Hayward Undecided

[reggielewis]

I know it is completely unlikely but why are we not also talking about Klay Thompson? How can GS afford to resign all 3 (KD, Curry & Klay) to max deals? Plus having Draymond already at a decent amount. I am guessing Klay would be 3rd on that chart-no? I would love him too, can play 2/3 and would be awesome stretching the floor.

[tombattor]

I know it is completely unlikely but why are we not also talking about Klay Thompson? How can GS afford to resign all 3 (KD, Curry & Klay) to max deals? Plus having Draymond already at a decent amount. I am guessing Klay would be 3rd on that chart-no? I would love him too, can play 2/3 and would be awesome stretching the floor.

I didn't think he was available... but if he is, he might be a better fit than Hayward. Plays great D too.

[Gant]

Gordon Hayward — The way the Celtics so closely guarded their salary cap flexibility and the chance to clear space for a major free agent would lead one to believe they’ve had at least some indication that the 6-8 All-Star would be willing to opt out of his Utah deal and at least listen to their pitch.

Hayward bought a home near San Diego more than a year and a half ago, so maybe he stays with Utah or looks to play even further west. But he could also come to the Celts for three years with an out, play for his former Butler coach — knowing coach Brad Stevens understands his game and will keep his value high — and then be eligible to sign for the 10-year veteran’s maximum in 2020.

Hayward’s not just one of the best players on the free agent market, but his outside shooting and overall offensive package would benefit the Celts and Thomas greatly.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2017/05/bulpett_closer_look_at_possible_changes_to_celtics_roster_for_2017_18

[SmartWentCrazy]

Gordon Hayward — The way the Celtics so closely guarded their salary cap flexibility and the chance to clear space for a major free agent would lead one to believe they’ve had at least some indication that the 6-8 All-Star would be willing to opt out of his Utah deal and at least listen to their pitch.

Hayward bought a home near San Diego more than a year and a half ago, so maybe he stays with Utah or looks to play even further west. But he could also come to the Celts for three years with an out, play for his former Butler coach — knowing coach Brad Stevens understands his game and will keep his value high — and then be eligible to sign for the 10-year veteran’s maximum in 2020.

Hayward’s not just one of the best players on the free agent market, but his outside shooting and overall offensive package would benefit the Celts and Thomas greatly.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2017/05/bulpett_closer_look_at_possible_changes_to_celtics_roster_for_2017_18

The Celtics absolutely have a strong indication of interest from some max FA. Agents and players talk and I'm sure the FO knows what we're dealing with. Hell, even ITs extension comments could've been an indication.

[165bows]

Gordon Hayward — The way the Celtics so closely guarded their salary cap flexibility and the chance to clear space for a major free agent would lead one to believe they’ve had at least some indication that the 6-8 All-Star would be willing to opt out of his Utah deal and at least listen to their pitch.

Hayward bought a home near San Diego more than a year and a half ago, so maybe he stays with Utah or looks to play even further west. But he could also come to the Celts for three years with an out, play for his former Butler coach — knowing coach Brad Stevens understands his game and will keep his value high — and then be eligible to sign for the 10-year veteran’s maximum in 2020.

Hayward’s not just one of the best players on the free agent market, but his outside shooting and overall offensive package would benefit the Celts and Thomas greatly.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2017/05/bulpett_closer_look_at_possible_changes_to_celtics_roster_for_2017_18

Wow great preview.

Paul George falls into the KG tier of great players worth a trade haul that need to be convinced to stay here. Butler is not getting a major trade haul. And Hayward doesn't even live in Utah, but in San Diego. Who knew??!

Also good tidbit that Yabs was taken at 16 and "certainly" has not diminished in value. Plus Fultz is pretty much confirmed as the pick. Sounds like good news.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I know it is completely unlikely but why are we not also talking about Klay Thompson? How can GS afford to resign all 3 (KD, Curry & Klay) to max deals? Plus having Draymond already at a decent amount. I am guessing Klay would be 3rd on that chart-no? I would love him too, can play 2/3 and would be awesome stretching the floor.

I didn't think he was available... but if he is, he might be a better fit than Hayward. Plays great D too.

Cave has already come out and said that Iguodala and Durant were going to sign for less so that the team could retain Klay. I don't think he's going anywhere.

[Celts17Pride]

We will find out in a few months but I always thought Celtics interest in Hayward is a diversion. I always thought Blake Griffin is the real target. My 2 cents

[Fencer reregistered]

We will find out in a few months but I always thought Celtics interest in Hayward is a diversion. I always thought Blake Griffin is the real target. My 2 cents

Unless the Cs have a chance to sign both (and in fact only sign one), there's a good chance we'll never know.

[CelticsLV]

We will find out in a few months but I always thought Celtics interest in Hayward is a diversion. I always thought Blake Griffin is the real target. My 2 cents

Agree. It just makes so much more sense to add Griffin instead of Hayward, especially if we intend to keep Fultz. Griffin has already been linked to Celtics and Ainge during trade deadlines. Not saying that Ainge will not try to get Hayward but i think Griffin will be his primary target.

Ainge already told that we need a skilled big, who can rebound and shoot. I believe it was also recently mentioned on CSSNE that Celtics are focused on landing all-star big.

Griffin anyone?

[AingesBurner]

Gordon Hayward — The way the Celtics so closely guarded their salary cap flexibility and the chance to clear space for a major free agent would lead one to believe they’ve had at least some indication that the 6-8 All-Star would be willing to opt out of his Utah deal and at least listen to their pitch.

Hayward bought a home near San Diego more than a year and a half ago, so maybe he stays with Utah or looks to play even further west. But he could also come to the Celts for three years with an out, play for his former Butler coach — knowing coach Brad Stevens understands his game and will keep his value high — and then be eligible to sign for the 10-year veteran’s maximum in 2020.

Hayward’s not just one of the best players on the free agent market, but his outside shooting and overall offensive package would benefit the Celts and Thomas greatly.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2017/05/bulpett_closer_look_at_possible_changes_to_celtics_roster_for_2017_18

Wow great preview.

Paul George falls into the KG tier of great players worth a trade haul that need to be convinced to stay here. Butler is not getting a major trade haul. And Hayward doesn't even live in Utah, but in San Diego. Who knew??!

Also good tidbit that Yabs was taken at 16 and "certainly" has not diminished in value. Plus Fultz is pretty much confirmed as the pick. Sounds like good news.

He has a house in Utah and San Diego, most wealthy and affluent Utahans have homes like this they can visit in summer or winter.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2017/05/bulpett_closer_look_at_possible_changes_to_celtics_roster_for_2017_18

Wow great preview.

Paul George falls into the KG tier of great players worth a trade haul that need to be convinced to stay here. Butler is not getting a major trade haul. And Hayward doesn't even live in Utah, but in San Diego. Who knew??!

Also good tidbit that Yabs was taken at 16 and "certainly" has not diminished in value. Plus Fultz is pretty much confirmed as the pick. Sounds like good news.

He has a house in Utah and San Diego, most wealthy and affluent Utahans have homes like this they can visit in summer or winter.

So there's a large group of Utahans in San Diego??

FWIW, I'm guessing there are a large group of NBA players who own more than 1 house.

[SmartWentCrazy]

The amount that Utah fans feel the need to post in here on Hayward makes me feel pretty good about our chances

[ParticleMan]

We will find out in a few months but I always thought Celtics interest in Hayward is a diversion. I always thought Blake Griffin is the real target. My 2 cents

Agree. It just makes so much more sense to add Griffin instead of Hayward, especially if we intend to keep Fultz. Griffin has already been linked to Celtics and Ainge during trade deadlines. Not saying that Ainge will not try to get Hayward but i think Griffin will be his primary target.

Ainge already told that we need a skilled big, who can rebound and shoot. I believe it was also recently mentioned on CSSNE that Celtics are focused on landing all-star big.

Griffin anyone?

Blake is clearly a better fit and bigger need. but those injuries... and age... i was on the blake train until the latest injury, dude just can't stay healthy.

[Smitty731]

I want to be pretty clear on this, since every time I see the thread title it reminds me:

Hayward is opting out. 100%. There is almost no reason he would opt in, unless he and the Jazz have some sort pre-arranged deal worked out.

What is undecided is how serious he is about leaving Utah. Many are reporting that he's more serious about it than he has been at any point previously. Others have that he's likely stay.

What I have been told is that Utah is still the favorite, but he's going to listen to others. And of those others, Boston is at the top of the list. I'm just not sure they are actually ahead of Utah.

[AKFO]

Are sign and trades still a thing? I think a sign-and-trade could be a good possibility to get Hayward the max if he informs the Jazz he's leaving. Might as well clear some roster-crunch before teams know we have to make a trade.

Something like Rozier and Crowder for Hayward and Lyles

[Smitty731]

Are sign and trades still a thing? I think a sign-and-trade could be a good possibility to get Hayward the max if he informs the Jazz he's leaving. Might as well clear some roster-crunch before teams know we have to make a trade.

Something like Rozier and Crowder for Hayward and Lyles

S&Ts can still happen, but there is no real benefit anymore for the player. Players can now only make as much in a S&T as they could if they signed with a team outright. In addition, the acquiring team becomes hard capped. So, while they are still a thing, they have largely fallen out of use over the past few years.

[AKFO]

Are sign and trades still a thing? I think a sign-and-trade could be a good possibility to get Hayward the max if he informs the Jazz he's leaving. Might as well clear some roster-crunch before teams know we have to make a trade.

Something like Rozier and Crowder for Hayward and Lyles

S&Ts can still happen, but there is no real benefit anymore for the player. Players can now only make as much in a S&T as they could if they signed with a team outright. In addition, the acquiring team becomes hard capped. So, while they are still a thing, they have largely fallen out of use over the past few years.

Thanks for clarifying!

[Gomes3PC]

Celtics will have a compelling offer to give Hayward with a 3+1 player option. With that, Hayward could opt out and get a supermax after three years, recouping any lost money he would give up to sign anywhere but Utah.

The question will be less about $ I think and more where Hayward thinks he can win a title. Both teams have very bright futures, so it'll be interesting to see where he goes. I still think he stays - guys switching teams in this position rarely move - but Ainge will get a real shot to pitch the Celtics.

[165bows]

I want to be pretty clear on this, since every time I see the thread title it reminds me:

Hayward is opting out. 100%. There is almost no reason he would opt in, unless he and the Jazz have some sort pre-arranged deal worked out.

What is undecided is how serious he is about leaving Utah. Many are reporting that he's more serious about it than he has been at any point previously. Others have that he's likely stay.

What I have been told is that Utah is still the favorite, but he's going to listen to others. And of those others, Boston is at the top of the list. I'm just not sure they are actually ahead of Utah.

I feel like guys in this spot are pretty big flight risks. If they are listening that means they are looking for a better spot. Ultimately, unless the incumbent team has some sort of move, a win now trade or maybe acquiescing to money they didn't want to offer, their pitch is pretty clear. More of the same.

It's about another team making a compelling enough offer.

[FlatearthZorro]

To me it's interesting how are the Jazz looking to win if their GM is saying it out loud that he wont pay their starting PG? Also they have no cap and will have to resign Hood soon I don't see how the Jazz have a brighter future than us when we beat them 3 of 4 times with Hayward on their team. Imagine us with him on our side. That's our pitch.