Mavericks 2017 Draft #9

[Pointguard01]

I'm actually seeing a possibility of you guys missing out on one of the PGs unfortunately. With that said Pistons have had a lot of picks in that 7-9 area and someone always drops. But let's say the draft goes like this

Fultz- Celtics
Ball- Lakers
Jackson- Philly
Tatum- Suns
Fox- Kings
DSJ- Magic ( heard they are high on him)
Isaac- Wolves
Ntilikina- Knicks ( just seems to be strong interest)

That leaves Monk, Markanen, Collins as most probable choices. Who do you think Cuban takes out of that group? Personally I really like Markanen for you guys. Just a absolute sniper as a 7 footer. And seems like a good fit next to Noel. If I'm not mistaken he's legit the best 3 point shooting 7 footer in NCAA history.

Monk is really the lynchpin of the top 10, that said, if he's left at 9 i take him, i think he's a better jason terry so if im getting a borderline all star at 9 i take it no doubt. There's no guarantee any of these guys are going to be stars

The wild cards are Philly, Kings and most of all Wolves and Knicks..Knicks are known to blow it (minus Porzi of course). So lets hope they do so.. Wolves don't need a PG with Dunn ready to take over.

And if Monk is going to be better than JET...totally OK with him at #9.

Sacramento isn't a wild card. Fultz + Ball are going 1-2, and if the expected 3-4 picks are Tatum + Jackson, then I cannot imagine Sacramento going with any other player than Fox. And they rightfully shouldn't consider anyone else.

I really see Orlando and Minny at the turning point. Both could go with scoring (Smith), Monk (shooting), potential (Issac) or versatility (Ntilikina). I don't think any are off the table for these teams. I would be curious what their fan base is saying, but I'm sure the front office could see a fit for all. New York could be thrown in there, but they will obviously have less option at #8.

As it's been said, Monk is the guy we need Orlando, Minny or New York to love and take, so someone falls to us. There is also the chance that another team falls in love with Monk and moves up. I could see Minnesota giving up #7 for a veteran.

[Mr B]

I honestly think there is a chance that Minnesota shocks everyone and picks Markkanen. They would be a matchup nightmare with Markkanen and Towns.

[Darren]

1.Trade #9 and future 1st to move up and select DeAaron Fox.
2.Jonathan Isaac (his talent is hard to pass up on even if we need PG the most)
3.Dennis Smith Jr. (his injury history is a concern) / Frank Ntilikina (his physical tools and potential is hard to pass up on)
4.Trade for proven young veteran(s) / Draft Malik Monk (but please scout a a little on his basketball IQ and work ethics. I consider him underachieving despite solid skillsets and athleticism.) and trade Seth Curry
5.Trade down for multiple picks (I am not a fan of this option unless we dumb all unwanted contracts)

[Texas Chuck]

I honestly think there is a chance that Minnesota shocks everyone and picks Markkanen. They would be a matchup nightmare with Markkanen and Towns.

this would be great for us. But surely if he's their guy they would try and trade back and pick up value while still getting him?

[dirkforpres]

I honestly think there is a chance that Minnesota shocks everyone and picks Markkanen. They would be a matchup nightmare with Markkanen and Towns.

I think Monk is more likely to Minnesota than Markkanen. If Markkanen really is their guy though, I would hope Dallas could work out a pick swap that way we would both end up with the guy we want (Smith or Isaac)

[Mr B]

I definitely think if there is a team we could trade up with it would be Minnesota. Do any of you know if they are looking to dump any salaries? The Mavs would obviously have to give something up in order to move up but I highly doubt it will be a future pick. They would like have to take on a bad contract in order to move up.

[Mr B]

1.Trade #9 and future 1st to move up and select DeAaron Fox.

I just don't see that happening at all. Everything I've heard says they have zero interest in trading future picks. Once Dirk is retired (maybe after this coming season) I think they go in full tank mode. They are going to need all their future 1st round picks.

[k-lynch201]

1.Trade #9 and future 1st to move up and select DeAaron Fox.

I just don't see that happening at all. Everything I've heard says they have zero interest in trading future picks. Once Dirk is retired (maybe after this coming season) I think they go in full tank mode. They are going to need all their future 1st round picks.

Have to agree, the only guy worth giving up 1st rounders for is Fultz who is the top pick. And that is just not going to happen. Adding 2 1st's on top of the 9th pick this year probably wouldn't be enough.

Have to hope for a little luck and a PG slides to us, but I see the PG's going quick early, unfortunately. The Frenchman being the only one who may slide to us due to no one taking the risk on him.

[Mr B]

1.Trade #9 and future 1st to move up and select DeAaron Fox.

I just don't see that happening at all. Everything I've heard says they have zero interest in trading future picks. Once Dirk is retired (maybe after this coming season) I think they go in full tank mode. They are going to need all their future 1st round picks.

Have to agree, the only guy worth giving up 1st rounders for is Fultz who is the top pick. And that is just not going to happen. Adding 2 1st's on top of the 9th pick this year probably wouldn't be enough.

Have to hope for a little luck and a PG slides to us, but I see the PG's going quick early, unfortunately. The Frenchman being the only one who may slide to us due to no one taking the risk on him.

Yea I think there will be a run on PG's leading up to the 8th pick. I actually think the Knicks will take Ntilikina. Monk will slide to the Mavs and they will have to decide between him and Mitchell if they want a guard. Although if that happens Isaac could slide to 9 and he would likely be their pick.

[dirkforpres]

I just don't see that happening at all. Everything I've heard says they have zero interest in trading future picks. Once Dirk is retired (maybe after this coming season) I think they go in full tank mode. They are going to need all their future 1st round picks.

Have to agree, the only guy worth giving up 1st rounders for is Fultz who is the top pick. And that is just not going to happen. Adding 2 1st's on top of the 9th pick this year probably wouldn't be enough.

Have to hope for a little luck and a PG slides to us, but I see the PG's going quick early, unfortunately. The Frenchman being the only one who may slide to us due to no one taking the risk on him.

Yea I think there will be a run on PG's leading up to the 8th pick. I actually think the Knicks will take Ntilikina. Monk will slide to the Mavs and they will have to decide between him and Mitchell if they want a guard. Although if that happens Isaac could slide to 9 and he would likely be their pick.

It sounds like Minnesota has their guy in Isaac. It will for sure be either him or Monk going there so I think Dallas will end up with whoever is left between the 2 of them. Smith goes to Orlando and Ntilikina to the Knicks

[wolves_89]

I definitely think if there is a team we could trade up with it would be Minnesota. Do any of you know if they are looking to dump any salaries? The Mavs would obviously have to give something up in order to move up but I highly doubt it will be a future pick. They would like have to take on a bad contract in order to move up.

Once Pek is medically retired the Wolves won't have any bad contracts. Dallas and Minnesota are poor trade partners since the Mavs have few if any assets that would be of interest to the Wolves. Barnes and Matthews are the only players that would make even a little sense and I don't see Minnesota wanting to take either due to the size/length of their contracts.

[Mr B]

Have to agree, the only guy worth giving up 1st rounders for is Fultz who is the top pick. And that is just not going to happen. Adding 2 1st's on top of the 9th pick this year probably wouldn't be enough.

Have to hope for a little luck and a PG slides to us, but I see the PG's going quick early, unfortunately. The Frenchman being the only one who may slide to us due to no one taking the risk on him.

Yea I think there will be a run on PG's leading up to the 8th pick. I actually think the Knicks will take Ntilikina. Monk will slide to the Mavs and they will have to decide between him and Mitchell if they want a guard. Although if that happens Isaac could slide to 9 and he would likely be their pick.

It sounds like Minnesota has their guy in Isaac. It will for sure be either him or Monk going there so I think Dallas will end up with whoever is left between the 2 of them. Smith goes to Orlando and Ntilikina to the Knicks

That would be worst case scenario if you ask me. The last couple days I've been seeing Collins name a lot and I have a feeling that if that scenario plays out Collins might be the pick.

[Mr B]

I definitely think if there is a team we could trade up with it would be Minnesota. Do any of you know if they are looking to dump any salaries? The Mavs would obviously have to give something up in order to move up but I highly doubt it will be a future pick. They would like have to take on a bad contract in order to move up.

Once Pek is medically retired the Wolves won't have any bad contracts. Dallas and Minnesota are poor trade partners since the Mavs have few if any assets that would be of interest to the Wolves. Barnes and Matthews are the only players that would make even a little sense and I don't see Minnesota wanting to take either due to the size/length of their contracts.

Well I guess that clears things up a little. Are the Wolves really interested in trading Rubio from what you're hearing? If so what would be their asking price?

[wolves_89]

I definitely think if there is a team we could trade up with it would be Minnesota. Do any of you know if they are looking to dump any salaries? The Mavs would obviously have to give something up in order to move up but I highly doubt it will be a future pick. They would like have to take on a bad contract in order to move up.

Once Pek is medically retired the Wolves won't have any bad contracts. Dallas and Minnesota are poor trade partners since the Mavs have few if any assets that would be of interest to the Wolves. Barnes and Matthews are the only players that would make even a little sense and I don't see Minnesota wanting to take either due to the size/length of their contracts.

Well I guess that clears things up a little. Are the Wolves really interested in trading Rubio from what you're hearing? If so what would be their asking price?

I think the Rubio trade rumors are moderately overblown. I believe Thibs would move Rubio in the right deal, but I think finding that deal is hard since Minnesota isn't going to just give him away. At the moment the Wolves don't have a replacement starting PG, so until I hear rumors of a Thibs signing a FA point guard (seems highly unlikely based on expected asking prices, and no Rose is not an option) or trading for vet capable of being a good starter I don't see Rubio going anywhere.

[dirkforpres]

Yea I think there will be a run on PG's leading up to the 8th pick. I actually think the Knicks will take Ntilikina. Monk will slide to the Mavs and they will have to decide between him and Mitchell if they want a guard. Although if that happens Isaac could slide to 9 and he would likely be their pick.

It sounds like Minnesota has their guy in Isaac. It will for sure be either him or Monk going there so I think Dallas will end up with whoever is left between the 2 of them. Smith goes to Orlando and Ntilikina to the Knicks

That would be worst case scenario if you ask me. The last couple days I've been seeing Collins name a lot and I have a feeling that if that scenario plays out Collins might be the pick.

I highly doubt it. We don't need a center unless they just don't want Noel back, but all reports are that Dallas is very intent on bringing him back so Collins makes very little sense. It'll be Markkanen or Monk if that scenario plays out. Preferably Monk and hopefully Carlisle can make him into the new Chauncey Billups

[Mr B]

It sounds like Minnesota has their guy in Isaac. It will for sure be either him or Monk going there so I think Dallas will end up with whoever is left between the 2 of them. Smith goes to Orlando and Ntilikina to the Knicks

That would be worst case scenario if you ask me. The last couple days I've been seeing Collins name a lot and I have a feeling that if that scenario plays out Collins might be the pick.

I highly doubt it. We don't need a center unless they just don't want Noel back, but all reports are that Dallas is very intent on bringing him back so Collins makes very little sense. It'll be Markkanen or Monk if that scenario plays out. Preferably Monk and hopefully Carlisle can make him into the new Chauncey Billups

Noel is definitely being resigned. Due to his size Monk long term future is likely in a role similar to Jet Terry. He's not a PG and too small to be a starting SG. He could be instant offense off the bench as a 6th man though. So if the team is drafting a backup would a big make more sense than a guard? If Collins develops into a starting caliber center the Mavs would have a very valuable trade chip. Also with Noel's health history it won't be a bad idea to have a quality backup.

[dirkforpres]

That would be worst case scenario if you ask me. The last couple days I've been seeing Collins name a lot and I have a feeling that if that scenario plays out Collins might be the pick.

I highly doubt it. We don't need a center unless they just don't want Noel back, but all reports are that Dallas is very intent on bringing him back so Collins makes very little sense. It'll be Markkanen or Monk if that scenario plays out. Preferably Monk and hopefully Carlisle can make him into the new Chauncey Billups

Noel is definitely being resigned. Due to his size Monk long term future is likely in a role similar to Jet Terry. He's not a PG and too small to be a starting SG. He could be instant offense off the bench as a 6th man though. So if the team is drafting a backup would a big make more sense than a guard? If Collins develops into a starting caliber center the Mavs would have a very valuable trade chip. Also with Noel's health history it won't be a bad idea to have a quality backup.

Who knows, Collins may do well in the NBA, I don't see him being any more valuable than an Alex Len or a Mason Plumlee though. Solid players, but not difference makers. Our team needs a guard more than anything and without a guarantee we sign a Holiday, Lowry, Hill type PG... I just don't see any way we don't select one of the 5 PGs or Monk... Unless Isaac is still available somehow.

We picked a great year to be in the top 10, but Dallas needs to select a guard if they want to give Dirk a chance at a successful last year ala playoffs

[The Sparest]

That would be worst case scenario if you ask me. The last couple days I've been seeing Collins name a lot and I have a feeling that if that scenario plays out Collins might be the pick.

I highly doubt it. We don't need a center unless they just don't want Noel back, but all reports are that Dallas is very intent on bringing him back so Collins makes very little sense. It'll be Markkanen or Monk if that scenario plays out. Preferably Monk and hopefully Carlisle can make him into the new Chauncey Billups

Noel is definitely being resigned. Due to his size Monk long term future is likely in a role similar to Jet Terry. He's not a PG and too small to be a starting SG. He could be instant offense off the bench as a 6th man though. So if the team is drafting a backup would a big make more sense than a guard? If Collins develops into a starting caliber center the Mavs would have a very valuable trade chip. Also with Noel's health history it won't be a bad idea to have a quality backup.

I think Noel and Collins could play well together, so I don't see it as an either/or situation. Collins shooting offsets Noel's weakness, and he can defend centers which frees up Noel to roam on defense.

Ntilikina is still my top choice, but Collins is moving into the second spot for me.

[Mr B]

I highly doubt it. We don't need a center unless they just don't want Noel back, but all reports are that Dallas is very intent on bringing him back so Collins makes very little sense. It'll be Markkanen or Monk if that scenario plays out. Preferably Monk and hopefully Carlisle can make him into the new Chauncey Billups

Noel is definitely being resigned. Due to his size Monk long term future is likely in a role similar to Jet Terry. He's not a PG and too small to be a starting SG. He could be instant offense off the bench as a 6th man though. So if the team is drafting a backup would a big make more sense than a guard? If Collins develops into a starting caliber center the Mavs would have a very valuable trade chip. Also with Noel's health history it won't be a bad idea to have a quality backup.

I think Noel and Collins could play well together, so I don't see it as an either/or situation. Collins shooting offsets Noel's weakness, and he can defend centers which frees up Noel to roam on defense.

Ntilikina is still my top choice, but Collins is moving into the second spot for me.

Yea that's what I'm thinking. Collins ability/potential on offense actually meshes well with Noel's skills. Collins would also help the Mavs rebounding numbers. Like you said PG is still the #1 priority (DSJ is still my top choice and then Ntilikina) however if all of the top PG's are gone I think I would rather they pick a big. Either way they are going to end up with a really good player.

[bobsquad]

Has anyone watched Collins? He has the mobility and range to be a full time 4, and he's a legit 7 footer. He's nothing close to Alex Len. Meyers Leonard is a better comparison, but rawer/with more upside.