gives? I know he's a tad older and went from UCLA to play in the Euroleague but still. It looks like this dude can really play. What am I missing here, why is he ranked so low?

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DX did the same thing to thon maker. That's why i wouldn't give too much concern over mocks. I think it's just hard to scout in Serbia. DX doesn't have the resources to go there and film isn't readily available. Based on what I've seen is be genuinely surprised if he didn't go first round.

Yeah you're right about Maker. I honestly think if the Bucks hadn't taken him where they did he'd of gone late first round. The age concerns were very real and frightening.

Would it be crazy to think Bolden is a top 15 talent in the draft? He has everything you want in a modern day NBA 4. I'd definitely take him at 23 from what I've seen so far. Seems to have a good head on his shoulders and is a student of the game from the interviews I've heard.


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Bolden moved up the board 10 or 12 places in the last 10 days

[Veggamattic]

Anyone follows Harry Giles?he supposed to be the best high school player, could he be a steal ?
If he plays like thon maker or Skal...that's pretty good at 23

Giles is a huge injury risk. He had 4 separate ligament tears to his knee.

[yt_boi]

I will condition this board to want Dennis smith JR. MU will feel i in his veins and pull the trigger

btw I wouldn't mind Frank either. I think he's a great first year tank piece

Lol i think everyone here would be jumping for joy if they were there at 23...but they wont so what's the point of ur post?

My list currently

Bolden
Semi
Dj
Hart (actually a brogdan clone..a real 3 + D player with so many intangibles who needs to be discussed here more)

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Josh-Hart-7149/

Big east player of the year and defensive player of the year..hits 2 3s a game on 40%

[LonZoBallin]

I will condition this board to want Dennis smith JR. MU will feel i in his veins and pull the trigger

btw I wouldn't mind Frank either. I think he's a great first year tank piece

Lol i think everyone here would be jumping for joy if they were there at 23...but they wont so what's the point of ur post?

My list currently

Bolden
Semi
Dj
Hart (actually a brogdan clone..a real 3 + D player with so many intangibles who needs to be discussed here more)

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Josh-Hart-7149/

Big east player of the year and defensive player of the year..hits 2 3s a game on 40%

Do whatever it takes to trade up and get him! I'm telling you he will be better than every player that is currently on our team within 3 years. Derozan will decline once he starts losing his athletic ability. I'm sorry he will and his game will fall off big time because of it. Everyone gets less free throw attempts as they get older, won't be able to beat his man off the dribble. Once this happens DD will be a very flawed player. Lowry is already declining and Ibaka has been declining for years.

[Yeezus_]

I will condition this board to want Dennis smith JR. MU will feel i in his veins and pull the trigger

btw I wouldn't mind Frank either. I think he's a great first year tank piece

Lol i think everyone here would be jumping for joy if they were there at 23...but they wont so what's the point of ur post?

My list currently

Bolden
Semi
Dj
Hart (actually a brogdan clone..a real 3 + D player with so many intangibles who needs to be discussed here more)

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Josh-Hart-7149/

Big east player of the year and defensive player of the year..hits 2 3s a game on 40%

Do whatever it takes to trade up and get him! I'm telling you he will be better than every player that is currently on our team within 3 years. Derozan will decline once he starts losing his athletic ability. I'm sorry he will and his game will fall off big time because of it. Everyone gets less free throw attempts as they get older, won't be able to beat his man off the dribble. Once this happens DD will be a very flawed player. Lowry is already declining and Ibaka has been declining for years.

"Lowry is already declining"

>puts up the best season of his career in 2016-2017

[Mikistan]

Lol i think everyone here would be jumping for joy if they were there at 23...but they wont so what's the point of ur post?

My list currently

Bolden
Semi
Dj
Hart (actually a brogdan clone..a real 3 + D player with so many intangibles who needs to be discussed here more)

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Josh-Hart-7149/

Big east player of the year and defensive player of the year..hits 2 3s a game on 40%

Do whatever it takes to trade up and get him! I'm telling you he will be better than every player that is currently on our team within 3 years. Derozan will decline once he starts losing his athletic ability. I'm sorry he will and his game will fall off big time because of it. Everyone gets less free throw attempts as they get older, won't be able to beat his man off the dribble. Once this happens DD will be a very flawed player. Lowry is already declining and Ibaka has been declining for years.

"Lowry is already declining"

>puts up the best season of his career in 2016-2017

Best season playing only 60 games and miss playoff games yaaaaa

[Kevin Willis]

Anyone else think OG has a good chance to be a hell of a player? We'd likely have to trade up to get him, but I like his potential as a versatile defender with 3pt ability. Pair him up with Ibaka and we'd have a very mobile and athletic front court that fits the 3 ball era.



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OG's skill level is below average. Watch his games the last two years and you can see he lacks skill and BBIQ. He's physically talented but he was reported to have otherwordly wingspan but at the combine it was still long but not otherwordly. That reduced his appeal more. There are better options but I think some team will take him before us so we don't have to worry.

[YoungD23]

Whats Peter Joks Potential? I know this team needs to be surrounded by 3pt specialists with DD being a ball handler....

I know hes not mocked but i really like this guy....hope we get a 2nd to pick him up

I'm having a hard time understanding why he's not even mocked as a 2nd rounder on most sites.

Per 40: 26pts, 7rbs, 3.5ast, 7fta
Shooting: 38% from 3, 91% from the line, 58% TS

I see something in between Anthony Morrow and Khris Middleton. Not just a shooter, also possesses the ability to create for others as a pick and roll ball handler.

Lots of good passing here:

Watch on YouTube

Damn if Casey and Masai are serious about this new 3-ball offense then we absolutely have to buy a 2nd rounder to pick him. OR best case he goes undrafted and he make sure our team through training camp. This is the type of players we need.
No idea why he's not mocked tho...

I wouldn't my breath on it..our scouting staff is a**